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amcmets1969
02-08-2017, 08:08 AM
Good morning all,

As i am browsing the internet in search of adding to my 69 mets season ticket collection of tickets/stubs - I am coming across many graded pieces (mostly playoff tix)

Are graded tix/stubs even worth the buy? It seems as if prices are inflated from most of these sellers.

Are vintage ticket stub prices increasing due to its popularity? or are people just trying to hose on graded stubs?

Please let me know your thoughts

Thanks!

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE
02-08-2017, 08:51 AM
Don't waste the money on grading IMO

RichardSimon
02-08-2017, 08:51 AM
My opinion of putting anything into a plastic tomb.
This is the only item I have ever bought for my collection that was in a plastic tomb.

vintagesportscollector
02-08-2017, 08:59 AM
Are vintage ticket stub prices increasing due to its popularity? YES

or are people just trying to hose on graded stubs? YES

amcmets1969
02-08-2017, 09:38 AM
Thank you all for the feedback - it is pretty clear to stay away from graded stubs! haha :D

Lordstan
02-08-2017, 12:11 PM
Generally speaking, i am antislabbing for all collectibles, except for just prior to selling as it can increase sale price to a degree. That being said, I think avoiding them is perhaps too strong a sentiment. I wouldn't stay away from them. If there is a specific stub you need and the only copy is slabbed, it might be worth buying. Just like Richard above. He bought it slabbed and freed it from its prison.

I think the best way to say it is that I prefer raw, but will not avoid slabbed if I need it and its the best option available.

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amcmets1969
02-09-2017, 05:50 AM
I totally agree with that - i appreciate the feedback

thank you!

megalimey
02-09-2017, 10:19 AM
Generally speaking, i am antislabbing for all collectibles, except for just prior to selling as it can increase sale price to a degree. That being said, I think avoiding them is perhaps too strong a sentiment. I wouldn't stay away from them. If there is a specific stub you need and the only copy is slabbed, it might be worth buying. Just like Richard above. He bought it slabbed and freed it from its prison.

I think the best way to say it is that I prefer raw, but will not avoid slabbed if I need it and its the best option available.

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thanks for your fair input I know you are not a fan of slabbing especially PSA
but you at least acknowledge there may be a reason to pay a premium for a slabbed ticket if no other example is available
but from a layman's point of view when buying any ticket of any substantial value
say that number is $500 or higher being encapsulated by the worlds leader in ticket authentication (yes I am bias) can only help verses a raw ticket from "grandpa's collection" a lot of reproductions are now being offered especially
Lou Gehrig Memorial Game , Babe Ruth W/Series called shot both desirable tickets (there are others as well)
deliberately aged to look old but mostly sold as copies , however some of these
have resurfaced and not being offered as copies so one should tread carefully
should someone be willing to spend $1000-2000 on a Ruth called shot raw ticket or unslabbed with no sound verifiable provenance , so its piece of mind and the extra cost is justified I think , once again "I am bias" at last count PSA submissions 2,674,000 and counting so its not just me who thinks there is some value in certain items being encased which also protects raw item against handling
preserves their current condition , so you can show them with out fear of damage if touched by hand

DeafSports
02-09-2017, 12:06 PM
Let's go Mets!!

Die hard mets fan since I born in 1979 and been to million games myself. My 11 years old son's bedroom is full of mets with all stuff that my dad and I collected over the years.

However- If you going to collect every tickets from 1969 season along the playoffs so I would say about 160 games in total. It might be such a beauty to have everything in PSA holder but for the amount money and space, I wouldnt do it. I prob will PSA all playoff/World Series tickets only.

I collect 1945 Cincinnati Reds tickets and they are HARD to find these days especially during World War days. I have about 20 right now. I collect these because of Richard Sipek who was the third deaf player played in MLB. I plan to talk with PSA to see if they will be willing to put Sipek's daily stats on the holder. If they would, I will go ahead and submit all of them. I think I will wait till few years to see if I could get more.

