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Exhibitman
05-24-2017, 02:31 PM
Without getting into the whole debate over PWCC business practices. there were some very strong (I thought) prices on some boxing cards that closed yesterday:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/saleholding/websize/PWCC%20Boxing%20Close%202017%2005%2024.png

I don't recall seeing prices this solid in quite a while.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

bobbyw8469
05-24-2017, 06:23 PM
Was this legitimate bidding or something else going on involving the consignors?

Exhibitman
05-24-2017, 11:06 PM
I believe legit.

GasHouseGang
05-25-2017, 01:55 AM
Jack Johnson cards certainly seems to be drawing a lot of interest and big money at auctions lately.

Exhibitman
05-25-2017, 01:19 PM
Wonder what my E80 with Jefferson Burdick back stamping would sell for...

Peter_Spaeth
05-25-2017, 02:36 PM
Wonder what my E80 with Jefferson Burdick back stamping would sell for...

Consign it to PWCC and find out. :)

Exhibitman
05-25-2017, 05:25 PM
No thanks...I don't give up control over my items' pricing and descriptions.

I'll take $4600 for it ;)

Ed
05-25-2017, 09:28 PM
i was exceptionally happy to see the strong bid prices. I can tell you that the bids are legit as I was the underbidder on 2 of the 4 cards above. I've always believed quality vintage Boxing was undervalued, and I still do. I've been a very infrequent contributor here, but love the forum. Ed

th38larg
05-26-2017, 11:10 AM
Yeah, the Kopec price was the biggest surprise. Didn't bid on it but was watching closely. I guess a couple of people were looking to grab it for a type collection. I rarely see one for sale (there was one at LOTG recently, but it was missing a big chunk).

samosa4u
05-26-2017, 11:44 AM
If Hollywood ever makes a movie on Jack Johnson, then these cards will probably triple in value.

By the way, I own his 1909 Ogden's Cigarette card; is that his true rookie?

Exhibitman
05-26-2017, 12:20 PM
Heck if I know. PSA lists a couple of PCs from 1908 in the player registry.

butcher354435
05-27-2017, 11:26 AM
I'll make a few comments..

The final price for the Kopec Johnson didn't surprise me at all. Great looking card and only a few known. First complete Kopec Johnson I've seen publicly offered since I've been collecting.

There are a few mainstream issues(where complete sets could or do exist) where there are less than 5 copies known to exist(to my knowledge). Here are the ones I can think of:

1908 T226 Red Sun
1909/10 e79 Red Back
1910 Kopec
1910 T219 Red Cross
1910 e78
T9 Turkey Red no Ad back

Of course there are others where only 1-2 are known like the e125 or New England Confectionery flip card but I don't consider those mainstream(personnel choice).

In the end, its a great card and congrats to the winner.

Congrats to the T9 no Ad back winner also as I know of only 3 of those to exist. ;-)

aljurgela
05-27-2017, 01:08 PM
I really wanted the Kopec and was outbid by quite a. It. It was the best looking low grade one that I had seen in awhile. Looking back, I probably should have stretched on it, but just struggled to get there. Brent, if you got it, maybe we can work a trade if it is a dupe for you.

I have been selling a number of dupes on eBay over the past six months and have noticed more action in my boxing dupes than my negro league and soccer cards, so maybe there is a slight turn in the market, which is pretty good news for most of us who are deep in the category