Buy the card, not the holder...

[Exhibitman]

I always try to ignore the holder and look at the card, and this latest acquisition seems to fit right into that philosophy. I will take 6's like this all day long over most 7's I see:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/websize/1966%20Palmer%201.jpg

[Brianruns10]

Nice pickup. I agree with you. I collect 52 topps, and centering for me is key. If I had a choice between a perfectly centered PSA 6 and an average PSA 8, and they were for the same price, I'd buy the PSA 6 every time.

[Leon]

I agree Adam. As someone who is going to trade in top notch cards the VCP and other guide prices can be thrown out the window. I prefer the ebay advanced functions for past sales as well as Google and Pricerealized.com, as opposed to VCP, as they are free.

[3-2-count]

Never buy the # on the flip. Always buy the card!

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/websize/59clementepsa6.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/websize/59toppshodges.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/websize/59brobinson2-13.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/websize/1959frobinson.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/websize/51bowmanmaysfrontfinal.jpg

[Zach Wheat]

Nice Adam. Any chance you send it in and try for an upgrade?

[Peter_Spaeth]

This is nicer than the 7 I used to own.

[Neal]

Good stuff fellas

[Neal]

This is nicer than the 7 I used to own.

Very nice Mr Spaeth

[Exhibitman]

Nice Adam. Any chance you send it in and try for an upgrade?

Nope. I don't really care about the flip. If I enjoy the card I feel that much better if it is a 6 because it means I paid less for it. Let someone else try to bump it; if I sell they can pay me for the bump potential.

Leon, I use VCP to get a baseline read on a card. It does allow click-throughs to recent eBay completed listings, which is helpful. I usually check the low and high sales to see if there was some reason I can spot for the out of the norm price. I paid more for this card than VCP average for a 6 because the centering and registration made the card really look good to me. I imagine the toning on the back accounts for the technical grade.

here is my favorite example of a technical grade I don't care about:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/basketball/websize/1975%20Topps%20Lucas.jpg

I got the card for a song. The back is miscut, but who can read the back of a 1975 Topps BK card anyway?

[Peter_Spaeth]

I always try to ignore the holder and look at the card, and this latest acquisition seems to fit right into that philosophy. I will take 6's like this all day long over most 7's I see:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/websize/1966%20Palmer%201.jpg

Nice 6. There are a lot of nice 6s out there these days with the toughening grading standards and unless you have really keen youthful vision you need a loupe to see the difference from a 7.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Very nice Mr Spaeth

It would go really nicely with that overpriced Williams card.:)

[jb67]

Some sweet looking mid grade cards being posted. Here is very nice looking PSA 2 Bowman Willie Mays. The nicest 2 I have seen. Decent centering with sharp corners. Love the Palmer rookie.

http://i.imgur.com/Z58W1V9.jpg?1

[Peter_Spaeth]

I got the card for a song. The back is miscut, but who can read the back of a 1975 Topps BK card anyway?

The same people who seem to be able to read internet sites on the tiny viewing area of an iphone.

[jason.1969]

Some sweet looking mid grade cards being posted. Here is very nice looking PSA 2 Bowman Willie Mays. The nicest 2 I have seen. Decent centering with sharp corners. Love the Palmer rookie.

http://i.imgur.com/Z58W1V9.jpg?1
Huh? How'd that Mays get a 2?

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[DBesse27]

Here is my contribution. I've never seen a PSA 3 or 4 I liked as much as my 2. I did eventually also buy a PSA 5.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa463/dbesse27/YAZ/YazRC%20medium.jpg

[jb67]

Huh? How'd that Mays get a 2?

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Hey Jason,

Not 100% sure but the back of the card has some potential issues but I'm not sure it would knock it down to a PSA 2. Here is the back. Maybe it has a miscut qualifier along with a mark qualifier and the original submitter asked for no qualifiers. That is the best I can come up with.
http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/JBrules/high-grade-vintage-commons/34108/1955-bowman-cropped-back

[Neal]

It would go really nicely with that overpriced Williams card.:)

indeed!

[KCRfan1]

Nice 6. There are a lot of nice 6s out there these days with the toughening grading standards and unless you have really keen youthful vision you need a loupe to see the difference from a 7.

Pete,

You are spot on. Since PSA has tightened up their grading, there are some very nice 6's and 7's that rival 8's or 9's, and can be had for a fraction of the cost. Just buying a grade after that.

[BigBen7]

http://i64.tinypic.com/14bmjwo.jpg

[KingFisk]

Great thread, better cards. I got this one for $25. OC sure, top to bottom, but come on now. The tilt is just how the card is in the holder, and OC with the black horizontal borders doesn't detract to my eye. I will take this one all day long.

[Sinker Slider]

Beautiful cards all around. A couple of tiny, barely noticeable spots of glue on the back is responsible for the technical grade here.

http://caimages.collectors.com/psaimages/35322/22810111/Robinson%20front.jpg

[ZiggerZagger]

Buying the card. Always the card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

What the hell is with these 49 Bowmans in 2 holders? Great examples.

[ZiggerZagger]

What the hell is with these 49 Bowmans in 2 holders? Great examples.

at least they're getting the 0.5 grade bump for being 'superior for technical grade'... ;)

[thenextlevel]

Back is just as good as the front.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/zupsic/File0051.jpg

[Leon]

Back is just as good as the front.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/zupsic/File0051.jpg

That is a nice looking but miscut card. Is it your thought it's under-graded, or just has great eye appeal for the grade?

[nat]

What's the difference between mis-cut and off-center?

[Exhibitman]

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/websize/1970%20Topps%20Ryan.jpeg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/websize/1958%20Ashburn.jpg

[Canofcorn]

Who needs a PSA 6 when I can own this at a FRACTION of the price. (I wish I had more cards to share but I sold them all to buy this!) haha
Not too many nicer 4s...

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t361/seabass97166/Baseball/c5026032-a3f9-48f8-b941-89c8992da64a_zpsd3cfha3s.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/seabass97166/media/Baseball/c5026032-a3f9-48f8-b941-89c8992da64a_zpsd3cfha3s.jpg.html)

[thenextlevel]

That is a nice looking but miscut card. Is it your thought it's under-graded, or just has great eye appeal for the grade?

Never said that it wasn't miscut, just pretty darn good looking compared to what I think of with miscut cards. I would have cracked it if I thought otherwise.

[GasHouseGang]

I picked up the Ford because it was selling cheap since it was labeled as OC. I don't see it myself. And I picked up the Williams because it was nicer than the 6's I was seeing.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Some first generation PSA cards are graded oc because of the back.

[GasHouseGang]

Some first generation PSA cards are graded oc because of the back.

Ok, here's the back. The scan is a bit squashed looking, but you get the idea.