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T_Hamilton
08-18-2017, 10:27 AM
After having the auction preview pushed to today, Friday, August 18th, I just saw this message on their website: Masterpieces and Uncommon Commons LXXII will preview Monday, August 21, 2017 and open for bidding Tuesday, August 22, 2017. The auction closes on Thursday, September 7, 2017.

Anyone know what is going on?

packs
08-18-2017, 10:37 AM
They're adjusting for the eclipse.

RedsFan1941
08-18-2017, 11:08 AM
it seems like the the last year or so, a few of the smaller boutique auction houses are unclear about when their next auction is, or a previously announced date gets pushed back. lack of consignments maybe?

pawpawdiv9
08-18-2017, 11:48 AM
They're still sorting thru all my 1988 Donruss cards

chiprop
08-18-2017, 01:59 PM
Just spoke to Bill. Auction preview will be available for viewing next week.

Peter_Spaeth
08-18-2017, 02:03 PM
Maybe he has another Koufax PSA 8 and is debating whether to still call it a $200K card.

"For the discerning collector or the profit-driven investor, this card should be an automatic. The Koufax rookie card’s climb has been as remarkable as Koufax pitching at Dodger Stadium on a hot summer day. We expect the day to come very soon, when Koufax rookies at PSA 8 will be selling well in excess of $200,000 and perhaps as $250,000. If you’ve ever contemplated a Clemente rookie, we strongly encourage you investigate this card."

BeanTown
08-18-2017, 02:07 PM
Maybe they took in some late additions which were very nice, and they are making last minute changes.

rdixon1208
08-18-2017, 02:28 PM
I think the last Goodwin auction was pushed back several times too. Weird

lentel
08-18-2017, 04:42 PM
They're adjusting for the eclipse.

lol love it

mechanicalman
08-18-2017, 08:11 PM
Maybe he has another Koufax PSA 8 and is debating whether to still call it a $200K card.

"For the discerning collector or the profit-driven investor, this card should be an automatic. The Koufax rookie card’s climb has been as remarkable as Koufax pitching at Dodger Stadium on a hot summer day. We expect the day to come very soon, when Koufax rookies at PSA 8 will be selling well in excess of $200,000 and perhaps as $250,000. If you’ve ever contemplated a Clemente rookie, we strongly encourage you investigate this card."

Peter, this wasn't edited? This was a direct quote? This literally can't be accurate. There is no fiber in my being that recognizes this as a rational statement. I'm not laughing out loud, but I'm laughing internally at the absurdity of this quote. :D

Mdmtx
08-18-2017, 08:18 PM
Maybe he has another Koufax PSA 8 and is debating whether to still call it a $200K card.

"For the discerning collector or the profit-driven investor, this card should be an automatic. The Koufax rookie card’s climb has been as remarkable as Koufax pitching at Dodger Stadium on a hot summer day. We expect the day to come very soon, when Koufax rookies at PSA 8 will be selling well in excess of $200,000 and perhaps as $250,000. If you’ve ever contemplated a Clemente rookie, we strongly encourage you investigate this card."

I feel a little frustrated at comments like this. The world is all in favor of the rich guy. Since I can't afford these high dollar cards, I don't read these fabulous portfolio suggestions. The little guy never gets a chance. :D

Peter_Spaeth
08-18-2017, 09:04 PM
Peter, this wasn't edited? This was a direct quote? This literally can't be accurate. There is no fiber in my being that recognizes this as a rational statement. I'm not laughing out loud, but I'm laughing internally at the absurdity of this quote. :D

Right off the auction. Mid 2016 peak of manipulation mAnia.

Den*nis O*Brien
08-19-2017, 05:25 AM
I feel a little frustrated at comments like this. The world is all in favor of the rich guy. Since I can't afford these high dollar cards, I don't read these fabulous portfolio suggestions. The little guy never gets a chance. :D

My sentiments exactly !!

Sean
08-19-2017, 10:17 AM
After having the auction preview pushed to today, Friday, August 18th, I just saw this message on their website: Masterpieces and Uncommon Commons LXXII will preview Monday, August 21, 2017 and open for bidding Tuesday, August 22, 2017. The auction closes on Thursday, September 7, 2017.

Anyone know what is going on?

They've moved the auction back again. Now it will begin on Wednesday, August 23. This is the third different date that they've given.

