View Full Version : poor 1933 goudey ruth opinion
richardcards
03-27-2016, 01:20 PM
1933 goudey ruth
Bought it 15 years ago at card
richardcards
03-27-2016, 01:21 PM
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bobbyw8469
03-27-2016, 01:32 PM
lol....damn
vintagesportscollector
03-27-2016, 01:43 PM
The Babe always looked better from behind anyway.
ullmandds
03-27-2016, 02:32 PM
Worth about the same real or fake!!!
Worth about the same real or fake!!!
I'd wager someone would still pay $20-$30 if it were real.
ullmandds
03-27-2016, 03:24 PM
I'd wager someone would still pay $20-$30 if it were real.
Like i said...
brianp-beme
03-27-2016, 03:29 PM
If real, because it is a Goudey Babe, my guess is it would fetch at least $100. The card's back looks possibly legit, but the front scan is just too blurry to make a virtual judgement.
Brian
richardcards
03-27-2016, 03:38 PM
Pic
richardcards
03-27-2016, 03:40 PM
Pic
richardcards
03-27-2016, 03:51 PM
Not for sale but fyi PSA 0 go for $1200
$20? Wow
I wish could another one for that price.
mrmopar
03-27-2016, 04:05 PM
A poor condition Ruth may sell in the $1200 range if it presents well. I have been watching the 181 over the last several months and poor copies routinely break $1K, but they look great for the grade. I don't know how well that version sells because I am not interested in it, but although I don't doubt someone would pay $100 for one that bad, I am not sure why. Isn't one of the allures of a baseball card the appearance? I suppose filling a hole for a set is one reason, but jeez...
ullmandds
03-27-2016, 04:15 PM
My comment was made somewhat in jest as reprints routinely sell for a few hundred $.
bobbyw8469
03-27-2016, 04:39 PM
There are different levels of PSA 1's. That being said, this card won't 1. It would set record low for "authentic" if it is real.
richardcards
03-27-2016, 04:51 PM
I trust the dealer I got it from 15 years ago.
PSA 0
goes for $1200 with 25 watching.
I will send to grading one day will show a lot nicer .
I have examined with my goudey cards and 100%.
$100? more like $750 but again not selling
happy easter
pokerplyr80
03-27-2016, 05:53 PM
750 sounds pretty high to me in an authentic holder. 200-300 would be my guess. There is too much paper loss on the front for much more than that.
Bruinsfan94
03-27-2016, 06:01 PM
If you could get 200-300$ I'd take it and never look back.
brianp-beme
03-27-2016, 06:10 PM
Ok, how much for this authentic Ruth? It is obviously missing huge chunks and is actually in two pieces, but in my opinion it displays a lot nicer than the one posted. We all had a nice laugh when I have posted this in the past...it is not all about the money.
As a side question, I wonder how much someone would pay for my Diamond Stars Hornsby with the blank front?
Brian
bcornell
03-27-2016, 06:32 PM
I will send to grading one day will show a lot nicer .
That is staggeringly dumb.
Bruinsfan94
03-27-2016, 06:45 PM
Ok, how much for this authentic Ruth? It is obviously missing huge chunks and is actually in two pieces, but in my opinion it displays a lot nicer than the one posted. We all had a nice laugh when I have posted this in the past...it is not all about the money.
As a side question, I wonder how much someone would pay for my Diamond Stars Hornsby with the blank front?
Brian
Yea I agree that is much nicer because you can actually see the Babes face & body. I think the only way someone would buy that Hornsby would be to use it for some kind of shady purpose.
bobbyw8469
03-27-2016, 06:50 PM
If you could get 200-300$ I'd take it and never look back.
Agreed!! I was thinking $40 was too much!
pokerplyr80
03-27-2016, 07:14 PM
That is staggeringly dumb.
That's a little harsh. If there is enough of the card left to grade I would send it in. I'm sure it's worth more graded as raw there is more of a question of authenticity.
bcornell
03-27-2016, 07:20 PM
That's a little harsh. If there is enough of the card left to grade I would send it in. I'm sure it's worth more graded as raw there is more of a question of authenticity.
Please. If you put garbage in a holder, it doesn't "show nicer" and it isn't "worth more".
bnorth
03-27-2016, 07:22 PM
Please. If you put garbage in a holder, it doesn't "show nicer" and it isn't "worth more".
