Next best Honus Wagner Card

[T_Hamilton]

Do not have a Honus card in my collection and obviously wont be owning the T206 anytime soon. Would love thoughts on what people think is the second best card to own of the Flying Dutchman.

Thank you!

[darwinbulldog]

I'm going to answer the question I want to answer, which is "What is the best Honus Wagner card other than the T206?" This is not his second best card in my opinion but his best card. http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1916-d381-fleischmann-bakery-honus-wagner-with-rare-coupon-sgc-30-good-2-highest-graded-example-/a/7116-79008.s

[packs]

My favorite is the Philadelphia Caramel E95

[Steve D]

For me, it's pretty much a toss-up between the E90-2 and E95.

Steve

[vintagerookies51]

Value wise the E107 has gotta be up there, but for affordable cards the E95 Wagner is a great looking card IMO.

[vintagetoppsguy]

E92 (throwing). Just look at that awesome background.

Edited to add: But if you like portraits, I have to agree with the E90-2 suggestion above.

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PrUAAOSwu4BVnec-/s-l1600.jpg

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Doesn't get better than this profile!

[sb1]

my pick, having owned most of the ones listed.

[clydepepper]

Got this one for $3500:

227764

[pawpawdiv9]

Here is mine:
http://loveofthegameauctions.com/ItemImages/000006/6815a_med.jpeg

but I like this one I saw in auction:
http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F9%2F5%2F0%2F13950134%5D%2Csi zedata%5B612x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D

[Kawika]

Toss-up for me. The M110 was kinda spendy but it's high on my list. The PC796 is gnarly and was relatively affordable.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/bbhofthefirstclass/huge/M110Wagner.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/bbhofthefirstclass/huge/PC796%20Wagner_13.jpg

[terjung]

E107 followed by W600, imho

[Buckeye]

M131 Baltimore Newsboy Wagner: from Tim S.

[bcbgcbrcb]

I'll go with the Reccius Louisville card just to stir up some controversy.....:)

[DeanH3]

All great options. Truly, there are no "bad" Honus Wagner cards. :) Here are a couple other options to consider.

M116 - Blue or Pastel are nice portraits
http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/DeanH4/pre-war/11691/1910-11-m116-sporting-life-hans-wagner

E101, E102, etc batting pose is also pretty cool.
http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/DeanH4/pre-war/11690/1909-e101-honus-wagner

Good luck on your decision. Every collection needs a Wagner! ;)

[rainier2004]

E107 followed by W600, imho

yup...

[Bicem]

E107, JKA, W600, Texas Tommy type 2, American League Publishing... All amazing cards. One of those would be my pick.

[clydepepper]

If you can track down the owner and talk him out of it, the Allegheny would be great, if not, here's another one with great eye appeal and affordability:

227778

[The-Cardfather]

I'm gonna put my two cents in and agree with A.J. on the 1914-15 Cracker Jack. (I sure wish I owned one!)

[begsu1013]

http://caimages.collectors.com/psaimages/26029/10847693/wagner206_original.jpg

[sb1]

A few others I still have, not shown yet as candidates.

[ullmandds]

for me the second best Wagner is anyone with the same portrait pose. I used to have an E 90–2... I hope to replace it with another portrait card someday.

I always like the tiptop bread because it's like a jumbo t206!

[scotgreb]

Another vote for this one . . .

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/scotgreb/Wagner%20Honus%201910%20E90-2%20PSA%201%2024803873_zps9vcfgviz.jpg

[sb1]

for me the second best Wagner is anyone with the same portrait pose. I used to have an E 90–2... I hope to replace it with another portrait card someday.

I always like the tiptop bread because it's like a jumbo t206!

OR this one, that I have shown before

[ullmandds]

SCOTT THATS A BEAUTY!!!!!!

I still have a copy of your old t206 wags hanging in my office!

[glchen]

The E103 is my favorite Wagner.

[CW]

E107 followed by W600, imho

I'll have what Brian's having.

In terms of cards that are actually obtainable on a middle class budget like my own, the E92 throwing pose would be high on the list (posted above by David J.).

[shammus]

I'd probably go e107 here but if I'm wanting to be realistic, I'll go with the scarcest one I can find....

227813

[sycks22]

I vote for the E90-2 as well. Love the blue portrait

[pokerplyr80]

E107 if someone wants to buy one for me. E103 if I'm paying for it myself. The E90-2 is a great option as well though as are others mentioned.

[Baseball Rarities]

What a great topic for a thread.