T_Hamilton
08-21-2017, 08:51 AM
They've moved the auction back again. Now it will begin on Wednesday, August 23. This is the third different date that they've given.

I would be pretty peeved if I had consignments with them. Hopefully, cosigners are getting a different message than what is on the website.

Republicaninmass
08-21-2017, 09:12 AM
we strongly encourage you investigate this card."


Maybe the should have rephrased that?

packs
08-21-2017, 10:07 AM
Have Koufax's really gotten that inflated? I have a PSA 6 I paid $250 for over a decade ago. Am I sitting on money?

Update: it appears that I am.

Aquarian Sports Cards
08-21-2017, 10:39 AM
If you put it in the $500 thread it would double your money pretty quickly.

pkaufman
08-22-2017, 04:56 PM
I guess Bill Goodwin doesn't believe in previews because there is still nothing up and the auction supposedly starts tomorrow ????

glchen
08-22-2017, 04:58 PM
The home page lists the auction highlights. Some nice cards!

rats60
08-22-2017, 05:19 PM
The home page lists the auction highlights. Some nice cards!

Aren't those from the last auction?

Peter_Spaeth
08-22-2017, 05:22 PM
I don't understand the obsession with when Goodwin starts his auction.

nolemmings
08-22-2017, 05:46 PM
It's not an obsession, but it is more than mildly irritating when, for the second straight auction at least, Goodwin has given start dates, waited fairly close to their beginning, and then bumped them back multiple times for no good stated reason. Makes the auction look amateurish--they really should get their poop in a group.

Peter_Spaeth
08-22-2017, 05:51 PM
It's not an obsession, but it is more than mildly irritating when, for the second straight auction at least, Goodwin has given start dates, waited fairly close to their beginning, and then bumped them back multiple times for no good stated reason. Makes the auction look amateurish--they really should get their poop in a group.

So wait, what's the biggie?

nolemmings
08-22-2017, 05:52 PM
So why the hell give a starting date? Let it happens when it happens.

Peter_Spaeth
08-22-2017, 05:53 PM
So why the hell give a starting date? Let it happens when it happens.

Were you planning your social life around opening night? :D

nolemmings
08-22-2017, 05:55 PM
Actually, I'm hoping to not be in jail. About to go downtown Phoenix. Like. Now.

Peter_Spaeth
08-22-2017, 05:57 PM
Actually, I'm hoping to not be in jail. About to go downtown Phoenix. Like. Now.

Be careful out there.

glchen
08-23-2017, 01:27 AM
Aren't those from the last auction?

Nope, the current one.

rats60
08-23-2017, 04:45 AM
Nope, the current one.

Are you sure? They are now pulled from his site. The only thing on there now is his last auction.

chiprop
08-23-2017, 04:51 AM
Goodwin always has a dozen cards worthy of any collection. The highlights for his next auction are on the home page. Sick!

ullmandds
08-23-2017, 05:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daa9pZDxfIY

darwinbulldog
08-23-2017, 07:20 AM
Were you planning your social life around opening night? :D

Well Mister Smarty-Pants, it just so happens that my lady friend and I first met on 8/16, and I was going to pop the question to her on that day in code by making sure the lot number corresponding to the date I've reserved the wedding chapel for received the very first bid.

She's very perceptive.

Now I've cancelled the reservation. I guess it just wasn't meant to be.

Leon
08-23-2017, 07:26 AM
Goodwin always has a dozen cards worthy of any collection. The highlights for his next auction are on the home page. Sick!

I rarely bid in his auctions anymore..I don't care for the management of the parent company either..
I prefer to support our advertisers and there is plenty to keep me busy.

calvindog
08-23-2017, 07:42 AM
Based on the number of calls I get about Ken Goldin I would say Goodwin is the safer bet.

Leon
08-23-2017, 07:46 AM
Based on the number of calls I get about Ken Goldin I would say Goodwin is the safer bet.

What was the question, I think I missed it?

x2drich2000
08-23-2017, 07:50 AM
I rarely bid in his auctions anymore..I don't care for the management of the parent company either..
I prefer to support our advertisers and there is plenty to keep me busy.

+1

The last time I won a lot from them, 1 of the better cards was not included in the shipment. I notified them immediately of such. A few days later they said it would be sent out right away and nothing ever showed up. After several weeks of waiting, we agreed on a partial refund. Multiple times I was told the check would be sent but it never was. It took almost 2 months after the auction ended and I made payment for everything to be settled.