Depends on the holder.;)
brianp-beme
03-27-2016, 08:19 PM
Yea I agree that is much nicer because you can actually see the Babes face & body. I think the only way someone would buy that Hornsby would be to use it for some kind of shady purpose.
When I previously posted the Ruth, someone commented that they never knew the Babe had such an hourglass figure.
And scammers take note...the Hornsby is not for sale! The only shady purpose I intend for it involves using it as a coaster while resting in a hammock.
Brian
richardcards
03-28-2016, 03:03 AM
I asked for opinions not insults
Thanks Billy. Im dumb and card is garbage.
Brain like ur ruth i think its awesome card.
bobbyw8469
03-28-2016, 04:49 AM
I asked for opinions not insults
Thanks Billy. Im dumb and card is garbage.
Brain like ur ruth i think its awesome card.
Didn't mean to insult. You implied it was a $750-$1200 card though. That is ludicrous.
7nohitter
03-28-2016, 05:04 AM
I would love to some day add a Ruth to my '33 collection, and condition is not an issue for me. HOWEVER, I wouldn't go more than $25 for that filler.
I would extremely surprised, even if holdered, this card fetched more than $75.
IronHorse2130
03-28-2016, 05:38 AM
This one recently sold on eBay for $650
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-BABE-RUTH-144-GRADED-SGC-10-1-/301841547103?hash=item4647287f5f%3Ag%3ALmEAAOSwL7V WjTJt&nma=true&si=9l9Ha8O1hP2ttb8s2SCt%252F8nvReo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
It has a very nice front with a back that has been destroyed. Based on this and similar sales I don't think it is realistic to expect $750 or more for your example.
bobbyw8469
03-28-2016, 06:18 AM
This one recently sold on eBay for $650
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-BABE-RUTH-144-GRADED-SGC-10-1-/301841547103?hash=item4647287f5f%3Ag%3ALmEAAOSwL7V WjTJt&nma=true&si=9l9Ha8O1hP2ttb8s2SCt%252F8nvReo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
It has a very nice front with a back that has been destroyed. Based on this and similar sales I don't think it is realistic to expect $750 or more for your example.
You are insane. At least you can see the front on that one. How many people only look at the backs of cards and completely ignore the front?? ZERO. At least on the other example you can see the front. If you were filling it pages of a binder, that slot would be filled, and you can SEE it is a Babe Ruth card. On the OP's example, I have no idea WHO it is!
JustinD
03-28-2016, 06:28 AM
You are insane. At least you can see the front on that one. How many people only look at the backs of cards and completely ignore the front?? ZERO. At least on the other example you can see the front. If you were filling it pages of a binder, that slot would be filled, and you can SEE it is a Babe Ruth card. On the OP's example, I have no idea WHO it is!
I think Ben was attempting to say the same as you, he was not backing up the OP's opinion. He was offering a good example of a poor card to state the value was unrealistic.
Personally, I like well presenting poor cards and that example that Ben posted would be a great one for a low budget collector who wanted a Ruth. If it was displayed, no one would know the better. The OPs card ( and I am only being honest, no insult meant) I likely would not put more than 10 bucks toward and that would be just to give it to my son for fun. It has no presentation worth at all.
bobbyw8469
03-28-2016, 06:47 AM
I think Ben was attempting to say the same as you, he was not backing up the OP's opinion. He was offering a good example of a poor card to state the value was unrealistic.
Personally, I like well presenting poor cards and that example that Ben posted would be a great one for a low budget collector who wanted a Ruth. If it was displayed, no one would know the better. The OPs card ( and I am only being honest, no insult meant) I likely would not put more than 10 bucks toward and that would be just to give it to my son for fun. It has no presentation worth at all.
Yea...I misread his. My bad. At least we are all in agreement.
Bestdj777
03-28-2016, 06:49 AM
I trust the dealer I got it from 15 years ago.
PSA 0
goes for $1200 with 25 watching.
I will send to grading one day will show a lot nicer .
I have examined with my goudey cards and 100%.
$100? more like $750 but again not selling
happy easter
I am really confused. You know this card is authentic, and you know what the card is worth. What would you like an opinion on?
ullmandds
03-28-2016, 06:52 AM
all cards presented are nicer and more valuable than that of the op. just because the op purchased a likely authentic beat to piss goudey ruth years ago for likely a song...the op shouldn't take it as an insult...unless he purposely made the card this way...that this card is not very valuable.
it is what it is.
