PSA Graded Auto

[carlsonjok]

I suppose this may be well known information, but I have to plead ignorance. The following card was just added to Ebay:

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/p~sAAOSw65FXv0tt/s-l1600.jpg

Auction: http://www.ebay.com/itm/381748573272?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I am used to seeing PSA slabs that note the autograph as Authentic. So the label on this card confuses me. I am guessing the grade refers to the autograph rather than the card. Is that correct? Does the fact that the autograph is graded necessarily imply that the signature is authentic?

I am wanting to bid on this, although I expect it will finish way out of my price range as the 1963 Fleer Adcock is a short print to begin with and it is a Probstein auction.

Any clarification regarding what the label means would be greatly appreciated.

[thenavarro]

It means the autograph received a grade of 8. The card itself was not graded but is an authentic 1963 Fleer card as opposed to be being a reprint or counterfeit.

[Bcwcardz]

I think the main question he has is the auto considered authentic because it received a grade? Im assuming yes but am unsure since I havent dealt with PSA since the 90s.

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[thenavarro]

I think the main question he has is the auto considered authentic because it received a grade? Im assuming yes but am unsure since I havent dealt with PSA since the 90s.

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PSA considers the autograph authentic and to be a grade of 8. I express no opinion as I don't study Joe Adcock autographs.

[mattjc1983]

It means the autograph received a grade of 8. The card itself was not graded but is an authentic 1963 Fleer card as opposed to be being a reprint or counterfeit.



Are you saying there's something on the flip indicating the card is authentic? Or that you know that from your own expertise?


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[drcy]

The flip is saying the autograph is authentic with a grade of 8 and the card is authentic but ungraded. PSA/DNA is for autographs, so the PSA/DNA certification is for the autograph. PSA/DNA wouldn't encapsulate a signature if they didn't think it was authentic.

The 1963 Fleer on the flip says they are saying it's a genuine 1963 Fleer. That's what they are labeling it as. If they thought the card itself was a reprint, the flip would list it as a reprint.

[carlsonjok]

Thank you all for your input.

At this point, I may not bother even bidding. There is one bid already. See for yourself:

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=381748573272&aid=h***h&eu=&bidtid=737580489025&view=NONE&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_None_ViewLink

Details:

30-Day Summary
Total bids: 908
Items bid on: 805
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 95%
Bid retractions: 1
Bid retractions (6 months): 4

908 bids over 30 days. 95% of which were with Probstein. I don't know about you, but that is a big old red flag to me.