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Snapolit1
10-14-2016, 01:12 PM
What has the experience been when one of the huge non-sports auction places runs a large baseball auction like the one Christies is doing now? Does everything go off at stupid prices (plus a sweet buyers 25% commission)? Is it possible to find some decent deals around the edges that aren't at record setting prices? Interesting auction but I'm guessing insane price inflation by the time its all done.

gnaz01
10-14-2016, 01:52 PM
Christies isn't new to sports auctions, they just haven't done one in quite a while....

Snapolit1
10-14-2016, 01:56 PM
I understand that, but what I am trying to get it is Christie's is going to pull in a far more diverse (well heeled) audience than a sports auction house. Their auction was written up today in the Wall Street Journal for example. Does that translate to huge crowds of bidders and runaway prices?

rjackson44
10-14-2016, 02:00 PM
Bid on what you can afford.this auction has no bargains.and it never will .good luck.

bigfish
10-14-2016, 02:20 PM
I understand that, but what I am trying to get it is Christie's is going to pull in a far more diverse (well heeled) audience than a sports auction house. Their auction was written up today in the Wall Street Journal for example. Does that translate to huge crowds of bidders and runaway prices?

I am not good at predicting the future but I would assume that great material brings in great prices regardless of the venue.

Klrdds
10-14-2016, 02:42 PM
I participated in the last major Christie's auction back in 1998 of the Joe Jackson estate. I picked up a Joe Jackson signed document in that auction. A few years later Christie's was hit with a class action law suit for excessive fees in that auction primarily and I received a large settlement . That being said this auction is going to bring out many heavy hitters , and Christie's is going to be very careful not to get into another class action lawsuit . They require a credit card to participate and will charge your card for the winnings unless prior arrangements can be made and to weed out non-serious bidders. I have already talked to my bank concerning a credit line for this auction and i would make sound financial arrangements well before the auction because this auction will bring out many heavy hitters with deep pockets and some are not collectors but investors with money to burn for themselves or for their clients. I am aware of some bidders willing to go well into 6 figures for items.
My advice is to prep well for this auction and pick out several items to bid on and set limits because their fees are high also.
i feel that this auction is not for the hesitant bidder or novice collector....IT IS A BIG AUCTION packed with museum quality material and the clientele/bidders will emphasize that .

BeanTown
10-14-2016, 03:14 PM
What ever happened to the term "it might be to rare for its own good". Sounds from the above post that Christies will have different bidders/investors that will pay what they deem "market value" is. Let's hope that all these new buyers don't find out about all the other auction houses which come up with tremendous items each year.

Snapolit1
10-14-2016, 03:28 PM
I participated in the last major Christie's auction back in 1998 of the Joe Jackson estate. I picked up a Joe Jackson signed document in that auction. A few years later Christie's was hit with a class action law suit for excessive fees in that auction primarily and I received a large settlement . That being said this auction is going to bring out many heavy hitters , and Christie's is going to be very careful not to get into another class action lawsuit . They require a credit card to participate and will charge your card for the winnings unless prior arrangements can be made and to weed out non-serious bidders. I have already talked to my bank concerning a credit line for this auction and i would make sound financial arrangements well before the auction because this auction will bring out many heavy hitters with deep pockets and some are not collectors but investors with money to burn for themselves or for their clients. I am aware of some bidders willing to go well into 6 figures for items.
My advice is to prep well for this auction and pick out several items to bid on and set limits because their fees are high also.
i feel that this auction is not for the hesitant bidder or novice collector....IT IS A BIG AUCTION packed with museum quality material and the clientele/bidders will emphasize that .

Thanks. Sort of what I expected.

irv
10-14-2016, 04:03 PM
Thanks. Sort of what I expected.

Same.

It's way out of my league but I am looking forward to seeing the winning bids.

Is there anyway to watch/look at the proceedings while it's under way?

prestigecollectibles
10-14-2016, 05:00 PM
In 2007 Sotheby's had their Important Sports Memorabilia and Cards auction.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2007/important-sports-memorabilia-and-cards-n08385.html

irv
10-14-2016, 10:36 PM
In 2007 Sotheby's had their Important Sports Memorabilia and Cards auction.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2007/important-sports-memorabilia-and-cards-n08385.html

Looking at these sets from back then, I'd say some people have a pretty good ROI if they were the lucky winners.

(Use arrows to go back or ahead to different years/sets)
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2007/important-sports-memorabilia-and-cards-n08385/lot.333.html

Snapolit1
10-14-2016, 10:49 PM
Think you catch watch it live over the internet if you register.

(Can always register and not bid of course.)

Leon
10-15-2016, 08:44 AM
yeap...

What ever happened to the term "it might be to rare for its own good". Sounds from the above post that Christies will have different bidders/investors that will pay what they deem "market value" is. Let's hope that all these new buyers don't find out about all the other auction houses which come up with tremendous items each year.

irv
10-15-2016, 09:15 AM
Think you catch watch it live over the internet if you register.

(Can always register and not bid of course.)

I think I will just try to watch/look without signing up if I can?

I briefly read their Privacy Policy, and although it may be like most, I didn't like what I read about the sharing of information. Not that I am worldly by any stretch of the imagination, but less e-mails, spam and annoying 3rd party phone calls sounds good to me!

http://www.christies.com/salelanding/index.aspx?intsaleid=26565&pid=en_homepage_row1_slot1_6&saletitle=

Leon
10-17-2016, 01:41 PM
I am going to try to at least watch too....doubt I will bid.


I think I will just try to watch/look without signing up if I can?

I briefly read their Privacy Policy, and although it may be like most, I didn't like what I read about the sharing of information. Not that I am worldly by any stretch of the imagination, but less e-mails, spam and annoying 3rd party phone calls sounds good to me!

http://www.christies.com/salelanding/index.aspx?intsaleid=26565&pid=en_homepage_row1_slot1_6&saletitle=

drcy
10-17-2016, 01:48 PM
Sotheby's used to do regular sports auctions, as part of their collectables department, but they quit a few years ago.

Old baseball does not have the widespread appeal of, say, a Marilyn Monroe auction, so I wouldn't expect that Christies does it to effect he prices much if at all.

If you see Sotheby's and Christies other auctions and total sales, you will see that a Mastro or REA auction is small potatoes for them.

Baseball Rarities
10-17-2016, 10:24 PM
Old baseball does not have the widespread appeal of, say, a Marilyn Monroe auction, so I wouldn't expect that Christies does it to effect he prices much if at all.

I do not think that either Sotheby's or Christies do these auctions for the revenue. They get a lot of publicity for sports sales. The Sotheby's Copeland and Halper sales featured two of their highest selling catalogs ever and the catalog for the current Christie's sale is already sold out.

They look at it as a form or advertising.

drcy
10-18-2016, 01:55 PM
King Kelly ain't no Greta Garbo.