1948 Leaf Ted Williams PSA 6 Ghost Image

[VintageBen]

Would the ghost image be considered rare or not??? I love this card. I just haven't seen too many of them like this.

[sycks22]

48 Leafs are notorious for having the coloring background not match up with the card. I had a '48 Leaf Williams last year that was pretty far off like yours. Still a cool looking card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2006/353.html

I think Rob may have been looking at a different card when he wrote up the description of this one as focused. :D

[JustinD]

That is not a ghost, but the term seems to be one of the most misunderstood in the hobby.

A ghost is an different image visible on the card. Often caused by a color transfer when stacking wet sheets during printing, a light print from the printing cylinder hitting the card or more rarely an additional print pass by mistake.

What you have is a printing error caused by the sheet moving during a color pass. These are called a registration error, color shift, offset error or other terms. These have far less value normally than a ghost to error collectors. A shift really needs to be drastic or add to the beauty of the card to draw error collectors or often they actually devalue the card as it just looks blurry.

[Leon]

Agree on the color shift theory. Overall I think cards like this are scarce as I would imagine most got culled out on mfg.

Here are examples of color shifts on 2 pre-wwII cards too :) and a few other regular E145s (not mine)

http://luckeycards.com/pe1452masterfinal4x.jpg

[bobbyw8469]

Would the ghost image be considered rare or not??? I love this card. I just haven't seen too many of them like this.

Not rare, and in my humble opinion, would be worth LESS than average, not more, since the eye appeal is so horrible on it.

[bnorth]

Not rare, and in my humble opinion, would be worth LESS than average, not more, since the eye appeal is so horrible on it.

Some of us weird touched in the head collectors do pay a premium for print offset cards. Usually the offset has to be bigger than the Ted Williams shown to get that premium.

Here is my favorite PreWWII print offset.

[Leon]

Not rare, and in my humble opinion, would be worth LESS than average, not more, since the eye appeal is so horrible on it.

I paid a little more for those CJs when I owned them and was happy to do it. They were in auction, as I recall.

[jcc6252]

That is not a ghost, but the term seems to be one of the most misunderstood in the hobby.

A ghost is an different image visible on the card. Often caused by a color transfer when stacking wet sheets during printing, a light print from the printing cylinder hitting the card or more rarely an additional print pass by mistake.

What you have is a printing error caused by the sheet moving during a color pass. These are called a registration error, color shift, offset error or other terms. These have far less value normally than a ghost to error collectors. A shift really needs to be drastic or add to the beauty of the card to draw error collectors or often they actually devalue the card as it just looks blurry.

I'm with Justin on this one.
To me, this is not much different than other defects, possibly worse because it detracts greatly from eye appeal. Who wants to look at a blurry card? Registration is a key attribute of a card, obviously, the sharper the better.

[tedzan]

Hey guys,

Do 1949 LEAF BB card printing flaws get any wilder than this ?

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/willjohnson.jpg
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/leafbillyjohnsonsyellow.jpg
TED Z
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[JustinD]

Hey guys,

Do 1949 LEAF BB card printing flaws get any wilder than this ?

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/willjohnson.jpg
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/leafbillyjohnsonsyellow.jpg
TED Z
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Awesome Ted!

...and to the op, that is an great example of a shift that brings a premium.