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Bigb13
07-30-2016, 07:51 AM
Looks like Heritage is live
CardMD
07-30-2016, 10:11 AM
It's too painful to look at!!
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Bigb13
07-30-2016, 10:45 AM
Some beautiful stuff
iowadoc77
07-30-2016, 04:40 PM
Ho. Lee. Crap!
The high dollar market is alive and well
That T206 auto Ty Cobb
PSA 9 Hank Aaron
PSA 10 53 Mays
PSA 10 Ryan rookie.
Ridiculous.
Tennis13
07-30-2016, 09:53 PM
Amateur Question: they have an unopened 1950 Bowman pack that is Certified Authentic. What does that mean? I have only seen packs with grades on it. Does this mean the pack has been "searched" or something else?
http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-cards/unopened-packs-display-boxes/1950-bowman-baseball-1-cent-unopened-wax-pack-psa-authentic/a/7160-80319.s?ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Open-BrowseThisAuction-120115
4815162342
07-30-2016, 10:02 PM
Amateur Question: they have an unopened 1950 Bowman pack that is Certified Authentic. What does that mean? I have only seen packs with grades on it. Does this mean the pack has been "searched" or something else?
http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-cards/unopened-packs-display-boxes/1950-bowman-baseball-1-cent-unopened-wax-pack-psa-authentic/a/7160-80319.s?ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Open-BrowseThisAuction-120115
It still means it's unopened, but no numerical grade was assigned.
Tennis13
07-30-2016, 10:07 PM
It still means it's unopened, but no numerical grade was assigned.
Why would they not assign a grade?
Also, why so many Don Baylor championship rings on the block?
Seeing this auction makes me think I need to win the Lottery.....So much great looking eye candy and so much will be out of reach for us commoners..... :(
Looks like Heritage is live
Snapolit1
07-31-2016, 07:42 AM
Nice to see the Gehrig rookie Exhibit so strong out of the box. There's a card that should explode in value. Though folks on this board have been saying that for a while.
pawpawdiv9
07-31-2016, 09:56 AM
Nice to see the Gehrig rookie Exhibit so strong out of the box. There's a card that should explode in value. Though folks on this board have been saying that for a while.
That's one card I been wanting for a while too..When I saw it yesterday I WAS SHOCKED. really amazed at the 15K price already!!!!!!
pokerplyr80
07-31-2016, 10:05 AM
Looks like the Gehrig is still going. 22.7k already. Nice to see. Unfortunately it looks like a 16 Ruth will be out of reach of a PSA 2 is now a 100k plus card.
Baseball Rarities
07-31-2016, 12:57 PM
Nice to see the Gehrig rookie Exhibit so strong out of the box. There's a card that should explode in value. Though folks on this board have been saying that for a while.
Yeah, it would seem to make sense that Gehrig's rookie would follow in the heels of the M101-5/4 Ruth. They are probably comparable in rarity, in fact the Gehig might actually be a bit scarcer.
Mdmtx
07-31-2016, 01:11 PM
I love to bid early in these auctions. Then show my wife and scare her to death, when in reality, I likely have a better chance of winning powerball than winning anything at my bid levels. However, when I buy something later in the 500 to 1k range she actually feels relief and I avoid an a$$ chewing. Lol
Mark
PS - I hope I don't get caught someday as high bidder and forced to take out a second mortgage to cover purchasing something I was playing games on. Lol
I love to bid early in these auctions. Then show my wife and scare her to death, when in reality, I likely have a better chance of winning powerball than winning anything at my bid levels. However, when I buy something later in the 500 to 1k range she actually feels relief and I avoid an a$$ chewing. Lol
Mark
PS - I hope I don't get caught someday as high bidder and forced to take out a second mortgage to cover purchasing something I was playing games on. Lol
I used to do the same thing on T206 Wagners: get in an early bid around $30 -40K. People would say to me "Be careful. What if you actually win?" :eek:
And I would say "If I get a Wagner for $30K I'll come up with it somehow. And it will be the best moment of my life." :D
Yeah, it would seem to make sense that Gehrig's rookie would follow in the heels of the M101-5/4 Ruth. They are probably comparable in rarity, in fact the Gehig might actually be a bit scarcer.
I owned a raw NM-MT Gehrig, which turned out to be an SGC 6, bought from Mastro Auctions while on vacation in Mexico some 16 yrs ago. My guess is the Gehrig is somewhere closer to 10x-20x more rare than the Ruth. That's based on what I have seen, is only a guess, and your mileage may vary :).
BeanTown
07-31-2016, 06:51 PM
Leon, I remember that card and it was awesome!! Didn't an autograph version of his rookie card go for like 30k not too long ago? I completely agree with Kevin and others that the 1925 Exhibit of Gehrig is way under valued. Here is the scan of the Heritage Gehrig.
bcbgcbrcb
07-31-2016, 07:26 PM
Here was my Gehrig Exhibit RC sold in Goodwin Auction - July, 2014. Admittedly not as nice as the Heritage example but $2,400 compared to whatever this one goes for....
