PSA v SGC

[cardsnstuff]

Looking for some insight as I never personally submitted to SGC; any comments & help appreciated: Must decide by June 30th.

So here's my question. I have a bunch of cards/auto's that I'm considering sending in to SGc; I need to join their gold club $125 to take advantage of their $5 card/$8 auto special. I have at least 300-500 I am considering.
1. Is it worth it? Do they often do this special or is like once a year?
2. How do SGC cards compare to PSA in terms of resale? say from 40's to present and on auto cards; I know it's lower but how much lower {ie. 10%, 30%, etc}
3. How does SGC {JSA} auto compare to PSA/DNA auto, in terms of resale?
4. Would you do this; have you had good experience with SGC or wait it out for a modern 56+ psa special? {if it ever happens}

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Looking for some insight as I never personally submitted to SGC; any comments & help appreciated: Must decide by June 30th.

So here's my question. I have a bunch of cards/auto's that I'm considering sending in to SGc; I need to join their gold club $125 to take advantage of their $5 card/$8 auto special. I have at least 300-500 I am considering.
1. Is it worth it? Do they often do this special or is like once a year?
2. How do SGC cards compare to PSA in terms of resale? say from 40's to present and on auto cards; I know it's lower but how much lower {ie. 10%, 30%, etc}
3. How does SGC {JSA} auto compare to PSA/DNA auto, in terms of resale?
4. Would you do this; have you had good experience with SGC or wait it out for a modern 56+ psa special? {if it ever happens}



Here is my 2 cents.

1. The Gold Club thing is new for SGC and I would say it's a damn good deal!

2. SGC cards are usually lower resale, but each card really is a case by case basis. Some are closer than others in value.

3. This is where you may notice the biggest or smallest difference. Some people will ONLY buy PSA auto and some could care less and will pay the same amount for a JSA auto.(from my experience)

4. I personally love the way SGC grades. They seem to be dead on with their grades. I have noticed lately that PSA is just way too strict and inconstant too. I have gotten cards back with stains graded a 5 with no stain designation and cards that look amazing as 4's. SGC if definitely my preference for grading, however if you are looking to make a quick flip PSA may be your best play short term. Lowest PSA usually will go is like $6.50 so multiply your 500 cards by the extra $1.50 and your looking at $750 right off the bat in grading fees. If you're looking at lower end cards SGC may be worth the play, higher end (where you can recoup that $750 in 5-10 cards, then PSA probably.

K bye.

[irv]

Here is my 2 cents.

1. The Gold Club thing is new for SGC and I would say it's a damn good deal!

2. SGC cards are usually lower resale, but each card really is a case by case basis. Some are closer than others in value.

3. This is where you may notice the biggest or smallest difference. Some people will ONLY buy PSA auto and some could care less and will pay the same amount for a JSA auto.(from my experience)

4. I personally love the way SGC grades. They seem to be dead on with their grades. I have noticed lately that PSA is just way too strict and inconstant too. I have gotten cards back with stains graded a 5 with no stain designation and cards that look amazing as 4's. SGC if definitely my preference for grading, however if you are looking to make a quick flip PSA may be your best play short term. Lowest PSA usually will go is like $6.50 so multiply your 500 cards by the extra $1.50 and your looking at $750 right off the bat in grading fees. If you're looking at lower end cards SGC may be worth the play, higher end (where you can recoup that $750 in 5-10 cards, then PSA probably.

K bye.

Although I have never submitted anything to anyone, I have, while trying to learn/educate myself, found so many submissions/slab cards that make one scratch their head! :eek:

I know some are older slabbed cards, and one cannot, imo, compare them to new graded cards, but even the consistencies I have seen with new slabbed, or hologrammed cards, also have me scratching my head.

I have debated this back and forth in my head numerous times who I would send my cards into if I were to get them graded, and every time I come back to the conclusion, SGC is the best. As a bonus, I also like the looks of their slabs the best.

[bobbyw8469]

I have debated this back and forth in my head numerous times who I would send my cards into if I were to get them graded, and every time I come back to the conclusion, SGC is the best. As a bonus, I also like the looks of their slabs the best.

Until it comes time to unload them.

[lampertb]

Having submitted to both, and having put together a number of sets from all eras (1887 - 1971), I can say that at least in my experience...

1) SGC submissions are always easy
2) SGC's customer support (i.e., on the phone) is easier and better than PSA's
3) If you are concerned with resale, then you are better off using PSA if cards are from the 1930s to the present, and probably with T206s too; the only cards on which I have NOT found a huge difference in prices between the two slabs have been on 19th century cards. Otherwise, PSA gets the better price every time. (To illustrate, check out some high-grade 1971 Topps cards in both slabs... huge gap!)

[Snapolit1]

I'd wait for a show and get them done on site. Whole idea that you have to wait a month to get cards back unless you want to pay for rush service is ridiculous. And my experience is that when they say 30 days or 21 days they are never early. I guess some guy picks up the box on what's been calendered as 30 days and then spends 10 minutes with your cards.

