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Jobu
09-13-2017, 12:12 PM
I have never owned one of these, but I would like to see what you have for the 4 toughest factory-issued T206 backs.

Thanks!

Sean
09-13-2017, 12:38 PM
Here you go Bryan. By the way, this is an old scan. The Broadleaf 460 is now in a PSA holder. I'm sure that you'll see the pattern:

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sb1
09-13-2017, 12:49 PM
pair of Uzits with the two different shades of blue and a decent BL 460

Sean
09-13-2017, 02:00 PM
That is actually a great Broadleaf 460. :)

Rhotchkiss
09-13-2017, 02:41 PM
Amazing Broadleaf 460. In all sincerity, I would love the opportunity to trade for it, or to buy ("paying strong" for BL 460). Here is my contribution -- a Drum, Brown old Mill, Brown Lenox, Black Lenox, Uzit and a BL 350. No love for the Carolina Brights or Red Hindu??!!

sb1
09-13-2017, 02:42 PM
I had 4-5 at one time, kept this one raw, thinking it was the nicest one. Had one other I sent in and got a 60, so still sure this was the nicer, got rid of the 60 and then got this one graded a year or so later. Sometimes you lose :(

MVSNYC
09-13-2017, 02:57 PM
Great stuff, Guys.

Between Sean's cards, and Rhotch's, I've owned several of those exact cards.

This Mullin Uzit, I own, has the darkest ink I've ever seen on a Uzit.

The BL460 is on eBay now through Probstein.

sb1
09-13-2017, 03:13 PM
Wonder if the Murphy BL 460 was once with the Reb Cobb BL460, as they both have the corners torn off. They were not in the same lot when I bought it many years ago, but may have been in the same collection at one time.

bbcard1
09-13-2017, 03:26 PM
And if anybody has a low grade Drum Davidson, he's still looking for company.

Sean
09-13-2017, 03:34 PM
Between Sean's cards, and Rhotch's, I've owned several of those exact cards.



That's right, I bought the Street/ Drum from Mike. It goes really well with the Street/ BL460. :)

DerekMichael
09-13-2017, 03:52 PM
Here are mine: http://t206society.com/product/t206-society-collection/

It took something like eight years to get B. OM, B. Lenox, BL 460, Drum and Uzit in the same place at the same time, at least for me. I was not able to find elite HOF for any of these but to be honest I just feel grateful to have finally found one of each.

Great thread. Lots of amazing material here. Hopefully it becomes packed with great examples. I am excited to see some more amazing examples. Thank you very much for sharing.

Derek

RedsFan1941
09-13-2017, 04:01 PM
always so cool to hear about cards people used to own. such a small world.

Sean
09-13-2017, 04:05 PM
Here are mine: http://t206society.com/product/t206-society-collection/

It took something like eight years to get B. OM, B. Lenox, BL 460, Drum and Uzit in the same place at the same time, at least for me. I was not able to find elite HOF for any of these but to be honest I just feel grateful to have finally found one of each.

Great thread. Lots of amazing material here. Hopefully it becomes packed with great examples. I am excited to see some more amazing examples. Thank you very much for sharing.

Derek
Derek, great Brown Old Mill. I don't recall seeing it before. Where did you get it?

JohnP0621
09-13-2017, 05:29 PM
Here are mine

JohnP0621
09-13-2017, 05:30 PM
Here are backs. I can't seem to load them on the same page

Rhotchkiss
09-13-2017, 06:03 PM
Derek, that is one pretty Evers BL 460 ;)

Pat R
09-13-2017, 06:27 PM
Here are backs. I can't seem to load them on the same page

Here ya go John, nice cards.

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JohnP0621
09-13-2017, 06:41 PM
Thanks Pat R

brass_rat
09-13-2017, 07:57 PM
WaJo

tedzan
09-13-2017, 08:10 PM
Here are some of my UZIT, DRUM, LENOX, red HINDU cards. Included, are front/back combos of two very tough T206's
whose backs are not normally considered that "tough"......AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 and SOVEREIGN 460.


