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Leon
11-20-2016, 07:09 AM
Just curious of folks thoughts on this one...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1880s-Baseball-Cabinet-card-CARR-Artist-Franklin-Massachusetts-OLD-JUDGE-ERA-/152324928421?hash=item237745f3a5:g:MQcAAOSwcUBYMZn r

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Aquarian Sports Cards
11-20-2016, 07:22 AM
I'm voting Jockey. Pants make no sense for baseball or what I've seen in the period, and boots look like jockey boots. Flat bottomed, thin boots as these appear to be have been jockey style boots for a VERY long time. Though they are a little low.

http://4imgs.com/1057/sys/prod/4931_3_0_0.JPG

Hat and pants also look like good matches.

here's one with lower style boots.

https://d2bzigf9wlkj42.cloudfront.net/item_images/images/000/063/841/large/8980-024158743220141209-16079-wgmpd8.jpg?1418136368

and another with pretty good matches.

https://ebth-14fa.kxcdn.com/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTUvMTAvMjAvMjMvMTIvNTYvNTUwL0ZpbGU3Mi 5qcGciXSxbInAiLCJ0aHVtYiIsIjc4MXg4NTVcdTAwM2UiXV0/File72.jpg

hard to find photos though.

Uniform just looks too form-fitting and flimsy which describes Jockey attire as opposed to 19th century baseball attire:

http://www.vintagesportsmemorabiliacollector.com/file/141261508674_1.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HoaAs5-FLJc/UTMSNly9N8I/AAAAAAACeL8/qORHAX9VViw/s1600/Posed+Portraits+of+19th+Century+Baseball+Stars+(6) .jpg

http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/dick-mcbride-1874.jpg

I've been wrong before, and I might even be wrong again someday :)

bgar3
11-20-2016, 08:33 AM
More likely baseball than jockey in my opinion. I have some experience with older jockey images and the belt, boots and outfit are wrong. The cap is also not typical.

david_l
11-20-2016, 09:18 AM
I thought jockey too before I saw any of the replies.

khkco4bls
11-20-2016, 09:32 AM
Most definitely baseball. Shoes, belt, lace up jersey,and hat all fit IMO..

Sean
11-20-2016, 11:02 AM
My first thought was also jockey.

bgar3
11-20-2016, 11:23 AM
I would expect jockey boots to be like the ones in the color images, which are not lower style, but are in fact longer boots of different color tops and bottoms. Most importantly, I would also expect jockeys' silks to be colored since that is how the owner is identified. Solid colors are usually restricted. The cap is the only item that resembles an item of jockey apparel, and that is not quite right in my opinion.
I too may be wrong and this may not be a baseball player, but I am fairly sure it is not a jockey.
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vintagesportscollector
11-20-2016, 08:24 PM
Possibly baseball...

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vintagesportscollector
11-20-2016, 08:25 PM
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NiceDocter
11-20-2016, 08:29 PM
Either way the guy looks like he has a bad attitude. Jus sayin.

ramram
11-20-2016, 09:30 PM
Baseball Jockey.

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conor912
11-21-2016, 09:02 AM
My philosophy....If you have ask, then no.