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wondo
11-21-2016, 06:05 PM
but it is so way cool! :cool::cool::cool::cool:

Usually a postal mark reduces the value of a card - but this enhances it. A verified 1907 Cobb! Love it!! Anyone else have cool postal marks?

Mikehealer
11-21-2016, 06:18 PM
Here are two of mine, postmarked within two days of each other.

http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/cardsforsale/websize/Cubs%20PC%20heritage%20auction%20-%20Copy.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/cardsforsale/websize/_%20in%20shield%20Cubs%20Team%20reverse.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/cardsforsale/websize/Detroit%20Tigers%20Postcard.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/cardsforsale/websize/Detroit%20Tigers%20Postcard%20reverse.jpg

Baseball Rarities
11-21-2016, 07:19 PM
Great thread. Even though a postmark may lower the technical grade of a postcard, I think that they can really add to its over desirability. I certainly would pay a premium for a postcard with a signifcant postmark that helps tell its story.

This one has a Boston postmark from October 11, 1915, the third game of the World Series, which was the first game that was played in Boston. Dutch Leonard out-pitched Grover Alexander 2-1 and the Red Sox took the Series lead two games to one.

I wonder if this postcard was purchased at the game?

wondo
11-21-2016, 08:23 PM
The World Series connection to the above cards is amazing! Were these sold at the stadiums? That makes sense. I checked the Tigers schedule for 1907 and they beat the Highlander's in New York 1-0 that day, so my card was not bought that day.

Al C.risafulli
11-21-2016, 09:46 PM
Such GREAT cards. I love postcards with postal use. Way more than without, actually.

Thanks for sharing!

-Al

Exhibitman
11-22-2016, 04:18 AM
So true. I love how it pins down the date and provenance of the card. Even better when they are signed. I have a 1953 Satchel Paige team issue from St. Louis, a 1957 Don Drysdale with a Brooklyn postmark and a Koufax postmarked from Los Angeles in 1966.

Michael Peich
11-22-2016, 08:08 AM
Good thread. Here is one of my favorite postcard series (Grignon), and postal dated cards--October 12, 1907, the day the Cubs beat Detroit and Cobb to win the 1907 World Series in game five before 7,370 fans at Bennett Park in Detroit. Cobb had a single and was caught stealing. Mordecai Brown won the game defeating George Mullin for Mullin's second loss of the series. Interestingly, Mullin won 20 games and lost 20 that season with a 2.59 ERA.

The comment on the front of the card is wonderful, and at one point a previous owner attributed the note to the Cubs' Frank Schulte. I don't think it's his hand-writing, though.

It is a cool period piece from the final day of the 1907 season.

Cheers,
Mike

Paul S
11-22-2016, 08:35 AM
^^Spotted Tigers? Indeed!;)^^

Kawika
11-22-2016, 09:20 AM
Love used postcards with baseball content, fountain pen writing and old-fashioned penmanship, postmarks a bonus. Here's a random assortment of scans hiding at the bottom of my computer, some of which meet the criteria.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/ex1906%20ChiSox%20pc.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/Red%20Belt%20Hit%20and%20Run.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/1908%20Cubs%20pc%20Brown1.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/1908%20Cubs%20pc%20Brown23.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/1908%20Cubs%20pc%20Tinker1.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/1908%20Cubs%20pc%20Tinker23.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/DMcD991.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/DMcD992.jpg

This Ullman was mailed to the sister of Christy Mathewson. I believe it might have been sent by brother Henry but haven't sleuthed it out enough to be sure.
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/Ullman%20Fitzgerald1.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/Ullman%20Fitzgerald2.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/Forbes%20Field%201911%20pc.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/Forbes%20Field%201911%20pc2.jpg

slidekellyslide
11-22-2016, 09:31 AM
Nevermind...saw my answer right above the postcard. Didn't even notice it earlier.

Jobu
11-22-2016, 09:47 AM
This is a great thread.

One of my favorite things about these old used PCs is my amazement that they ever reached their intended recipients given the simplicity with which they were addressed.

bnorth
11-22-2016, 10:29 AM
Had to buy this one as soon as I noticed the name on the back.

Michael Peich
11-22-2016, 11:07 AM
David--As usual, spectacular examples from your collection.

Cheers, Mike

btcarfagno
11-22-2016, 11:18 AM
Postmarks are tremendous, on postcards or GPC's. Dating the card to an important year or event can be so awesome. I had a signed GPC from Don Drysdale which was postmarked on the date of his first major league appearance. Stuff like that is just so cool.

Tom C

h2oya311
11-22-2016, 11:24 AM
I was thrilled when I found this Jim Bunning JD McCarthy PC w/ a date stamp of 1955, two years prior to his Topps "rookie" issuance and only a month after his major league debut:

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1955%20Bunning.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/personal/websize/1955%20Bunning%20_back_.jpg

Zach Wheat
11-22-2016, 02:42 PM
Great thread. Even though a postmark may lower the technical grade of a postcard, I think that they really add to it. I certainly would pay a premium for a postcard with a "desirable" postmark that helps tell its story.