This one is unique

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/McGrawGloveUZITxSGC30x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/McGrawGloveUZITxb.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T206ElberfeldDRUM.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T206DRUMx50bx.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T206NeedhamLENOXx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T206xLENOXx37_1.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseRedHINDUx25.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/rh.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/AB460CobbBat25xx.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/AB460CobbBat25x.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/1911SovereignCobbSGCx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/1911SovereignCobbSGCx50b.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/broadleaf460back.jpg ...... and, this card I acquired many years ago, but I cannot find its front image.
I do not have this card anymore. Anyway, since it's a nice example of a BL 460, I thought it's worth displaying its back.



So sorry......no brown LENOX.


TED Z
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slipk1068
09-13-2017, 08:21 PM
Only scan I currently have; sorry for the Piedmont.

DerekMichael
09-13-2017, 08:40 PM
That Walter Johnson Drum made my heart skip a beat. That Crawford Uzit is gorgeous as well. Wow!

I love these threads. They never get old. Thanks for sharing guys.

charlietheexterminator
09-14-2017, 12:43 AM
Here are six of my seven Drums that I have pics of in this phone. None are for sale, as I have a hard time dealing with sellers remorse.
I use to own the Ty Cobb, bat off, Brown Lenox. Sold it about ten years, I'm still struggling with it, still regret selling it. I sold Wagner #17 about forty years, still not over it.

hshrimps
09-14-2017, 11:55 AM
What about Brown Old Mill and Ty Cobb backs???

iowadoc77
09-14-2017, 12:00 PM
What about Brown Old Mill and Ty Cobb backs???

Because most of us have plenty of those laying around...:D

Sean
09-14-2017, 02:33 PM
What about Brown Old Mill and Ty Cobb backs???
I think that Bryan excluded Brown Old Mills because they are scrap cards that were never distributed in packs of cigarettes, and Cobb backs because he (and many others) consider it a separate issue, not a part of the T206 set.

Sean
09-14-2017, 02:34 PM
Because most of us have plenty of those laying around...:D

And as for you, Eric, go forth and do not return without an Uzit. :D

Blunder19
09-14-2017, 03:07 PM
My brown old mill.. The Mullaney / Young Ghost.. underneath all of those prints is the Brown Old Mill. :)

https://i.imgur.com/SVyN85t.jpg

charlietheexterminator
09-14-2017, 03:39 PM
My brown old mill.. The Mullaney / Young Ghost.. underneath all of those prints is the Brown Old Mill. :)

https://i.imgur.com/SVyN85t.jpg


Fantastic card Jamie. I enjoy seeing this so much, that I have my own pic of it, lol

Sean
09-14-2017, 05:04 PM
Hey Jaime, I always wondered who got Leon's Mullaney. Nice going. I'm glad it stayed with a board member. :)

Blunder19
09-14-2017, 06:06 PM
Thanks Sean... i always loved that card.. was happy to add it to my collection..

iowadoc77
09-14-2017, 07:55 PM
And as for you, Eric, go forth and do not return without an Uzit. :D

Yes sir

brass_rat
09-14-2017, 08:21 PM
That Walter Johnson Drum made my heart skip a beat.

Thanks! I'm glad to know others enjoy seeing it. :D

Thanks to everybody for sharing -- I love these threads, too. Nice start, Bryan.

hshrimps
09-14-2017, 10:15 PM
I think that Bryan excluded Brown Old Mills because they are scrap cards that were never distributed in packs of cigarettes, and Cobb backs because he (and many others) consider it a separate issue, not a part of the T206 set.

If Brown OM is scrap, what about Brown Lenox?

Jobu
09-14-2017, 10:28 PM
Thanks for all of the great posts so far!

To Mike (post 7) --- good luck with the sale of your BL 460! You didn't post a link, so I will:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=244708

I was looking for the overall 4 toughest non-scrap backs. I drew the line at 4 because overall Red Hindu doesn't match the top 4 --- some Red Hindu combos are really tough, but if all you want is any Red Hindu they don't rank with these 4. I don't know enough about the Cobb back to have a defensible opinion there, but I also wanted to see some cards get posted!

