Cards That Should Have Been

[Lgarza99]

I have two:
1. Ty Cobb Green Portait on a T3.
2. A Joe Jackson T206 portrait.

I just think the Cobb in a larger image would have been outstanding.

Do you guys have any thoughts on cards that should have been?

[rats60]

Babe Ruth Cracker Jack

[Scocs]

American-produced Negro League baseball cards....

[Cmount76]

Babe Ruth Cracker jack

+1

[brianp-beme]

I have two:
1. Ty Cobb Green Portait on a T3.
2. A Joe Jackson T206 portrait.

A Cobb green portrait as a T3 might be cool, but it would break the stylistic choice as seen in the set, which is that all players are shown in action poses.

Any T206 Joe Jackson would be neat, but it would probably mean one more card that most collectors would not have in their incomplete 'complete' sets. I would lean toward an action shot on this one (probably it is fairly obvious that I am man of action).

My pick would be a 1937/38 Zeenut of Ted Williams with the San Diego Padres. The manufacturers decided not to include any Padres players in these years, a break from all their previous Zeenut years where all the teams in the PCL were represented. So thus no Teddy Ballgame.

[drcy]

Even though Robin Yount was included, there are proofs for a 1975 Hostess George Brett rookie card but it was never included in the final issue.

[Jason]

How about a Jim Thorpe T210/T209 that would be cool!

[Bliggity]

Walter Johnson in an E90/92/101/102/105/106/etc set.

[nebboy]

The rest of the 400 designs for T205s

[Lgarza99]

A Cobb green portrait as a T3 might be cool, but it would break the stylistic choice as seen in the set, which is that all players are shown in action poses.

Any T206 Joe Jackson would be neat, but it would probably mean one more card that most collectors would not have in their incomplete 'complete' sets. I would lean toward an action shot on this one (probably it is fairly obvious that I am man of action).

My pick would be a 1937/38 Zeenut of Ted Williams with the San Diego Padres. The manufacturers decided not to include any Padres players in these years, a break from all their previous Zeenut years where all the teams in the PCL were represented. So thus no Teddy Ballgame.

Brian, great info. A Zeenut of a young Ted Williams would have been great!

[conor912]

There's lots, but the first few that come to mind are T3s of Jackson and Wagner and '52T Musial.

[jfkheat]

1954 and 1955 Topps Mantles. 1952 and 1953 Topps Ted williams
James

[7nohitter]

1966 Nolan Ryan

[edjs]

T211 Joe Jackson. I made this one up as a joke on one of the April Fools threads. It would be amazing.

[oldjudge]

Rogers Hornsby M101-4/5
1887 Cap Anson Old Judge
1955 Topps Mantle
Gypsy Queen Harry Wright and Connie Mack(they should exist but are unknown)
Mayo Cy Young

[rats60]

The rest of the 400 designs for T205s

Including Wagner, Plank and Joe Jackson.

[Econteachert205]

Ryan/Seaver mets rookie stars

[BeanTown]

Joe Jackson 1909 T206 as he played with Philadelphia for ten days that season.
Joe Jackson 1910 Old Mill Cabinet
Babe Ruth 1914 Texas Tommy

[Steve D]

My pick would be a 1937/38 Zeenut of Ted Williams with the San Diego Padres. The manufacturers decided not to include any Padres players in these years, a break from all their previous Zeenut years where all the teams in the PCL were represented. So thus no Teddy Ballgame.


+1

As a life-long Padres and Ted Williams fan, that is my big pet-peeve with Zeenuts.

Steve

[mybuddyinc]

E107 Louis "Chief" Sockalexis

[EvilKing00]

The rest of the 400 designs for T205s

+1 lol

[david_l]

American-produced Negro League baseball cards....

Totally.

I'll also go with a Jim Thorpe T218.

[Jason Carota]

N300 Jimmy Collins Louisville/Boston variations.

[Peter_Spaeth]

1935 Diamond Stars Ruth and Gehrig.
1934 Goudey Ruth.
1935 Goudey Gehrig.
1938 Goudey Gehrig.
1948-51 Bowman DiMaggio.

[Lgarza99]

1935 Diamond Stars Ruth and Gehrig.
1934 Goudey Ruth.
1935 Goudey Gehrig.
1938 Goudey Gehrig.
1948-51 Bowman DiMaggio.

Peter,
A 50 and 51 Bowman DiMaggio would have been great.

And I really like the idea posted earlier of a T205 Wagner.

[leaflover]

It certainly should have been.

[brian1961]

It certainly should have been.

Viola!!!!! A fantasy dream come true. Same with the 1934-36 Diamond Stars Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, and Joe DiMaggio. All produced by Art of the Game for the National Convention, ensconced by PSA!