Unbelievable! Boy, do I know how to pick which cards to sell and which cards to hold on to.........
itjclarke
07-31-2016, 10:04 PM
Here was my Gehrig Exhibit RC sold in Goodwin Auction - July, 2014. Admittedly not as nice as the Heritage example but $2,400 compared to whatever this one goes for....
Unbelievable! Boy, do I know how to pick which cards to sell and which cards to hold on to.........
I was underbidder on a 2, sold at about $2400 right around that same time, also on Goodwin. Kicking myself hard for passing on that one. Glad to have since picked up a like pose '27 Exhibit though.
glchen
08-01-2016, 01:54 AM
One word of caution about the 1925 Exhibits Gehrig is that it is often mislabeled by the TPG's with the 1926 version which looks exactly the same, but has a bluish tint. For example, here is one that sold on ebay Link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1925-Exhibits-Lou-Gehrig-SGC-10-HOF-rookie-card-/162072107446), that looks like it is a mislabeled 1926 version due to the bluish tint. Of course, the 1926 Exhibits is actually rarer than the 1925 one.
bcbgcbrcb
08-01-2016, 07:13 AM
WOW, Gary, even if it is a '25 as labeled, a $10K sale for a card with multiple heavy creases across the entire width of the card seems crazy when mine being much nicer sold for $2,400....Geez......
glchen
08-01-2016, 10:05 AM
WOW, Gary, even if it is a '25 as labeled, a $10K sale for a card with multiple heavy creases across the entire width of the card seems crazy when mine being much nicer sold for $2,400....Geez......
Hi Phil, actually according to watchcount, this card was sold via Best Offer for "only" $5500.
pokerplyr80
08-01-2016, 10:41 AM
Here's mine. No blue tint that I can see. Hopefully it's a real '25. I have felt this card has been under valued and appreciated for quite a while. It's nice to see the market catching up. Although that Heritage card looks under graded to me.
The Nasty Nati
08-01-2016, 12:27 PM
Looks like the rarest T206 card is also listed, and no I'm not talking about the Joe Doyle. The Tinker Chicago/Cubs error variation. There's only 3 known to the hobby. I believe this is the same one that REA sold a few years ago.
http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1911-t206-sweet-caporal-joe-tinker-hands-on-knees-rare-error-variation-psa-good-25/a/7160-80155.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515
Definitely an interesting card. I think TPGs should list it as a legit variation.
rman444
08-01-2016, 01:44 PM
The photo used for the T206 Tinker.
<a href="http://s69.photobucket.com/user/rman444/media/prewar/Baseball%20Photos/Photos%20for%20Cards/DSC_0119_zpsb3a2f65f.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/rman444/prewar/Baseball%20Photos/Photos%20for%20Cards/DSC_0119_zpsb3a2f65f.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC_0119_zpsb3a2f65f.jpg"/></a>
Scocs
08-01-2016, 08:08 PM
Did you see the vast number of Ramly T204 HOFers in nm-mt condition?! No Johnson, but there's Plank, Collins, Chance, Bender -- all in PSA 8....
ullmandds
08-01-2016, 10:30 PM
i love the lot of 100 psa 9 henderson rookies!
gnaz01
08-02-2016, 06:33 PM
Have catalogs gone out as yet??
Vintageclout
08-02-2016, 07:40 PM
I owned a raw NM-MT Gehrig, which turned out to be an SGC 6, bought from Mastro Auctions while on vacation in Mexico some 16 yrs ago. My guess is the Gehrig is somewhere closer to 10x-20x more rare than the Ruth. That's based on what I have seen, is only a guess, and your mileage may vary :).
Leon - on a sheer "pop" basis (PSA & SGC), Gehrig rookie approx. 2.5X scarcer. If you take into account raw copies, I would guess 3-4X would be the number.
Leon - on a sheer "pop" basis (PSA & SGC), Gehrig rookie approx. 2.5X scarcer. If you take into account raw copies, I would guess 3-4X would be the number.
It seems like I see a lot more Ruth rookies than Gehrigs. But if the pop report says it ain't so, who am I to argue? ;)
Bigb13
08-10-2016, 08:52 AM
Catalogs should be here today. They said they were going out on Monday.
rats60
08-10-2016, 06:32 PM
Catalogs should be here today. They said they were going out on Monday.
I got mine today.
Ho. Lee. Crap!
The high dollar market is alive and well
That T206 auto Ty Cobb
PSA 9 Hank Aaron
PSA 10 53 Mays
PSA 10 Ryan rookie.
Ridiculous.
"1968 Topps Nolan Ryan - Mets Rookie Stars #177 PSA Gem Mint 10. The biggest hobby story of 2016 is the surging market for elite rookie cards, a market at which Heritage finds itself proudly leading. In the first half of 2016, we have established new high-water marks for the Mantle and Mays rookies of the 1952 Topps issue at their respective grades, and the 1955 Topps Clemente at any level. It's a raging bull market we attribute to a flood of new money in the game, a factor that we expect will propel pricing superlatives for years to come."
You bet it is a game. At some point investors cash out. It will be interesting to watch when/if the bottom falls out of this market.