Help requested - sigs on a couple of 1991 ASG balls

[baseball tourist]

A Buddy found these in Toronto and I helped him identify a few. Would appreciate any assistance confirming my guesses and the unknowns. Thanks in advance!

Ball one:

Pic #1

Tom Glavine


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Pic #2

Jim Leyland (thanks Steve!)
Rod Carew (thanks guys!)
George (Jorge) Bell
Jack McDowell (thanks "Steve D" !!)

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Pic# 3

Mike Morgan (thanks "mrmopar"!)
(a rushed) Roger Clemens (thanks guys...I see it too, now)
Sandy Alomar (thanks!)

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q612/Jays9293/Mobile%20Uploads/E7DD3A6C-C99A-449A-8AC0-1C99ABCB3D69_zpsw5uba6eq.jpg (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/Jays9293/media/Mobile%20Uploads/E7DD3A6C-C99A-449A-8AC0-1C99ABCB3D69_zpsw5uba6eq.jpg.html)

Pic #4


Sig at bottom of panel:

Felix Jose (thanks guys!)

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Pic #5


Ken Griffey Jr
Dennis Martinez (thanks "mrmopar" and "Steve D" !!)
Bret Butler (thanks "mattic1983"'and "mrmopar" !!)
Ivan Calderon (Thanks!)


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[mattjc1983]

Definitely not Rod Carew on the one. I think the sig at the top of picture 3 is Matt Williams though. And fairly sure the second from the bottom in your last pic is Brett Butler.


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[mrmopar]

i see Mike Morgan (3), possibly Felix Jose (4) and Brett Butler (?) & Dennis Martinez (5).

[mattjc1983]

i see Mike Morgan (3), possibly Felix Jose (4) and Brett Butler (?) & Dennis Martinez (5).



Yep, Mike Morgan, not Matt Williams; good call.

[Steve D]

The top signature in #3 looks like Matt Williams, and the one below Ken Griffey Jr is Dennis Martinez.

Edited to add: second autograph in #2 is Rod Carew.


Steve

[baseball tourist]

Second Ball:

Pic #1

Carl Erskine
Brooks Robinson


http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q612/Jays9293/Mobile%20Uploads/3FD94989-5F7D-4CC9-B0D2-F2A96C7F6C96_zpsyae86i22.jpg (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/Jays9293/media/Mobile%20Uploads/3FD94989-5F7D-4CC9-B0D2-F2A96C7F6C96_zpsyae86i22.jpg.html)

Pic # 2


Ralph Houk


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Pic # 3

Tony Larussa (thanks "Steve D" !!)
smudged away sig (not the camera, the sig is obliterated) - outline of Fergie Jenkins (thanks!)

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q612/Jays9293/Mobile%20Uploads/AF0D700D-C5EE-409A-A10D-FBA2E3ED2537_zpssgehugsl.jpg (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/Jays9293/media/Mobile%20Uploads/AF0D700D-C5EE-409A-A10D-FBA2E3ED2537_zpssgehugsl.jpg.html)


Pic # 4


Bottom two on the panel:

Tim Hosley (thanks!)
Rusty Staub (thanks guys!)

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Pic # 5

Maury Wills
Boog Powell (thanks guys !!)
Nick Willhite (thanks guys!)


http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q612/Jays9293/Mobile%20Uploads/32CC7AE2-CC72-44C8-BC4C-3DFD87B18B7D_zpsyfqend6e.jpg (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/Jays9293/media/Mobile%20Uploads/32CC7AE2-CC72-44C8-BC4C-3DFD87B18B7D_zpsyfqend6e.jpg.html)


Pic # 6


Fred Patek
Dan Quisenberry

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[Steve D]

Bottom signature in picture #2 is Jack McDowell.

[Steve D]

Top signature in picture #3 of ball #2 is Tony Larussa.

[mrmopar]

Rusty Staub (4), Boog Powell & Nick Willhite (5)

[gashouse34]

Already identified

[Steve D]

Ball #2, picture #4, bottom signature is Rusty Staub.

