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fuzzybub
01-14-2017, 11:40 AM
I have a hypothetical situation involving an auction house purchase that I wanted to present, one that has probably been encountered in the past by others. I would like to see if I can get some constructive feedback on it.
Here it is:

A person wins an item through an auction house, pays for it in full including
the buyer’s premium. They receive the item and after opening the package find that it is damaged. They file a claim with the shipping company which is approved. Due to the nature of the filing process, the approved claim check has to pass through the auction house before getting to the customer who filed. The person is informed by the auction house that to receive the claim(money), the damaged item has to be returned to the auction house.
From a legal standpoint, does the customer have to return the item to the
auction house in order to receive the claim check? (Does the auction house have a legal right to withhold the claim check until the damaged item is
returned).The person has paid for it in full(including the handling, shipping & INSURANCE) and is the legal owner of it(and
has it in their possession). The auction house is not out of anything
financially. They have received full payment for the item from the customer(Which includes their buyer's premium fee) and any money being
returned to the customer is via the shipping company approved claim paid by the shipping company as a result of insurance paid for by the customer.


Any insight on this hypothetical situation would be greatly appreciated.

D. Bergin
01-14-2017, 12:11 PM
Possibly, if the insurance company paid out the entire amount of the item, they may want the item in return, and the auction house has to forward to them.

Is it a full payoff, a partial payoff? Has the item been declared "totaled"?

or

Is this is not actually a "hypothetical"?

or

It is a hypothetical and somebody is wondering if they can receive a damaged item, get refunded fully for it, and then keep it.

Is there more to this story?

ibuysportsephemera
01-14-2017, 12:38 PM
Possibly, if the insurance company paid out the entire amount of the item, they may want the item in return, and the auction house has to forward to them.

Is it a full payoff, a partial payoff? Has the item been declared "totaled"?

or

Is this is not actually a "hypothetical"?

or

It is a hypothetical and somebody is wondering if they can receive a damaged item, get refunded fully for it, and then keep it.

Is there more to this story?

Hi Dave...Good questions...I am looking forward to the response.

Jeff

mcgwirecom
01-14-2017, 01:01 PM
I had an item get damaged in the US mail. It was insured. It was an ucut sheet of cards. It got creased because the flimsy tube was crushed. I picked it up at the post office so I saw it and immediately showed it to the counter person. I told them I wanted to file a claim but if they had to keep the sheet I would rather not. They said they only had to keep it until the postmaster inspected it. I got my insurance claim and got the sheet back. Maybe it was because I had a rapport at my local post office, I am not sure.

fuzzybub
01-14-2017, 01:19 PM
Let's say hypothetically only the hammer price..

bnorth
01-14-2017, 03:09 PM
Let's say hypothetically only the hammer price..

Then you would be hypothetically getting screwed out of the BP and shipping both ways with absolutely nothing to show for it. The AH would be making out like a bandit though.

earlywynnfan
01-14-2017, 04:20 PM
I would expect to have to ship the item to the AH, and I would expect the AH to reimburse my entire payment. If I was told to eat the return postage, I wouldn't be thrilled, but it wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

Scott Garner
01-14-2017, 05:04 PM
I would expect to have to ship the item to the AH, and I would expect the AH to reimburse my entire payment. If I was told to eat the return postage, I wouldn't be thrilled, but it wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

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