DJ

frankbmd
08-23-2017, 07:51 AM
Well Mister Smarty-Pants, it just so happens that my lady friend and I first met on 8/16, and I was going to pop the question to her on that day in code by making sure the lot number corresponding to the date I've reserved the wedding chapel for received the very first bid.

She's very perceptive.

Now I've cancelled the reservation. I guess it just wasn't meant to be.


If my wife (also very perceptive) sees your post, she will learn of my mistresses and my life will be ruined.

To Goodwin - "stall"

To Darwin - "please delete"

ValKehl
08-23-2017, 07:55 AM
Well Mister Smarty-Pants, it just so happens that my lady friend and I first met on 8/16, and I was going to pop the question to her on that day in code by making sure the lot number corresponding to the date I've reserved the wedding chapel for received the very first bid.

She's very perceptive.

Now I've cancelled the reservation. I guess it just wasn't meant to be.

Glenn, 8/16 is indeed a special date. My twin sons were born on 8/16/71. And, I got remarried on 8/16/97. On our 20th anniversary last week, #2 wifey and I went to the Wash. Nationals game - she's a keeper!

calvindog
08-23-2017, 07:56 AM
My twin sons were also born on 8-16!

packs
08-23-2017, 08:18 AM
Auction still isn't open I guess.

prestigecollectibles
08-23-2017, 09:03 AM
Back in October 2005 I called Bill because I was looking to buy a 1952 Topps PSA 3 Mantle for a customer. Bill said he had one that he could sell for $7500. When I received the card and credit card slips he charged me $8500. I called him and he said oh no, I said $8500, but agreed to refund me $500. Since I did the transaction by phone I had no proof. Never bought anything from him again.

Republicaninmass
08-23-2017, 10:43 AM
my guess, it opens sometime before the closing date

ullmandds
08-23-2017, 10:54 AM
Back in October 2005 I called Bill because I was looking to buy a 1952 Topps PSA 3 Mantle for a customer. Bill said he had one that he could sell for $7500. When I received the card and credit card slips he charged me $8500. I called him and he said oh no, I said $8500, but agreed to refund me $500. Since I did the transaction by phone I had no proof. Never bought anything from him again.

ditto here...I consigned to Goodwin maybe 5 years ago and I had to hound Bill just to get paid. No thanks. There are way too many other AH's who pay in a timely to deal with such BS!

glchen
08-23-2017, 11:46 AM
Are you sure? They are now pulled from his site. The only thing on there now is his last auction.

If you look at the front page (desktop), you see the auction highlights for Proctor's Theater Ruth, Felix Mendelsohn Ruth and Cobb, W600 Wagner, Boston Garter Cobb, etc. These are all new items and not in the previous auction.

edjs
08-23-2017, 12:16 PM
Well, it is live now.

Stampsfan
08-23-2017, 12:48 PM
My twin sons were also born on 8-16!

Wait, what about Elvis? And the Beatles at Shea Stadium.

Shoeless Moe
08-23-2017, 01:06 PM
The reason for the delay is obvious.

Goldin is announcing they are auctioning Goodwin's next entire auction.

CMIZ5290
08-23-2017, 04:51 PM
The reason for the delay is obvious.

Goldin is announcing they are auctioning Goodwin's next entire auction.

I hope people realize a lot higher prices with Goldin than me! I attained substantially higher prices with Bill Goodwin and REA, but lost my butt with Goldin (twice)...

CurtisFlood
08-23-2017, 05:35 PM
Based on the number of calls I get about Ken Goldin I would say Goodwin is the safer bet.

I will quickly say amen to that, and I'm not Bill Goodwin.

T206Collector
08-23-2017, 06:13 PM
Surprised to see a whopping seven signed T206 cards. At least 5 of these originated from the 2007 Great Pittsburgh Find of Signed T206 Cards. I have these poses already, but I am really excited to see what they go for. Did these come from someone's collection on Net54?

