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gnaz01
10-24-2016, 05:44 AM
Anyone catch the season opener yesterday??? OMG, just stunned but damn that Negan is badass.........

irv
10-24-2016, 06:26 AM
Anyone catch the season opener yesterday??? OMG, just stunned but damn that Negan is badass.........

Going to watch it tonight. My wife tapes it so we can skip through the commercials.
Not watching it on Sunday night is tough but with work and my son's school the next morning, watching it the next night much earlier is the better choice for us.

1952boyntoncollector
10-24-2016, 11:07 AM
Going to watch it tonight. My wife tapes it so we can skip through the commercials.
Not watching it on Sunday night is tough but with work and my son's school the next morning, watching it the next night much earlier is the better choice for us.

i like taping it too, however i hate it when i borrow someone elses tape because i have to be kind and rewind..

tschock
10-24-2016, 12:05 PM
Anyone catch the season opener yesterday??? OMG, just stunned but damn that Negan is badass.........

Yep. Always interesting to wonder when and where Kirkman will deviate from the comic. Last night was 'interesting' in that regard.

tschock
10-24-2016, 12:06 PM
Going to watch it tonight. My wife tapes it so we can skip through the commercials.
Not watching it on Sunday night is tough but with work and my son's school the next morning, watching it the next night much earlier is the better choice for us.

We usually DVR it and start watching about 20 minutes in. That way we can skip commercials and still finish about the same time. :)

EvilKing00
10-24-2016, 12:29 PM
Yea its was insane!

irv
10-24-2016, 03:54 PM
i like taping it too, however i hate it when i borrow someone elses tape because i have to be kind and rewind..

PVR, not tape. Just old lingo on my part

Yea its was insane!

It was a bit over the top for me, wasn't expecting that at all!!!! :eek:

I have seen plenty movies/shows but don't recall seeing anything that graphic before.
If that continues throughout the season, I think I'll be watching something else from now on.
Maybe it's the love, so to speak, I had for the characters, I don't know, but that was disturbing,,,,, for me anyways.

dgo71
10-24-2016, 10:41 PM
I keep hearing people say it was too graphic and I can only guess that is because of who the violence happened to. After all, this is a show that's shown cannibalism, ritualistic dismemberment, characters covering themselves in entrails, beheading, throats slit (heck, Rick even ripped one guys throat out with his teeth), a child murdering her own little sister, characters bled out to be used as food, a character having his own leg eaten in front of him, etc., etc., etc. All this aside from the obvious fact that dead people are walking around eating the living, which in itself should be gruesome enough for most. Gore and violence is nothing new to this show, so the only thing that makes the "too graphic" reaction make sense was the emotional impact it had because of who the character was we were watching. I thought it was a fantastic episode and set the tone for what the show will be going forward. It's going to be very different from seasons past.

irv
10-25-2016, 06:35 AM
I keep hearing people say it was too graphic and I can only guess that is because of who the violence happened to. After all, this is a show that's shown cannibalism, ritualistic dismemberment, characters covering themselves in entrails, beheading, throats slit (heck, Rick even ripped one guys throat out with his teeth), a child murdering her own little sister, characters bled out to be used as food, a character having his own leg eaten in front of him, etc., etc., etc. All this aside from the obvious fact that dead people are walking around eating the living, which in itself should be gruesome enough for most. Gore and violence is nothing new to this show, so the only thing that makes the "too graphic" reaction make sense was the emotional impact it had because of who the character was we were watching. I thought it was a fantastic episode and set the tone for what the show will be going forward. It's going to be very different from seasons past.

I understand what you are saying but what you mentioned wasn't displayed, so to speak, in the same graphic manner as what was shown Sunday night.
It was taken to a whole new graphic level imo, especially the Glen scene.

Watching Glen get his head bashed in with a baseball bat then showing him with his eye popped out and trying to speak was a little over the top and unnecessary, imo.

dgo71
10-25-2016, 10:59 AM
I don't know, they did show Bob getting his leg eaten, the trough scene was pretty graphic, the wolves hacking people up in the streets, Noah getting his face ripped off in pretty graphic detail... I guess because I've read the comic I can appreciate how close they stuck to the source material. It's a violent, post-apocalyptic world, I don't see why they should have to water it down for the squeamish. I can totally see how it's not for everyone but I figured those viewers would've bowed out before now.

EvilKing00
10-25-2016, 11:14 AM
Funny thing to me is, its not about zombies or graphic voilence. Imo its about how a group of mostly strangers become family and how they survive in an insane post apocalyptic world.

1952boyntoncollector
10-25-2016, 11:36 AM
Funny thing to me is, its not about zombies or graphic voilence. Imo its about how a group of mostly strangers become family and how they survive in an insane post apocalyptic world.

Thats how it was, but its becoming more about graphic violence and less about character development but heck thats hard to do after many many seasons..

by the way anyone watch 'The Strain', i like that show more

irv
10-25-2016, 11:40 AM
I don't know, they did show Bob getting his leg eaten, the trough scene was pretty graphic, the wolves hacking people up in the streets, Noah getting his face ripped off in pretty graphic detail... I guess because I've read the comic I can appreciate how close they stuck to the source material. It's a violent, post-apocalyptic world, I don't see why they should have to water it down for the squeamish. I can totally see how it's not for everyone but I figured those viewers would've bowed out before now.