I also collect Curtis Pride who was the 4th deaf player. he played in 421 MLB games and I was able to get 125 tickets so far. No way I will put them in holder but im having hard time sorting them as they come in various size.

It's all how you want to look at them at the end of the day.

Mets for 2017!

amcmets1969
02-09-2017, 01:59 PM
IF the price is right i have no problem purchasing a product that is already graded - i just see these prices through the roof just bc they is a piece of plastic that someone said is authentic. i'd much rather prefer an old school hard plastic sleeve :)

Thank you for your time!

amcmets1969
02-09-2017, 02:00 PM
LETS GO METS!! thank you all for your input


I have season tickets to the mets

Section 106
Row 11 (on the field)
Seast 20-21 (aisle)

If you wish - shoot me over your email and I can send you my price list

avoid stub hub fees and taxes

icollectDCsports
02-09-2017, 05:16 PM
IF the price is right i have no problem purchasing a product that is already graded - i just see these prices through the roof just bc they is a piece of plastic that someone said is authentic. i'd much rather prefer an old school hard plastic sleeve :)

Thank you for your time!

I'm not a big fan of slabbing such things in general, but certainly for the tickets you're looking for, you're taking the right approach in my opinion. Good luck with your search. I've always thought the '69 Mets were a great story, with some great players and characters.

Scott Garner
02-09-2017, 08:42 PM
I'm personally not a fan of PSA slabbing tickets.
This is how I prefer to store mine, BTW.
I would prefer to spend my money on the ticket, not the slab.
To each is own, though.
There is no right or wrong way to collect in my humble opinion... ;)

megalimey
02-10-2017, 01:35 PM
IF the price is right i have no problem purchasing a product that is already graded - i just see these prices through the roof just bc they is a piece of plastic that someone said is authentic. i'd much rather prefer an old school hard plastic sleeve :)

Thank you for your time!

people can ask what they like for a particular ticket thats no guarantee they will get full asking price or anything close to their asking price
there are tons of ridiculous pie in the sky prices for tickets on ebay that some people ask
reality is if its the right price it gets sold quick at fair market value , if not they get to keep it slabbed or not slabbed ,
Fact is most of the high end desirable mile stone tickets $1000 or more
are slabbed with serial numbers to avoid any potential classic bait and switch
or claims item is not as described so they can squeeze seller for a discount

there is no way I would try and sell a raw ticket valued over a $1000 to some one who then gets to handle it poorly, very easy to do take it out of old plastic sleeve and then possibly drop it , ding it, bend it , crease it or cause other damage and then claim it was like that when they got it ,
when its slabbed sealed it cant be messed with and if they return it its the same as when shipped

finally and most important no body twists any body's arm to hit the buy it now button or to bid,

Lordstan
02-10-2017, 04:59 PM
Megalimey Quote "thanks for your fair input I know you are not a fan of slabbing especially PSA
but you at least acknowledge there may be a reason to pay a premium for a slabbed ticket if no other example is available:

I have nothing specifically against PSA. I dislike all slabbing. I did acknowledge that there might be a reason to pay a premium for a slabbed copy if no other example is available, but it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the fact that it is slabbed. The premium is because there are no other copies available for sale, which usually drives up the price anyway.

I tried to be fair, but please stop.
The reason most high end stubs are slabbed is because the auction houses want them that way to relieve them of any responsibility, not because there is some inherent value to having them in a slab. As we have discussed a million times before, there are many many examples of high end ticket stubs that have been sold without slabbing and their prices have done quite well in comparison to slabbed versions.

The previous discussion, which included many examples, is here for those who wish to view as I do not wish to rehash this again.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=223277&highlight=1932+ws+ticket


That all being said, this was not his question. In essence, he was asking if slabbed tickets were worth paying a premium for. My answer was and is NO, unless your desire for it is so great you cannot wait for another to come along. There is nothing wrong with buying something slabbed, but I, personally, would never pay a premium for it because of that.