Help on babe ruth / joe d

[EvilKing00]

Hey guys,

Picked this up a few days ago. Was listed as a 1930's penny arcade card. Just wondering if anyone can confirm this or has any other info on it. Of if anyone else has one, Or if its a fantasy piece. I have never seen one like this and the reasrarch i did only brought up the same exact piece on worth point, saying the same 1930's penny arcade. Any info at all would be helpeful. Didnt pay much for it, so if i got robbed no worries. Thanks in advance.


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[ullmandds]

seeing as I've never seen this type of card...combined with joe d and babe ruth on the same strip I'd guess its fantasy.

[GasHouseGang]

Is it on a thicker cardboard? It kind of looks like it was cut off of something else.

[EvilKing00]

Is it on a thicker cardboard? It kind of looks like it was cut off of something else.

Yes its thicker than a notmal card. I was thinking maybe some kind of either giveaway or , gumball prize where u put a penny in a machine and the card comes out? Cards Made by this specific penny arcade but that was my guess.

[EvilKing00]

Also i searched the address and it is a commercial address in ohio but didnt find any proof it was an arcade in the 30's

[EvilKing00]

was hoping someone else had one :(

[Leon]

I have collected odd ball cards and related stuff for a while and to me it looks like it was cut off of something, maybe the box the toy/arcade came in? It is also a guess that it could be some sort of early commemorative piece? I think it is later than the 1930s, just from the look of it. And lastly, I also think there is a chance it is a fantasy piece (not real but made to look real).....The fact we have never seen one is a yellow, but not red, flag to me.

[abroome]

Based on the other 2 cards the seller is currently selling, I would say fantasy is a strong probability.
The 2 cards in active auction have typeface, or font and a location format on reverse that would most likely not have been used in the 30s, 40s, 50s.
Of course, not having any of the pieces in hand keeps from knowing 100%.

The Ruth "Maple Drive Dairy" tag that was listed used the exact same modern text on reverse. Also interesting to note the mocked up dairy calendar the seller is also selling. The calendar looks nothing like a period advertising calendar and is made up of odd elements.
Who would have used black and white images on an advertising calendar?

I know that doesn't give much more info on the "penny arcade" cards, but more guilt by association I guess.

[Leon]

There are a few places I have seen black and white players used in advertising...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1930-039-s-Framed-Baseball-Punch-Board-w-DiMaggio-Foxx-Ott-Greenberg-NM-MT-/381782789696?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=yLNOOKtAwHp5EWFB5NlASJVYDDM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

that being said I agree with your assessment and am more leaning towards fantasy piece now....



Based on the other 2 cards the seller is currently selling, I would say fantasy is a strong probability.
The 2 cards in active auction have typeface, or font and a location format on reverse that would most likely not have been used in the 30s, 40s, 50s.
Of course, not having any of the pieces in hand keeps from knowing 100%.

The Ruth "Maple Drive Dairy" tag that was listed used the exact same modern text on reverse. Also interesting to note the mocked up dairy calendar the seller is also selling. The calendar looks nothing like a period advertising calendar and is made up of odd elements.
Who would have used black and white images on an advertising calendar?

I know that doesn't give much more info on the "penny arcade" cards, but more guilt by association I guess.

[ctownboy]

The seller is also from Ohio......

David

[packs]

If not a fantasy piece my guess is it was cut from a larger advertisement that probably featured a number of players and perhaps this section was cut because Ruth and DiMaggio were above each other.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

With your statement that it is extra thick is there any chance it's newsprint glued to cardboard? The quality of the images looks very newspaper-y

[EvilKing00]

Thanks for all the info and advice guys, i did find out at 617vine st in cincy ohio there was an enquirer building built in 1926, if its a fantasy piece thats a odd thing to reasearch and put on this piece, On the "card" it gives a 617 address for the penny arcade and says "right actoss street from enquirer building" but ill keep researching

[EvilKing00]

With your statement that it is extra thick is there any chance it's newsprint glued to cardboard? The quality of the images looks very newspaper-y

I dont think so but ill take a closer look today and check

[EvilKing00]

Just took a much closer look, and its not a newspaper glued to the cardboard.

the stock is thick, the suggestion was that it was some sort of "prize" u get for a penny in a penny machine. but I have no idea - it does look like it was cut from something else but i did find this link with with same card type diff players



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http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1930s-cent-penny-arcade-card-baseball-1757924055

something else interesting i didnt notice, ctownboy posted it, is that said seller is from ohio

[EvilKing00]

just found one more piece of info.

The The Cincinnati Enquirer, Sunday, January 18, 1942 - wrote an article / ad -

"Beginning Tuesday and continuing for three days, William Powell and Myrna Loy will be seen in "The Shadow of the Thin Man." PLAYLAND PENNY ARCADE 624 Vine St."


Now its not the same address on the card - 640, but , 624 id guess is an attached building that the arcade also occupied, with a separate entrance - where id guess they did some sort of shows.

So id have to assume - this, Playland penny arcade did once exist, on vine street in cincy.


Found this image - online too - not related to the penny arcade performance but that these actors did this show
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Source - https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/103213471/

[JollyElm]

A bit OT, but what the heck…
'The Thin Man' movies were wildly popular back in the day. Nick and Nora Charles with their dog Asta (whose name is a frequent answer in crossword puzzles).

[EvilKing00]

A bit OT, but what the heck…
'The Thin Man' movies were wildly popular back in the day. Nick and Nora Charles with their dog Asta (whose name is a frequent answer in crossword puzzles).

I never heard of them, but seems they did a bunch of movies and shows

[Leon]

I am still leaning to fantasy piece on this one. As stated, if this were an advertisement those crude photos probably wouldn't have been used.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I never heard of them, but seems they did a bunch of movies and shows

They were also spoofed by David Niven and Maggie Smith in Neil Simon's "Murder By Death" possibly the most amazing movie cast in history.

[EvilKing00]

did anyone here win this on ebay?

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just wondering if you have any info on it as i have a simalar one from the same seller - (the 1st post in this thread)

According to seller his uncle owned the penny arcade machines that were in the store.

[Gocats09]

I recently saw one with DiMaggio and Dean. Curious if we ever reached a consensus. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1930s-Penny-Arcade-Baseball-Card-Joe-Di-Maggio-and-Dizzy-Dean-/124684600475?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286

[packs]

Those images look pretty washed out and reproduced to me. I wouldn't buy this thinking it was period.

[Bill77]

With the 4 examples known so far 2 things stand out as either truly amazing or odd. 1 all 6 players are hall of famers, and 2 for a set promoting a business in Cincinnati why no Reds players? I know it is a small sample size but it is hard to believe that a card set would be 6 for 6 with hall of famers. If the set is from the 30's the earliest year for DiMaggio would be 1936, and it would be odd to have 2 different DiMaggio's in his rookie year.

[MrStewart]

Here’s the ones I have