I agree, I just don't ever recall seeing anyone getting their skull smashed in with a baseball bat before and the aftermath with Glen trying to speak with his eye protruding/bulging from his skull.

There has been a lot of graphic scenes throughout, but like I mentioned previously, none were quite like Sunday night's episode, imo.

Jantz
10-25-2016, 12:42 PM
A local newspaper reported that some episodes were going to be filmed in a city about 25 minutes from my hometown. After that initial report, it seems not another word was heard about the subject. Total secrecy.

I'm curious if any of this season's episodes were the episodes filmed near my hometown.

I haven't seen any zombies, so who knows.

D. Bergin
10-25-2016, 01:04 PM
I'm far from a prude when it comes to these sorts of things, but I thought that was some torture porn nonsense, waaaaaaaay too dragged out.

As if the world wasn't bleak enough already.

I think it will be an uphill climb for me to find the show compelling for much longer.

dgo71
10-25-2016, 05:59 PM
I agree, I just don't ever recall seeing anyone getting their skull smashed in with a baseball bat before and the aftermath with Glen trying to speak with his eye protruding/bulging from his skull.

There has been a lot of graphic scenes throughout, but like I mentioned previously, none were quite like Sunday night's episode, imo.

Again, it sure sounds like this is because it happened to a character people cared about. From a violence standpoint it just doesn't seem any better or worse than a lot of the deaths. JMO, everyone sees this differently I suppose.

Regardless, I wish more people recognized this is a story about Rick, not about Glenn or his death. The episode was about breaking Rick down to nothing, and that sheer look of terror in his eyes at the end disturbed me more than the death scenes. I guess because I expected the bat scene to be gruesome but didn't expect to see Rick reduced to a blubbering, cowering mess.

chaddurbin
10-25-2016, 08:11 PM
how long can these walking deads meander from one location to another beating up the bad guy? they try to shock the viewers but the formula is getting old...anybody think rick is actually in danger at any time? also completely stopped watching FTWD.

it went from must watch sunday night tv to now on a queue in the dvr...i still have westworld and brooklyn 99 to go thru.

Prof_Plum
10-26-2016, 07:29 AM
Agree with others that, while perhaps understandable with the show's theme, the last episode's gruesomeness was a bit over the top. Clearly you do not want to become close with Maggie (Glenn, Hershel and Beth).

1952boyntoncollector
10-26-2016, 08:41 AM
Agree with others that, while perhaps understandable with the show's theme, the last episode's gruesomeness was a bit over the top. Clearly you do not want to become close with Maggie (Glenn, Hershel and Beth).

There are worse atrocities going on right now in the real world in how people are being killed and the reason, i wish as many people cared about that as they do about how some fictional character, fictitiously died.

D. Bergin
10-26-2016, 08:53 AM
There are worse atrocities going on right now in the real world in how people are being killed and the reason, i wish as many people cared about that as they do about how some fictional character, fictitiously died.


Thanks for being our moral compass Jake. :rolleyes:

Prof_Plum
10-27-2016, 07:51 AM
Agree with others that, while perhaps understandable with the show's theme, the last episode's gruesomeness was a bit over the top. Clearly you do not want to become close with Maggie (Glenn, Hershel and Beth).
There are worse atrocities going on right now in the real world in how people are being killed and the reason, i wish as many people cared about that as they do about how some fictional character, fictitiously died.
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packs
10-28-2016, 09:24 AM
My issue with this show is that there is a wealth of material to pull from when one world collapses and another has the opportunity to be built. However, this show is constantly about how one group of people are bad, so they leave, and then another group of people are bad too. Who cares?! Do something with your material. The world and society has crumbled. Can't we see a new and different world rise in its place? Or fall in its place? I already know people are bad. They're terrible in today's world. If your message is people will never change, that is a very dull observation.

D. Bergin
10-28-2016, 11:45 AM
My issue with this show is that there is a wealth of material to pull from when one world collapses and another has the opportunity to be built. However, this show is constantly about how one group of people are bad, so they leave, and then another group of people are bad too. Who cares?! Do something with your material. The world and society has crumbled. Can't we see a new and different world rise in its place? Or fall in its place? I already know people are bad. They're terrible in today's world. If your message is people will never change, that is a very dull observation.


Agree with all of this. It getting old and veering off into an extended scene of torture porn does not all of a sudden make it any fresher.

I've been telling people for years that Rick and his crew are the real bad guys in the show.

I chuckle to myself and imagine a universe in which everybody else is fine. They are building a new life for themselves, a new world for themselves........................until Rick's crew eventually shows up, and everything goes to sh*t.

:D

packs
10-28-2016, 01:20 PM
I don't know if they're the bad guys. But it is consistently dull to have the end result of them finding another settlement to be "this settlement is BAD!" Humans are awful at their basest level, sure. But what else? Why would I find that observation interesting when I live in a world dominated by hysteria news channels promoting scary violence?