EDITED TO ADD: Doyle, Snodgrass, Leifield & McBride are from the Pittsburgh Find; Jones was from the Jeff Morey Collection; Carrigan was a recent pickup on Cleensweep Auctions, and I'm not sure where the Livingston came from - but there are a lot of them, so a lot of sources are possible.

ullmandds
08-23-2017, 06:58 PM
Surprised to see a whopping seven signed T206 cards. At least 5 of these originated from the 2007 Great Pittsburgh Find of Signed T206 Cards. I have these poses already, but I am really excited to see what they go for. Did these come from someone's collection on Net54?

i thought they might be yours!

T206Collector
08-23-2017, 07:16 PM
i thought they might be yours!

Ha! No... though I have owned at least four of them over the past 10 years. I'm still in a hold position. :D

1952boyntoncollector
08-24-2017, 07:51 AM
I made like bids on 7 different cards..and within 5 minutes..my high bidder status was outbidded...amazing to get outbid so fast this early in the auction....they were not bids that would win the card at all but still amazingly fast to have all my bids outbid in 5 minutes or so....people must run to outbid people when they get the email that they are no longer the high bidder....i thought most wait till the end...or put a max bid in..

T206Collector
08-24-2017, 08:27 AM
I made like bids on 7 different cards..and within 5 minutes..my high bidder status was outbidded...amazing to get outbid so fast this early in the auction....they were not bids that would win the card at all but still amazingly fast to have all my bids outbid in 5 minutes or so....people must run to outbid people when they get the email that they are no longer the high bidder....i thought most wait till the end...or put a max bid in..

Sounds like what I heard them talk about in the American Greed episode the other night!

Rhotchkiss
08-24-2017, 08:42 AM
I made like bids on 7 different cards..and within 5 minutes..my high bidder status was outbidded...amazing to get outbid so fast this early in the auction....they were not bids that would win the card at all but still amazingly fast to have all my bids outbid in 5 minutes or so....people must run to outbid people when they get the email that they are no longer the high bidder....i thought most wait till the end...or put a max bid in..

I think this is pretty standard. I generally get on auctions first day and make many early bids knowing I will be outbid, but giving me the option in extending bidding. With Goodwin, which I think has some great things, I bid on like 12+ items. Then, all day long, I get a string of outbid emails.....

ruth-gehrig
09-09-2017, 01:35 PM
I just got my catalog in the mail and had a question to those who are perhaps more familiar with the terminology of "duplicate lots". The catalog says they've pledged to not duplicate lots in their auction. Im guessing that means 2 different lots of the exact same card? Say for example a 1951 Bowman Mantle and 1952 Topps Mantle? :confused:

pawpawdiv9
09-09-2017, 01:47 PM
Funny. Could be several different answers. One is SGC and the other is PSA.
Or that their different grades.
In my opinion, it be hard to turn down a consignment of these 'premier' iconic cards. Basically your turning some good BP(buyer premium) $$ away.
btw, I got mine today as well.

calvindog
09-09-2017, 02:50 PM
I just got my catalog in the mail and had a question to those who are perhaps more familiar with the terminology of "duplicate lots". The catalog says they've pledged to not duplicate lots in their auction. Im guessing that means 2 different lots of the exact same card? Say for example a 1951 Bowman Mantle and 1952 Topps Mantle? :confused:

I don't consider cards with such huge differences in grades to be the card. I'm not sure people in the market for a 52 Mantle 5 are also bidding like wild for one in a 1.5 grade. Can't say the same for Heritage which has 5 cards with the same grade in the same auction.

ullmandds
09-12-2017, 01:04 PM
Goodwin & Co. has extended its Masterpieces & Uncommon Commons LXXII auction due to the tremendous damage and disruption of lives caused by Hurricane Irma in the last several days on top of the devastation caused by Hurricane Harvey just weeks ago. The auction will now close on Wednesday, Sept. 20. "It wouldn't be right to close this auction when so many of our faithful bidders are unable to participate,'' company president Bill Goodwin said. In addition to the extension, Goodwin & Co. has partnered with the American Red Cross to create several Irma/Harvey Relief lots as part of its November 2017 Auction. Collectors interested in donating lots to the Irma/Harvey relief fund may contact Goodwin at bill@goodwinandco.com.

Shocker!!!!

packs
09-12-2017, 01:10 PM
That is a really nice gesture re: helping victims but I would have preferred they partnered with local organizations instead.

alexanderautographs
10-18-2017, 10:59 AM
"John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

alexanderautographs
10-18-2017, 02:18 PM
"John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."