These two for me. 1902 W600 with Type 1 mount and ca. 1912 E300 Plow's Candy.

[Bicem]

Awesome Kevin!

[BeanTown]

+1

Awesome Kevin!

[sbfinley]

Surprised there is only one mention of this card. It's on the bucket list for me.

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/sbfinley/Wagner.jpg

[bn2cardz]

I am surprised his "Rookie" hasn't been shown:

http://www.lelands.com/Zip/Image?path=/public/auctionimages/0/68/68919/68919-1_634728579212968000.jpg

*not owned by me

[swanstars]

My Favorite. Definitely not too many of these floating around either.

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/swanstars/E94-Wagner-SGC-55_zpsj11vlp6t.jpg

[BeanTown]

My second favorite card from the SportingLife Postcard series

[JustinD]

Honus is on my HOF list for acquisition in the next 12 months hopefully.

Thanks to all of you I have narrowed it down to e93, PC796 or the Sporting Life M116.

Looking forward to adding one of the contenders. :D

[Andy Baran]

Wish I still owned this one:

[terjung]

E107, JKA, W600, Texas Tommy type 2, American League Publishing... All amazing cards. One of those would be my pick.


That ALPC is a great card too. You should show yours, Jeff.

To add yet another of my favorites that hasn't been mentioned yet...
Pittsburgh Leader

http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/13/04/98/39/pittsb10.jpg
http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/13/04/98/39/pittsb11.jpg

[Bliggity]

Clearly it's this one.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah316/dmblau/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1460655164356_zpsmyf86scl.jpg

[Touch'EmAll]

I have a 1912 Colgan's Tin Top Honus Wagner SGC 60 in safe deposit box. According to PSA population, they have only graded 1 of this issue - ever, in all grades. Compare that pop to all the T206 Wagner's. The Skydash find had one that SGC graded, and I know of one other SGC graded copy in existence.

[ullmandds]

I have a 1912 Colgan's Tin Top Honus Wagner SGC 60 in safe deposit box. According to PSA population, they have only graded 1 of this issue - ever, in all grades. Compare that pop to all the T206 Wagner's. The Skydash find had one that SGC graded, and I know of one other SGC graded copy in existence.

No doubt that is a tough issue but I would guess there are multiples more out there. Point being that just about every other Wagner issue is more rare than the T206.

[darwinbulldog]

I'm guessing you'd have to combine the total populations of his 20 rarest cards or so (excluding modern manufactured rarities) to add up to the known numbers of his T206 portrait.

[TipTopBread]

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All 3 FS

[D.P.Johnson]

I always found it amazing that the card manufacturers seemed to always indicate Honus played for Pittsburg, when right on the front of his uniform it says Pittsburgh.

[pcoz]

Just love the pose...

[paul]

Here's another nice one.

[68Hawk]

With enough money and opportunity the E107 would be my second cab off the rank.

Third choice would the one I decided on, combining scarcity, photographic accuracy, and rare pose....

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad12/flinchfree/sports%20cards%20and%20memorabilia/orangebordersWagner.jpg (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/flinchfree/media/sports%20cards%20and%20memorabilia/orangebordersWagner.jpg.html)

[itjclarke]

My "next best" Wags.. and as close as I'll ever get to the best. I like most/all the other Wags portraits too (E90-2, M116 either background, E103, etc), and love E95 and the E90-1/E92/E105 throwing pose. Sweet cards everyone.

[TipTopBread]

SGC 2 $7k
PSA 3 $10k

SGC A not FS

[darwinbulldog]

SGC 2 $7k
PSA 3 $10k

SGC A not FS

This isn't the place to peddle your wares.

[honus94566]

e107, and T216 Mino/VE

But as far as aesthetic appeal goes, I love the M116 pastel, and the M110 cabinets.

[Joshwesley]

SGC 2 $7k
PSA 3 $10k

SGC A not FS

Check your PM's

[ls7plus]

W600 rookie; E107; Rose Postcard--take your pick! Personally, I'm quite satisfied with my 1909-1916 Max Stein--total of only 8 graded by SGC and PSA combined, and tremendous actual action pose.

Regards,

Larry

[Leon]

My "next best" Wags.. and as close as I'll ever get to the best. I like most/all the other Wags portraits too (E90-2, M116 either background, E103, etc), and love E95 and the E90-1/E92/E105 throwing pose. Sweet cards everyone.

Great cards by everyone. I especially like yours on a few levels, Ian.

