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The Nasty Nati
03-29-2016, 11:46 AM
I'm thinking about getting my feet wet with some '33 Goudeys. I'm not super familiar with the set (or even that era) and I was wondering what are some of the minor stars from the set. I'm aware of the spy Moe Berg.

Are there players from the set who may still have a chance of being inducted into Cooperstown?

bcornell
03-29-2016, 12:06 PM
Are there players from the set who may still have a chance of being inducted into Cooperstown?

Let's hope not. There are 20 players in the '33 Goudey set who got into the Hall of Fame thanks to the Veterans Committee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Committee). As Bill James and others have shown, most of these guys (Lindstrom, Haines, Sewell, Klein, Gomez, etc.) were not very good but Frankie Frisch and Bill Terry pushed them in. Never let a player pick a HOFer.

vthobby
03-29-2016, 12:07 PM
- Riggs Stephenson (.336 career BA)
- Benny Bengough for obvious reasons (Card #1)
- Babe Herman (.324 career BA)
- Muddy Ruel (battery mate of Walter Johnson)
- Bob O'Farrell (NL MVP in 192?) and considered one of the best defensive catchers of the time

- are just a few that come to mind but as far as making Hall of Fame......that will be tough as if they have not made it by now......

It is a beautiful and historic set and you can have fun with the minor stars and they will be cheap except maybe Card #1 in better condition of course!

Good luck!

Mike

Shoebox
03-29-2016, 01:07 PM
Wes Ferrell seems to keep getting consideration for the Hall.

vthobby
03-29-2016, 01:20 PM
Wes Ferrell seems to keep getting consideration for the Hall.

I've always admired him and yes he is definitely a minor star to star but I think that his ERA of over 4 will do him in. I love the fact that he hit the most HRs of any pitcher (minus Babe of course) but he did so while he was still pitching games so that is cool. The fact that he has a "no hitter" is cool.

Fairly short 14 year career (unless you compare him to average Joe MLB average of 5.6 years) also hurts him I think. Not sure he will ever get in. Just my 2 cents.

Peace, Mike

mechanicalman
03-29-2016, 02:37 PM
Lefty O'Doul is in the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame, though many seem to call him a HoFer on eBay. Guess they're not lying.

VoodooChild
03-29-2016, 03:18 PM
Adolfo Luque is in the Cuban Baseball HOF. Jack Quinn, although not quite HOF caliber, was a good pitcher for a very long time. I mean he even has a card in the T206 set.

I'm not sure about what type of careers they had, but the Paul Richards and Dibrell Williams cards are two of my favorite looking Prewar cards.

brianp-beme
03-29-2016, 06:59 PM
Here are some other players, most not quite having the careers as those already mentioned, but still worthy of consideration (and looking up their bios and career stats on the internet):

6 Jimmy Dykes
28 Dick Bartell
39 Mark Koenig
51 Charlie Grimm
62 Pepper Martin
67 Guy Bush
81 Sam Jones
98 Wally Berger
130 Fred Fitzsimmons
153 Buddy Myer
155 Joe Judge
199 Tom Bridges
203 Lonnie Warneke
221 Dale Alexander
225 Bill Jurges
226 Charley Root

There are probably the same amount of interesting players not mentioned yet.

Brian

shernan30
03-30-2016, 05:28 AM
You should add Sam Byrd to your list as well. He is the only person to play in a World Series and at The Masters.

Wiki Page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Byrd)

Pilot172000
03-30-2016, 06:55 AM
I have about nine 1933 Goudey cards on ebay that I am trying to part with. Two are HOFers. PM me if you are interested in buying or trading. I love the cards and most are PSA 4, but I decided to do nothing but T206.

1. Lefty Grove PSA (MC) my favorite card
2. Eddie Collins PSA 4
3. Luke Sewek PSA 4 (MK)
4. Luke Sewel PSA 4 (Portrait)
5. Bob Smith PSA 4
6. Ernie Orsatti PSA 4
7. Earl Clark PSA 4 (MK)
8. Russel Rollins PSA 4
9. Max Bishop PSA 4

The Nasty Nati
03-30-2016, 11:14 AM
Wow I did not know this about Sam Byrd, really cool.

And thanks for the other lists guys. Love learning about a new set. T206 has been my main focus the last 4 years, so it's fun to get to know a new era.

You should add Sam Byrd to your list as well. He is the only person to play in a World Series and at The Masters.

Wiki Page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Byrd)

BBB
03-30-2016, 11:02 PM
frank corsetti has more WS rings than anyone: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Crosetti


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IMAXMAX
03-31-2016, 07:16 PM
I hadn't given 33 Goudeys much thought in quite some time but happened upon this minor (at best) star card during a recent auction and fell in love all over again...classic set!

deadballfreaK
03-31-2016, 08:05 PM
Virgil "Spud" Davis was a pretty good catcher. Starting catcher for the Gas House Gang. Lifetime .308 hitter. I'm happy to have a newspaper photo of him, Vince Dimaggio, Frank Frisch, and Elbie Fletcher in street clothes at the 1939 Worlds Fair. Signed by Davis, Fletcher, and Dimaggio. Unfortunately not by "The Fordham Flash".