You guys have all made swells picks, especially the T-206 Joe Jackson. I'll add:

T-3 of Joe Jackson and Joe Wood
T-206 Joe Wood
T-206 Colby Jack Coombs
1933 Delong Babe Ruth
1933 Delong Dizzy Dean (horizontal shot)
1933 Delong Mel Ott
1933 Delong Gabby Hartnett
1933 Delong Ted Lyons
1933 Delong Paul Waner
IS ANYONE ON HERE INFLUENTIAL FRIENDS WITH THE "LOVE OF THE GAME" FIRM THAT LOVINGLY FABRICATED THE 2013 CRACKER JACK BABE AND THE 2014 DIAMOND STAR BEAUTIES? It's not too early to present them with a grand idea for the 2017 National. Probably the best people to contact is Memory Lane Auctions, the firm that sponsored the CJ Ruth and this year's Lucky 7 Ty Cobb reprint. Boy, that Cobb was a honey in its serial-numbered /500 PSA case, and housed in the custom wood display box it came in---pure quality.

In conjunction with my E-book on a CD, NEVER CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN, and with the help of an artist/computer graphic artist and a very conscientious print shop worker, I managed to create a couple post-war dream cards, with 2 versions of each:

1954 Wilson Franks Mickey Mantle
1954 Wilson Franks Jackie Robinson

I was extremely pleased with them. They were designed at precisely the correct size, with pastel color backgrounds, semi-gloss sheen, and period autographs with a fine point pen. I had a lot of fun writing the backside write-ups. Oh, and in small type on the backside is to be seen the year they were printed. A very fulfilling dream to complement my dream of writing a hobby book.:D

This topic pops up every once in awhile, and always seems to illicit some very heart-felt responses! ---Brian Powell

[wolf441]

T206 Tris Speaker Portrait
T206 Honus Wagner Batting
T206 Eddie Plank Pitching

[PolarBear]

I agree with many of these already mentioned.

T206 Jackson
1915 CJ Ruth
The other 200 T205's. Man, that could have been the premier set in the hobby.
And too bad we didn't have a large 200+ color set from the mid/late 20's.

1953 Bowman Color set extended to 252 cards (same as the 52 set) to include Robinson, Mays, Williams, etc. That could have been another premier set.

Add Musial to any of the 50's Topps sets.

[JRO$!(]

Red Sox players... woulda, shoulda been sweet!

[Rookiemonster]

A benny Friedman from his playing career .

1952 topps Ted Williams high number or sachel page .

1951 red backs Mays and mantle .

[campyfan39]

54 & 55 topps Mantle Campy and Musial
52 topps Joe D

[JollyElm]

For fans of post-war material, I created a whole slew of missing 1972 'in action' HOF'er cards awhile back. Check it out:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=219771

[glchen]

You can see where my collecting interests lie:

1915 Cracker Jack Babe Ruth
1929 Leader Novelty Babe Ruth
1929 Leader Novelty Lou Gehrig
1931 W517 Mini Babe Ruth
1933 Butter Cream Lou Gehrig
1933 Delong Babe Ruth
1933 George Miller Babe Ruth
1933 George Miller Lou Gehrig
1933 Uncle Jacks Lou Gehrig

[judsonhamlin]

Old Judge Frank Grant
Batter Up Gehrig
33 goudey Connie Mack

[Bored5000]

I have often wondered why there is not a Cracker Jack Jim Thorpe. He did not have a lot of at bats in 1913 or 1914, but he was still a huge name at that point and would have made sense to be in the 1915 set at the very least.

[Spike]

1933 Goudey: both Ruth & Gehrig
1934 Goudey: Gehrig only
1935 Goudey 4-in-1: Ruth (Braves) only

While I understand 1934 Goudey's more of an "update" to 33G, featuring primarily new players after the first series, I'd enjoy either of these:

1934 Goudey Ruth
Goudey 4-in-1 with both Babe and Lou in pinstripes

[Sean]

I have often wondered why there is not a Cracker Jack Jim Thorpe. He did not have a lot of at bats in 1913 or 1914, but he was still a huge name at that point and would have made sense to be in the 1915 set at the very least.

I don't think that they added players from 1914 to 1915, they just used the same ones. But I'm no expert on CJs

[brianp-beme]

Totally.

I'll also go with a Jim Thorpe T218.

Never thought of a T218 of Thorpe. What a great card it would be, and it makes sense that it should have been in the set...what were the producers of that set (not) thinking?