Brown Lenox were factory cut and will receive numerical grades unless they were altered. 100% of the Brown Old Mills are printer's scrap and will always receive an Authentic grade.

Here are two good articles about T206 back scarcity that owe much to a few of our esteemed board members:

https://www.psacard.com/Articles/ArticleView/8498/collecting-researching-pricing-enjoying-monster-analysis-baseball-card-set-part-one-rarity-16-different-backs

https://www.psacard.com/Articles/ArticleView/8593/collecting-researching-pricing-enjoying-monster-analysis-t206-baseball-card-set-part-two-rarity-all-back-variations

Keep the scans comin!

philliesphan
09-15-2017, 03:48 AM
http://net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=287811&stc=1&d=1505468880
http://net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=287812&stc=1&d=1505468880

MVSNYC
09-18-2017, 12:23 PM
Thanks for all of the great posts so far!

To Mike (post 7) --- good luck with the sale of your BL 460! You didn't post a link, so I will:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=244708



Thanks Bryan! The auctions (including the BL460) end tonight.

mrvster
09-19-2017, 09:26 PM
true cardboard porn


GREAT THREAD!

David R
09-24-2017, 09:57 PM
With my other HOF backs minus a blank back Beckley that I haven't added to grid yet

Sean
09-24-2017, 11:26 PM
Great concept David. :)

David R
09-24-2017, 11:39 PM
Thanks Sean😊

Rhotchkiss
09-25-2017, 03:50 PM
David, that is an awesome run. Coincidently, I am kinda working on something similar - one of each back, preferably in mid grades/condition with a HOF front (brown OM and SL aside), however, I may settle on lower grade commons for my drum, brown Lenox and BL 460. I will post my run at some point, but including the brown OM and Lenox, but excluding T213/T215. I am only a BL 460 away from a complete set/run. This and player back runs = lots of time, effort and $$$. But, alas, it yields a great picture like the one David posted and luckily we have a place like net54 where our craziness is (sometimes) appreciated by others.

David R
09-29-2017, 02:11 AM
David, that is an awesome run. Coincidently, I am kinda working on something similar - one of each back, preferably in mid grades/condition with a HOF front (brown OM and SL aside), however, I may settle on lower grade commons for my drum, brown Lenox and BL 460. I will post my run at some point, but including the brown OM and Lenox, but excluding T213/T215. I am only a BL 460 away from a complete set/run. This and player back runs = lots of time, effort and $$$. But, alas, it yields a great picture like the one David posted and luckily we have a place like net54 where our craziness is (sometimes) appreciated by others.

Good luck and have fun with it. I put a lot of time in trying to find all those with a HOF on the front (I recently got a blank back that will ruin the symmetry of the grid so I haven't included it) but the hunt was the most fun. Now that I am done I do miss the journey.

Sean
09-29-2017, 11:44 AM
You will find something new to collect; we all do. :D Maybe a back run or a team subset.

So who is the player on the Blank back?

David R
09-30-2017, 12:58 AM
You will find something new to collect; we all do. :D Maybe a back run or a team subset.

So who is the player on the Blank back?

Blank back is Jake Beckley, which luckily I didn't have on any of the other backs. The more backs I collected the harder it became to add a new one without repeating one of the HOFs on the front. I also wanted to make sure I had all four Cobbs, the three Youngs, both Johnsons and all three Matthewsons included in the run which resulted in quite a bit of shuffling along the way.

Sean
09-30-2017, 04:23 AM
Blank back is Jake Beckley, which luckily I didn't have on any of the other backs. The more backs I collected the harder it became to add a new one without repeating one of the HOFs on the front. I also wanted to make sure I had all four Cobbs, the three Youngs, both Johnsons and all three Matthewsons included in the run which resulted in quite a bit of shuffling along the way.

I'll bet that it did. I remember in 2004 when I got my first Uzit. Three months later I got my first (only) Brown Lenox. I couldn't get rid of either one, so I kept them both. Five years later I started a back run that's become my favorite subset.