My personal fave was posted a while back.....D381...

[familytoad]

e105 Mello Mint was my first Wagner , now I have added E95 and E98 since.

You don't see many Mello Wagners.
You can't see mine either since its safely stored and the scan I have is on one of my 6 :eek: computers , but not handy or even a quality scan as I recall. I need to rectify that...

[itjclarke]

Great cards by everyone. I especially like yours on a few levels, Ian.

My personal fave was posted a while back.....D381...

Thanks Leon, that means something coming from someone who's owned the cards you have. The E104 definitely does not seem to come up for sale often.

[Leon]

Thanks Leon, that means something coming from someone who's owned the cards you have. The E104 definitely does not seem to come up for sale often.

I think I have seen about 3-4 of those in close to 20 yrs of (internet) looking for them....Their scarcity far outweighs their value, relatively speaking. It's not even close....They are probably 15x-20x more rare than a T206 and it's the same pose. IF only half as many people knew about them, as they do the famous one, their value would be more in line with their scarcity. :(

[itjclarke]

Wow, I knew it was a scarce card, and more so than T206, but didn't know that much. I think PSA has graded 1, and know SGC has graded more, but don't have access to their pop numbers. Prior to bidding, I was able to find history of 4 other previous sales on line, though expect I may have missed some.

[rainier2004]

The e107 is the card IMO, beautiful card with a beautiful pose of a young Honus...

e107s don't get the love they deserve and this card is a glaring example. This article is SCD yesterday does a good job of pointing this out:

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/breisch-williams-honus-wagner-much-rarer-t206/

If I had the cash I would be all over one as I consider it on of the top 5 cards in the hobby and I would include the e107 Matty as well.

[pbspelly]

Wish I still owned this one:

You can own this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1903-E107-Honus-Wagner-Blank-Back-Extremely-Rare-Reprint-/182100537423?

Apparently even Wagner reprints are "extremely rare"

[gabrinus]

Here's two I like....with incorrect labeling......Jerry

[phlflyer1]

I'd probably go e107 here but if I'm wanting to be realistic, I'll go with the scarcest one I can find....

227813

Brian,

I love the J=K Type I card. That one would be very high on my list along with the colorized Type II which is just a beautiful card.

This one isn't going to win any beauty contests but it is a one of one as far as I know since I haven't seen another since I had it added to the known checklist

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag169/phlflyer1/ASBP_Wagner_Graded_zpsnw2c8iyo.jpg

[rman444]

Jerry - those are two ridiculously rare and beautiful cards!

[smtjoy]

Great Cards everyone, here is one of my favorite Wags-

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1917WeilBakingD328-Wagner-20.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1917WeilBakingD328-Wagner-20.jpg.html)

[MartyFromCANADA]

Here's mine.

230906

[terjung]

Here's mine.

230906

That's a great one!

[Orioles1954]

I will vote for Wagner's toughest tobacco card. That would be the T216 batting pose!

[Bicem]

That's a great one!

You mean that's a great 1/17th! ;)

[tedzan]

Any of these 3 are fine with me......


1908

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/batwagner.jpg



1910

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/e90wagnerfranknagy.jpg



1949
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/leafwagner.jpg
TED Z
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[bobbvc]

I will vote for Wagner's toughest tobacco card. That would be the T216 batting pose!
I don't remember the exact issue, but The Trader Speaks magazine had an op-ed piece where the author asked anyone if that card even existed. Circa 1978 if anyone wants to look for it.

[V117collector]

Never get tired of posting my favourite card!
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn269/Maple_Crispette_Set/Type%20Cards/e90-2wagner.jpg (http://s306.photobucket.com/user/Maple_Crispette_Set/media/Type%20Cards/e90-2wagner.jpg.html)http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn269/Maple_Crispette_Set/Type%20Cards/e90-2wagner_b.jpg (http://s306.photobucket.com/user/Maple_Crispette_Set/media/Type%20Cards/e90-2wagner_b.jpg.html)

[MartyFromCANADA]

You mean that's a great 1/17th! ;)

May have been 1/17 in 1909, but it was a 1/1 when it got to me.

[BBB]

1949

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/leafwagner.jpg

TED Z

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So is that Honus chewing tobacco - or no? Twenty years ago when I bought a beat up example, I thought it was. Regardless it's an undervalued card.

[rman444]

Which T216 back?

[Leon]

Not mine anymore but I really liked this one (and the photo too)

[begsu1013]

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