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cardagents
06-21-2016, 10:31 AM
I have some 1961 and 1962 post baseball cards on super thin paper stock, seemingly even thinner than regular paper. They are cut around a border just like the cereal box versions, and appear vintage and not photocopies or reproductions. Any clue as to what these are?

ALR-bishop
06-21-2016, 10:44 AM
I have some of the Topps paper proofs discussed in Dave Hornish's blog below. Do not know if Post would have had such proofs. Lazer copies maybe.

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrBTzpkbmlXAt0A34dXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByNXQ0NTh jBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM1BHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1466556132/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2ftoppsarchives.blogspot.com%2f2010% 2f04%2fproof-positive.html/RK=0/RS=n_8JL7889ujGecYCKA_qMjw4XXQ-

These are on thin paper stock

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img063.jpg

cardagents
06-21-2016, 11:26 AM
I have some of the Topps paper proofs discussed in Dave Hornish's blog below. Do not know if Post would have had such proofs. Lazer copies maybe.

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrBTzpkbmlXAt0A34dXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByNXQ0NTh jBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM1BHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1466556132/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2ftoppsarchives.blogspot.com%2f2010% 2f04%2fproof-positive.html/RK=0/RS=n_8JL7889ujGecYCKA_qMjw4XXQ-

These are on thin paper stock

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img063.jpg

Thanks for the info. I will get pics up as soon as I can of what I have. It isn't really even a thin paper stock. The paper feels almost crinkly like wax paper. Almost as if they were peeled off a surface, i.e. had been laminated on cardboard.

Cliff Bowman
06-21-2016, 12:36 PM
Sounds like someone skinned the paper thin glossy top layer from the thicker brown cardboard bottom layer at some point.

ALR-bishop
06-21-2016, 12:43 PM
Would that constitute evidence of thinning ?

Cliff Bowman
06-21-2016, 03:28 PM
Would that constitute evidence of thinning ?

It took me a while, but I finally got it ;).

cardagents
06-22-2016, 05:46 AM
wow, well thanks for the help. Sounds like someone had time on their hands, as I have about 30 of them.

horzverti
06-22-2016, 09:34 AM
Sounds like someone skinned the paper thin glossy top layer from the thicker brown cardboard bottom layer at some point.

I believe Cliff is correct. I have a few (at least one?) like this. My theory is that the paper with card image on it was attached to the box cardboard during production. Over time or with help of humidity, the paper layer peeled away and became detached from the cardboard.

Does anybody have just the cardboard remaining from what was once a complete card?

I will have to look, but I think mine are from 1961 only.

Stampsfan
06-22-2016, 02:09 PM
Would that constitute evidence of thinning ?

No, that would be my head.

I also don't have much evidence left of "trimming" either.

LuckyLarry
06-22-2016, 03:48 PM
I've purchased Post baseball cards where the adhesive that held the printed part of the card to the cardboard backing either dried out or was not applied well. I suspect that's what has happened. What did I do? I applied a little bit of Elmers glue and reattached the printed part of the card to the stock. I've seen this four or five times.
Larry

ALR-bishop
06-22-2016, 03:53 PM
Evidence of thickening ? :)

bnorth
06-22-2016, 04:03 PM
There are also some fake proofs out there that are on very thin stock. A friend bought a Mantle a couple years ago that was in a ASA or similar grading companies slab. Under magnification it was clearly a home printer counterfeit.

cardagents
06-26-2016, 12:10 PM
I believe Cliff is correct. I have a few (at least one?) like this. My theory is that the paper with card image on it was attached to the box cardboard during production. Over time or with help of humidity, the paper layer peeled away and became detached from the cardboard.

Does anybody have just the cardboard remaining from what was once a complete card?

I will have to look, but I think mine are from 1961 only.

I found 1961-1963, hoping I can still sell them.

cardagents
06-26-2016, 12:37 PM
Someone just told me life magazine had them. These are thin like a magazine paper.

cardagents
06-26-2016, 12:39 PM
Someone just told me life magazine had them. These are thin like a magazine paper.

maybe that was just the Maris and Mantle in the inserts though....

savedfrommyspokes
06-26-2016, 05:50 PM
maybe that was just the Maris and Mantle in the inserts though....

Only two I know of

horzverti
06-26-2016, 09:49 PM
Someone just told me life magazine had them. These are thin like a magazine paper.

The cards that were inserted into the April 13 1962 issue of Life magazine were made of a cardboard which is thinner than a standard card but much thicker than magazine page paper.