Lou Gehrig RETIRADO Card:

[samosa4u]

Hello my grumpy friends! :)

I don't collect baseball, but I do enjoy checking them out online from time-to-time. Now I just came across this card on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Venezuela-Topps-Lou-Gehrig-RETIRADO-141-PSA-7-NRMT-PWCC/401398042764?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.M BE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3Da1bb0cd5c9e64b7 c8933b32a215cff62%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D 12%26sd%3D142496376187&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850

I don't know Spanish, but this card has the word "retirado" on the front. Doesn't that mean retired? :eek: Gehrig had been dead for 26 years when this card was manufactured, and they wrote retired on it? This is pretty insulting if you ask me - what do you guys think? Oh, and I'm also surprised how high the price is because I wouldn't spend $5 on it.

[ullmandds]

its a tough card...maybe it should have said "expirado?"

[Snapolit1]

They produced a series of cards that year, and there was a set of retired players. Gehrig and others. Why is this insulting or anything else? Don't see the point.

This is a quite rare card and I suspect a lot of people would be interested adding to their collection the highest graded PASTEBOARD EXTANT.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

This is gonna go crazy in the last few minutes, nice job outing it, is the OP actually the consignor? lol.

[autograf]

To find any of those 50 retirado cards in even a 3-4-5 is huge but a 7! Wow. Love the subset of that years Venezuela cards......I too wondered if the OP was the consignor. Stranger things have happened.

[Snapolit1]

I was going to bid on this highest in existence Gehrig one of a kind pasteboard, but now see that one of the leading bidders has 64.9% of his recent bids in other PWCC auctions. That's just too high. Everyone should steer clear.

[samosa4u]

I don't own a single baseball card. I collected hockey all my life and now I am starting to go after soccer, boxing and non-sports. I really love the old film cards.

[aconte]

I might have to set a snipe on that bad boy!

[bnorth]

WOW a 7 is crazy in that set. I had a Joe DiMaggio 3 for a while I traded to a fellow forum member. To me they are very ugly cards in hand.

[Snapolit1]

I wouldn't argue they are beautiful cards, but the funky coloring is certainly odd and very unique.

[Forever Young]

My Type 1 original photo example.

Interesting how our tastes differ. I love these cards in hand. I have a gehrig and a Ruth to go with my photos.

[aloondilana]

Thank you for bringing this card to my attention.
Maybe the OP is the consignor, his tactics worked I guess, cause I just smacked this card good.

[Snapolit1]

Thank you for bringing this card to my attention.
Maybe the OP is the consignor, his tactics worked I guess, cause I just smacked this card good.

Over $2,200. I'm relieved no one bids on PWCC auctions anymore.

[Forever Young]

Yikes.. if one was really in it to win it, why bid now? Snipe is the way to go. Craziness

[bn2cardz]

My Type 1 original photo example.

Interesting how our tastes differ. I love these cards in hand. I have a gehrig and a Ruth to go with my photos.

I have the Cochrane original image for the set.


http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/67/67-153Fr.jpghttps://farm5.staticflickr.com/4358/36057124400_097e81acef_b.jpg

[Forever Young]

I have the Cochrane original image for the set.



Love it! I got the Ruth to go with Lou.

[Sean]

Over $2,200. I'm relieved no one bids on PWCC auctions anymore.

Peter said it just yesterday: stuff trumps all.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Love it! I got the Ruth to go with Lou.

freaky crop job on Babe's head!

[nsaddict]

The OP doesn't even collect baseball. Trying to figure out why he posted this in the first place?

[JollyElm]

Love it! I got the Ruth to go with Lou.

It looks like there's a dark outline subtly added to your Ruth shot. It is especially visible around his legs/butt. Not sure if it affects anything, and I'm sure you're already aware of it, but I'd thought I would point it out anyway.

[Forever Young]

It looks like there's a dark outline subtly added to your Ruth shot. It is especially visible around his legs/butt. Not sure if it affects anything, and I'm sure you're already aware of it, but I'd thought I would point it out anyway.

Ha! Yes..These are original editorial marks that I left on. Thank you for pointing them out:)

[Sean]

The OP doesn't even collect baseball. Trying to figure out why he posted this in the first place?

I think that he didn't know what it was, and was curious about it.

[samosa4u]

The OP doesn't even collect baseball. Trying to figure out why he posted this in the first place?

So in order to discuss baseball cards you have to collect them? :) I did own some in the past, including a few Mantles, but sold them. I don't collect them anymore, but I still appreciate them.

Now are there any Spanish folks on here? Don't you think it would have made more sense to put "difunto" on the Gehrig card instead?

[aljurgela]

As a primary collector of Latin card and fluent Spanish speaker, the title on the cards is not offensive at all. It just means that they were retired. As opposed to active players. That's all. Some living. Some not.

[Snapolit1]

As a primary collector of Latin card and fluent Spanish speaker, the title on the cards is not offensive at all. It just means that they were retired. As opposed to active players. That's all. Some living. Some not.

Went for $2313. Really really cool card, and the condition is unreal. I was in the bidding until pretty late, but at the end of the day just couldn't justify that lofty price tag for a card that came out 26 years after he died.

[steve B]

Went for $2313. Really really cool card, and the condition is unreal. I was in the bidding until pretty late, but at the end of the day just couldn't justify that lofty price tag for a card that came out 26 years after he died.

LOL

"The high bidders percentage is too high stay away"

"I was in it right up to the end"


Almost the oldest auction trick there is. And it hardly ever works.

[samosa4u]

Went for $2313. Really really cool card, and the condition is unreal. I was in the bidding until pretty late, but at the end of the day just couldn't justify that lofty price tag for a card that came out 26 years after he died.

It went for $3700, dude! :eek::confused: Did this thread play a role in that? Hmmm ... I doubt it, because if it did, then I will be starting a new one soon (when I want to sell my vintage creased up hockey cards). :)

[Snapolit1]

LOL

"The high bidders percentage is too high stay away"

"I was in it right up to the end"


Almost the oldest auction trick there is. And it hardly ever works.

That was my attempt at board satire my friend. I've made crystal clear for years that I bid in PWCC auctions. I think lots of the gripes about them are way overblown. Nevermind redundant. Crooks everywhere.

[Snapolit1]

It went for $3700, dude! :eek::confused: Did this thread play a role in that? Hmmm ... I doubt it, because if it did, then I will be starting a new one soon (when I want to sell my vintage creased up hockey cards). :)

You are correct. Guess my phone didn't update eBay this am.

[steve B]

That was my attempt at board satire my friend. I've made crystal clear for years that I bid in PWCC auctions. I think lots of the gripes about them are way overblown. Nevermind redundant. Crooks everywhere.

Ah. I totally missed the gag. Sorry.

[Snapolit1]

If I could get identifying information from most of the leading AHs about who was bidding in their auctions and how often, and how often bidders retracted bids and just refused to pay, I'm sure I'd have a new hobby tomorrow. As pointed out before, some of these places explicitly reserve the right to bid on their own items. Bidding against the place running the auction. Now that's a kick.