[Steve D]

Below Maury Wills, is George (Boog) Powell and Nick Willhite.

[mrmopar]

The more I look at ball 1, pic 3, the lighter sig, it looks a bit like Roger Clemens to me.

[mrmopar]

Pretty sure now that ball 1 pic 5 lowest is Ivan Calderon

[gashouse34]

I also thought it was possibly Clemens

[mrmopar]

Ball 1, pic 2 is Rod Carew by the way, 99% sure.

[Steve D]

I think the one below Mike Morgan is a sloppy Roger Clemens.

[Steve D]

Ball #1, picture #4, bottom signature looks like Felix Jose.

[stewbacca]

Ball 1 pic 3
Mike Morgan
I agree with roger Clemens
Sandy Alomar Jr.
Felix Jose

[baseball tourist]

Amazing as usual! And fast! Thanks guys! Just down to two:

Ball 1 - Pic 2 (top) - IDENTIFIED

Ball 2 - Pic 4 (top) - IDENTIFIED

[Steve D]

The one above Rod Carew, is Jim Leyland.

[baseball tourist]

The one above Rod Carew, is Jim Leyland.

Very good eye! Thanks again!

[Steve D]

I believe the one above Rusty Staub, is Tim Hosley.

[mattjc1983]

Alright, y'all convinced me that's Carew given the other vintage sigs. I've actually got multiple Carews and see it now; honestly hadn't even bothered to compare as the sig was so strange looking.

You've got a neat ball here!

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[dgo71]

This is ridiculously scary, but I think the signature that is blurred into oblivion used to be Fergie Jenkins...God help me I have a problem...

[7nohitter]

This is ridiculously scary, but I think the signature that is blurred into oblivion used to be Fergie Jenkins...God help me I have a problem...

Looks like Ernie Whitt to me

[baseball tourist]

I believe the one above Rusty Staub, is Tim Hosley.

Bingo! Thanks

[baseball tourist]

This is ridiculously scary, but I think the signature that is blurred into oblivion used to be Fergie Jenkins...God help me I have a problem...

Wow! I think you are right. On the sig, not the problem :)

[baseball tourist]

Very nice eyes Gents! Always appreciate your help and time!

[HOF Auto Rookies]

A few of them I don't think they are legit...


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[baseball tourist]

A few of them I don't think they are legit...


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Which ones give you concerns Brent?

[HOF Auto Rookies]

A few that stand out the most are Glavine and Carew.

Glavine's just looks pretty bad. Looks to be slowly drawn even. Slant is off, letter formations look off.

Carew's R is the only thing that looks good to me. It does appear either super sloppy or rushed. So never know.

My biggest concern is there are many autographs that appear to be quick/rushed. Why are a lot of them like this? Usually on the ones I've gotten there aren't that many on a ball.

I hope I'm wrong. Looks to be era signed so could have been at the game itself and they were trying to sign as many as they could.


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[baseball tourist]

A few that stand out the most are Glavine and Carew.

Glavine's just looks pretty bad. Looks to be slowly drawn even. Slant is off, letter formations look off.

Carew's R is the only thing that looks good to me. It does appear either super sloppy or rushed. So never know.

My biggest concern is there are many autographs that appear to be quick/rushed. Why are a lot of them like this? Usually on the ones I've gotten there aren't that many on a ball.

I hope I'm wrong. Looks to be era signed so could have been at the game itself and they were trying to sign as many as they could.


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Thanks. I assume they are rushed stadium or hotel sigs. I actually got a Rod Carew sig at the 1991 ASG and it looks just like this. I was confused as to whether or not it was Brett Butler - as I got him too - but on a program that I can't find in storage.

[mattjc1983]

^well there's your answer. Good to hear that you have a way to confirm the legitimacy of the Carew.


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[HOF Auto Rookies]

^well there's your answer. Good to hear that you have a way to confirm the legitimacy of the Carew.


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+1 good!


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[HOF Auto Rookies]

I was confused as to whether or not it was Brett Butler - as I got him too - but on a program that I can't find in storage.


The Butler looks good to me.


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