This one has a Boston postmark from October 11, 1915, the third game of the World Series, which was the first game that was played in Boston. Dutch Leonard out-pitched Grover Alexander 2-1 and the Red Sox took the Series lead two games to one.

I wonder if this postcard was purchased at the game?

Interesting story....agree this adds something to the overall card.

Z

seattlerainiers
11-23-2016, 09:31 AM
Love the postally-used PCs with baseball content, particularly if they are to and/or from a team member.

The 1909 Seattle Turks Northwestern League card was sent from future major leaguer Lee Magee, and references the championship medal presented to the players by the mayor of Seattle at the game that day. I'm lucky to have one of those championship medals, and have included pics.

Magee was later banned from baseball, a precursor to the Black Sox scandal. It's a lesser known but interesting gambling story from that infamous era, and not surprisingly, involves Magee's teammate Hal Chase.

The 1909 SF Seals card was sent from J Cal Ewing, on of the original founders of the Pacific Coast League, and an early owner of the Seals.

2dueces
11-23-2016, 10:35 AM
All my postcards have been mailed and I have about 100 baseball and the same Cobb as you. Seriously who really cares what the back looks like? Unless you're really OCD.

wondo
11-24-2016, 09:47 PM
All my postcards have been mailed and I have about 100 baseball and the same Cobb as you. Seriously who really cares what the back looks like? Unless you're really OCD.

I really care about what the back looks like - more importantly what's going on the reverse. It's the history that makes the post card exceptional . The day of the World Series game, the early date of a HOFs career, my birthday, etc. it makes the piece more than a card. It's something we can identify at a different level.

Bicem
11-24-2016, 11:49 PM
Think Joe meant condition wise.

Buythatcard
11-25-2016, 09:21 AM
I love the vintage postmarked cards. Always got a kick out of the addresses. It would contain only the person's name, city and state. How it ever got delivered to the correct address is beyond me.

wondo
11-25-2016, 12:17 PM
Think Joe meant condition wise.

Of course he did! :D

Leon
11-27-2016, 05:59 PM
I love postmarked postcards and if they have a message all the better.
I thought this was a great postcard from the collection sold a year ago. The sender of this PC said they saw Cobb play in the first game there (April 20, 1912). Supposedly he stole home for the first run in the stadium. This card is postmarked April 22nd, 1912.
http://luckeycards.com/ppcunc1912cobbwithbat2.jpg

jerrys
11-27-2016, 08:45 PM
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Bicem
11-30-2016, 01:05 PM
April 10th, 1914 incident between Johnny Evers and the Senators...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/1914%20Evers%20vs%20Ainsmith.jpg

details about the fight below...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/Evers%20and%20Ainsmith%20fight%202.jpg

postcard also later sent to shortstop George McBride (who has his arms folded) and mentions other Senators as well...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/1915%20Evers%20vs%20Griffith%20back.jpg

Jobu
11-30-2016, 01:25 PM
Wow Jeff! I LOVE that PC!!!

April 10th, 1914 incident between Johnny Evers and the Senators...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/1915%20Evers%20vs%20Griffith.jpg

details about the fight below...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/Evers%20and%20Ainsmith%20fight.jpg

postcard also later sent to shortstop George McBride (who has his arms folded) and mentions other Senators as well...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/1915%20Evers%20vs%20Griffith%20back.jpg

VintageBall
11-30-2016, 01:29 PM
Awesome PC.

The tall guy is Gowdy with the Braves, by the way (to the right of Evers).

By the way, this just makes it as Type 1 :) The negative is from April 1914, but the print is from November 1915...!

benchod
11-30-2016, 06:48 PM
That's a great postcard, Jeff with a fascinating backstory.
How did you piece it all together?

ValKehl
11-30-2016, 08:23 PM
Jeff, that is an amazing PC - the sort of item that makes pre-War collecting so interesting.

Leon
12-03-2016, 07:21 PM
Late to the party but cool PC...

April 10th, 1914 incident between Johnny Evers and the Senators...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/1914%20Evers%20vs%20Ainsmith.jpg

details about the fight below...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/Evers%20and%20Ainsmith%20fight%202.jpg

postcard also later sent to shortstop George McBride (who has his arms folded) and mentions other Senators as well...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/1915%20Evers%20vs%20Griffith%20back.jpg

milkit1
12-03-2016, 07:53 PM
This might be the most awesome baseball photo of all time! Graig Kreindler needs to paint this pronto!


April 10th, 1914 incident between Johnny Evers and the Senators...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/1914%20Evers%20vs%20Ainsmith.jpg

details about the fight below...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/Evers%20and%20Ainsmith%20fight%202.jpg

postcard also later sent to shortstop George McBride (who has his arms folded) and mentions other Senators as well...

http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/eversvsainsmith/1915%20Evers%20vs%20Griffith%20back.jpg

Bicem
12-03-2016, 07:58 PM
Late to the party but cool PC...


Fashionably late.

T206Jim
12-04-2016, 08:35 AM
It only took 108 years to prove the sender correct!