Like most I prefer SGC on pre war cards. Just look so much better. But difficult to argue that PSA doesn't get a real premium in most cases. I guess guys who are into the whole registry thing will pay a big premium.

[nat]

The registry would explain high-grade cards. Do lower-grade cards also get a big premium in PSA slabs, even though people competing in the registry aren't going to be interested in them? (With the exception of really rare stuff which might only be found in low grades.)

[botn]

I'd wait for a show and get them done on site. Whole idea that you have to wait a month to get cards back unless you want to pay for rush service is ridiculous. And my experience is that when they say 30 days or 21 days they are never early. I guess some guy picks up the box on what's been calendered as 30 days and then spends 10 minutes with your cards.

Like most I prefer SGC on pre war cards. Just look so much better. But difficult to argue that PSA doesn't get a real premium in most cases. I guess guys who are into the whole registry thing will pay a big premium.

Ummmm...the other person has 300 to 500 cards to grade. The lowest show service is probably $35 to $40 a card for onsite compared to the $5 or $8 fee he is looking to spend.

[sterlingfox]

I just did an SGC submission of 10 cards in April, and got my cards back in less than 3 weeks for their slowest service ($10 per card for a non member, minus a $20 off $100 SGC submission coupon that Probstein sent me with an eBay purchase).

Well worth the wait for saving over $20 per card vs getting them done at the show where I submitted them.

I did get one card reviewed at the show, and that took the full 7 hours that I was there. It was promised in 2 hours. Didn't get the bump after all that waiting anyway...

[Snapolit1]

Ummmm...the other person has 300 to 500 cards to grade. The lowest show service is probably $35 to $40 a card for onsite compared to the $5 or $8 fee he is looking to spend.

I had cards graded last year by SGC at the National and believe it was $8 a pop. Maybe a few bucks more.

[tiger8mush]

Looking for some insight as I never personally submitted to SGC; any comments & help appreciated:

You ask about resale. After the $125 membership fee plus shipping both ways (I'd assume that'll get expensive for that many cards) plus $5-8/card grading fee + any taxes and other costs, will you recoup that when it comes time to sell? If its low grade I would think not. Seems you bought the items raw, why not sell raw? If its high grade, then I'd think the PSA registry would make the cards more desirable and you'd make back your money easily but then if these are expensive cards would they quality for the $5/card service?

When it comes time to sell, you can go thru auction houses that'll sometimes send the cards to be graded for you, and a common theory is some AHs get better grades than if a common collector submitted them, so an option is to just wait till it comes time to sell them to get them graded.

400 cards * ~$8 (average after fees) is over $3k that I'd rather spend on more cards than giving to TPGs. You'll be unhappy with a % of those grades and want to send back in for a 2nd look and spend more money etc.
But if you are hooked on getting them graded, then I'd recommend SGC (or BVG if protection is your #1 concern) for low grade and PSA for high grade.

[A2000]

I don't believe JSA is affiliated with SGC anymore.

[Eric72]

Has SGC addressed the issue regarding cards sliding beneath their gaskets? In my opinion, this is a major flaw that could potentially damage a card.

Setting aside the discussions pertaining to resale value, registries, etc...if a holder doesn't properly protect the card encased within, shouldn't that be something to seriously consider when choosing a grading company?

[irv]

Until it comes time to unload them.

I agree, however, from what I have noticed, with PSA's grading being all over the place, my cards could grade 2-3's, or 4-5's, and maybe even the odd 6?
To me, it is not worth it to spend the money and be disappointed with the grades and lose money, (If I were to sell) where if I sent to SGC, I know they, (although they are not perfect) will give me the most consistent/accurate grades, which I can live.

I also think the pendulum is starting to swing the other way in SGC's favor as many posts have been written/talked about on here wondering how their PSA cards, or noticed/seen cards, received the grades they did?

In all likely hood, it will be sometime yet, if ever, that I send cards in, so none of this really matters to me anyhow, but, like I stated, if I were to be sending some/all soon, my choice, today, would certainly be, SGC.

[pclpads]

Until it comes time to unload them.

+1

[jcc6252]

Has SGC addressed the issue regarding cards sliding beneath their gaskets? In my opinion, this is a major flaw that could potentially damage a card.

Setting aside the discussions pertaining to resale value, registries, etc...if a holder doesn't properly protect the card encased within, shouldn't that be something to seriously consider when choosing a grading company?

+1

Let's just say it does damage cards and I have seen more than one in that boat.

[maximus35]

Have any of you guys sent in any PSA 9s to cross over to BGS or SGC gem mint?

[PowderedH2O]

I used the PSA collectors club special in April. I sent in a submission of 53 cards using the 50 day choice. I had them graded and back in my possession 16 days after I shipped them.