View Full Version : Tin Types: "New Views of Two Old Men," SABR June 2017 Newsletter
tennisguy
06-15-2017, 08:33 PM
I recently had the opportunity to work with Mark Fimoff of SABR and fellow Net 54 member Bruce Garland on an article for SABR's June newsletter authenticating circa 1874 tin types of Joe Battin and Tim Murnane. Link to the newsletter is below - would appreciate your feedback.
https://sabr.box.com/shared/static/b2dfujq121aijc7l50lxeoyf3zthlf9m.pdf
Leon - not sure if this belongs on the main page or in the Memorabilia section but please move if it's more appropriate to put there.
That is some neat identity analysis on those. Tintypes and such could probably go on either side, I would say. Nice work!!
bgar3
06-16-2017, 05:29 AM
Thanks Ryan. Mark did a great job as usual. With this article, the great Ruth postcard piece, and Mark's work on both, there is a lot for Net 54 to be happy about.
Although these players are not in uniform, they were teammates on the Philadelphia team in 1874, and the photographer is from Philadelphia. I think it very possible that are more tintypes from that team out there. I hope more come out as a result of the article. I also wonder how many confirmed major leaguer tintypes are out there.
tennisguy
06-16-2017, 07:18 AM
Thanks Ryan. Mark did a great job as usual. With this article, the great Ruth postcard piece, and Mark's work on both, there is a lot for Net 54 to be happy about.
Although these players are not in uniform, they were teammates on the Philadelphia team in 1874, and the photographer is from Philadelphia. I think it very possible that are more tintypes from that team out there. I hope more come out as a result of the article. I also wonder how many confirmed major leaguer tintypes are out there.
Hopefully, some members can shed some light on this? Also, I want to thank a few members who helped inform me in the beginning process of researching these. Thanks goes out to Leon, Jimmy (19cbb), Rob (ramram) and Scott B.
Hopefully, some members can shed some light on this? Also, I want to thank a few members who helped inform me in the beginning process of researching these. Thanks goes out to Leon, Jimmy (19cbb), Rob (ramram) and Scott B.
I don't know if there is going to be a shedding light moment?
It seems the analysis is very detailed. I am not sure how much more we can glean?
As for the tintype being Murname, it looks like him but I am still not 100% on it. I have less of a leap of faith on the tintype of Battin and I think that does look like him.
In my short time of searching for tintypes I haven't seen very many, if any, major leaguers or even identified players. I know there are some out there and they are few and far between. And anytime I get a chance to show this puppy, and be a little on topic, is good for me. Would always love to see some other baseball action tintypes if they are out there. And I sure hope that pitcher scoots back after the pitch!!
http://luckeycards.com/tintype300.jpg
GaryPassamonte
06-16-2017, 07:44 AM
Way to go, Ryan.
h2oya311
06-16-2017, 11:03 AM
I really enjoyed reading your piece on SABR. Nice work. Not much to add on my end.
GaryPassamonte
06-16-2017, 04:52 PM
Leon- Not a tintype, but an early cdv from Hoboken.
tennisguy
06-17-2017, 06:26 AM
Leon- Not a tintype, but an early cdv from Hoboken.
Gary, I really enjoy seeing those early scenes of the game! Great CDV!
Leon- Great tintype also! Definitely have not come across many action scenes, if any like that on a tintype!
bgar3
06-17-2017, 06:49 AM
Gary, really like that cdv, Leon, I remember that action tintype, excellent.
On the Murnane Id I was not sure either, that is why I asked Mark to take a look. If says ok, I am totally convinced. His expertise is amazing.
The only other image of Murnane I have is the 1877 Boston composite, where he has changed the name from "Murnan" to "Murnane". This composite was given to Murnane by fellow writer Jake Morse.
Murnane is actually in the writer's wing of the Hall of Fame.
bgar3
06-17-2017, 06:55 AM
I really liked seeing the earlier game action photos, maybe there should be a new thread, but in the meantime here are 2 more from the early 1860's (at least). Hope the are straight and viewable. I have info on them if anyone is interested.
bgar3
06-17-2017, 06:57 AM
Sorry, only 1 came out. Hopefully the other one is here.
bgar3
06-17-2017, 07:02 AM
1869 Jarvis field Harvard, by George Kendall Warren. I wish it was from the Red Stocking Vs Harvard game that was also played there that year.
GaryPassamonte
06-17-2017, 11:55 AM
Nice images. Game action shots are so difficult to find. I've only had three in over 25 years of looking.