Brian

[Maxjacks]

I would love a Mathewson T206 with his pose in this picture.
https://i.imgur.com/eW8SUNY.jpg

[Bored5000]

I don't think that they added players from 1914 to 1915, they just used the same ones. But I'm no expert on CJs

The set expanded from 144 players to 176 players for the 1915 cards. The mention of "176 pictures" on the back of each 1915 card is one of the easiest ways of determining if a card is a '14 Cracker Jack or a '15.

[Sean]

Eddie, thanks for explaining that. I never knew that CJ added players. I thought that Pratt and Mathewson were the only changes (besides the backs being flipped). :)

[Bored5000]

Eddie, thanks for explaining that. I never knew that CJ added players. I thought that Pratt and Mathewson were the only changes (besides the backs being flipped). :)

No problem. :)

[trdcrdkid]

T206 Connie Mack
T205 and T207 Grover Cleveland Alexander

[aljurgela]

American-produced Negro League baseball cards....

+1 The Cubans, Mexican and Puerto Rican cards are great... but what a shame and commentary on our society that nothing was done in the USA....

[e107collector]

E107 portraits of Joe Jackson and Ty Cobb.

Also, T210 Cabinet of Joe Jackson. This has been rumored to exist, although I don't think it does.

T206 Of Joe Jackson

E107 portrait of Wagner in his uniform.

Tony

[sflayank]

The ultimate would have been a 68 3d of mantle

[paul]

Any of the many missing Jesse Burkett cards, like N300 Mayo, E107, 1904 Allegheny.

[packs]

1939 Play Ball Lou Gehrig as a last hurrah card

[MartyFromCANADA]

George Gibson - Cracker Jack

[alaskapaul3]

N300 Jack Stivetts
N300 Steve Brodie
N300 Candy La Chance
1904 Fan Craze Burkett
Goudey or Playball : Hank Lieber
PlayBall : Claude Passeau
1956,57 Topps Musial
1959 ,60 Topps Ted Williams

[ErikV]

1940 Play Ball

Gehrig, Ruth, Feller


ErikV

[DixieBaseball]

T211 Joe Jackson. I made this one up as a joke on one of the April Fools threads. It would be amazing.

I am still awaiting Series 2 proof set of 39 cards. I feel confident it was going to happen... The first 75 are spot on match to the T210's. Just need the final 39.... Obviously never produced, but some remnant of a proof, intentions recorded, etc. --- What a find it would be!

Great Joe Green!

[rhettyeakley]

How about a Jim Thorpe T210/T209 that would be cool!

This!

I have a feeling he didn't give them permission as he pretty much knew that he was doing something wrong but just figured it wouldn't catch up with him as he was quoted as saying other college athletes were doing the same thing. I don't think he would have approved of someone marketing a card of him while still a college athlete that could be used as evidence against him.

[clydepepper]

More Smoky Joe!




.

[irv]

In this article, it talks about why Joe Dimaggio wasn't included in the 52 Topps set, plus it shows others who also didn't make it.

Besides Dimaggio, Satchel Paige and Ted Williams are definitely 2 I wish were.
http://www.1952toppsbaseballcards.com/

[bnorth]

In this article, it talks about why Joe Dimaggio wasn't included in the 52 Topps set, plus it shows others who also didn't make it.

Besides Dimaggio, Satchel Paige and Ted Williams are definitely 2 I wish were.
http://www.1952toppsbaseballcards.com/

Nice link Dale. I like the 52 Ted fantasy card in the article. I have this one from the 2007 National. Luckily the ugly glue stain is on the slab and not the card.

[dabigyankeeman]

It has always really bugged me that there is no 1934 Goudey Babe Ruth card. Its not like he didnt play that year, I believe he played in about 125 or so games. You got 2 Gehrigs but no Ruth, this is tragic. They even managed to get the Babe into the 1935 set, its terrible they skipped 1934.

Just in general I would have loved to see more Gehrig cards, there are so few compared to how many Ruth cards are out there.

Also I would have loved to see a 1952 Topps Joe DiMaggio. I wish Topps in fact would always produce a card the year after a major player retires so you get one final card of him with all his career stats on it. 1969 Mantle is an example of a card like this.

[PowderedH2O]

Mantle actually retired in 1969, so I'm guessing his card was already in the works by the time he'd announced it. But, I agree. I enjoy that final stats card when they've been issued.

[Yoda]

1951-55 Bowman cards of Jackie Robinson. His omission is a crying shame thanks to, I guess, a contract with Topps.

[thenextlevel]

The ultimate would have been a 68 3d of mantle

Would have been sweet! I like the look of the 1968 3D Mantle that Topps did in one of their recent Archives issues.

[JustinD]

I would have loved to been able to add a DeLong of Ruth.

Also, add me to the 68' 3D Mantle list too!