Bpm0014
03-28-2016, 07:12 AM
The guy who owns the $25 card in question here, and the guy that bought the $650 Ruth card with back damage on Ebay (2 threads above).........should get together and put BOTH cards in a holder back to back. Nice front, nice back. Problem solved! You're welcome....
glynparson
03-28-2016, 07:19 AM
Sorry but all Authentic grades are not valued the same. I honestly think you could get $300-$400 for the card in a
pSA or SGC authentic holder but it would not be an easy sell.
As in the other mistake you made, is your name Billy? Now I see why you couldn't see a thread that was in front of your eyes for 4 days. No big deal but you either need to slow down or speed up or something. PS...I think the OPs card goes for $223.50 in auction (if it went to auction).
Didn't mean to insult. You implied it was a $750-$1200 card though. That is ludicrous.
vintagesportscollector
03-28-2016, 08:10 AM
The guy who owns the $25 card in question here, and the guy that bought the $650 Ruth card with back damage on Ebay (2 threads above).........should get together and put BOTH cards in a holder back to back. Nice front, nice back. Problem solved! You're welcome....
Seriously, that's actually a really good observation. If I had the $650 Ruth, I would pay a premium (not $750, but something more than $25, $100?? maybe), just to get the clean back. That would be a cool display seeing front and back together side-by-side. In this case the whole (or two halves) would be greater than the sum of the parts.
bobbyw8469
03-28-2016, 08:19 AM
As in the other mistake you made, is your name Billy? Now I see why you couldn't see a thread that was in front of your eyes for 4 days. No big deal but you either need to slow down or speed up or something. PS...I think the OPs card goes for $223.50 in auction (if it went to auction).
Not really a mistake. I never got emails. You said I got them. Well, I didn't. You said I did though, so I'll take the hit and say I got them. My mistake. You can call me Billy.
PS....put me down for $20 on the UNDER....as long as it is a legit auction with no shilling or anything nefarious going on.
bobbyw8469
03-28-2016, 08:20 AM
Seriously, that's actually a really good observation. If I had the $650 Ruth, I would pay a premium (not $750, but something more than $25, $100?? maybe), just to get the clean back. That would be a cool display seeing front and back together side-by-side. In this case the whole (or two halves) would be greater than the sum of the parts.
Agreed. Would make a good display piece in a frame or something. That is the ONLY way I would be interested in that card.
So Richards name is now Billy? I guess my name is Stan and you can be Steve.
I never said you got emails, Bobby. I doubt you did (though from what I see on the board you might have missed them if they were in front of your face.) It's not a big deal I was just pointing out you don't tend to see things in front of you.
Not really a mistake. I never got emails. You said I got them. Well, I didn't. You said I did though, so I'll take the hit and say I got them. My mistake. You can call me Billy.
bobbyw8469
03-28-2016, 10:02 AM
You can call me Al. Just don't call me late for dinner. God, I wish I owned a Goudey Ruth right about now! :-p
hangman62
03-28-2016, 02:46 PM
front looks good
back is a reprint
richardcards
03-28-2016, 05:07 PM
Im not worried about the money but
I know its worth at least $500 some people see garbage I see a beautiful ruth card that's not for sale
thanks and good luck to all
Bliggity
03-28-2016, 05:19 PM
Im not worried about the money but
I know its worth at least $500 some people see garbage I see a beautiful ruth card that's not for sale
thanks and good luck to all
Well, we're five pages deep now and we still don't know what you want an opinion on. Was there a question here? If the question is one of value, not a single person has agreed with your estimate, yet you still "know it's worth at least $500." Why ask for opinions if you know the answer already and aren't interested in listening to opinions?
ETA: I realize these are largely rhetorical questions at this point :D
richardcards
03-28-2016, 05:33 PM
yes I asked for opinions but not anymore since I get estimates of $10 and $25
and insults that my card is garbage.
Bruinsfan94
03-28-2016, 05:43 PM
So you want opinions as long as they agree with you? I'm not sure if the card is real and even if it was, does anyone think that one of the big three would holder it? If it is real I think it would go for over 20$ for people who want a filler or a real Ruth. A Goudey Ruth with a much better picture, though trimmed, went for like 375 last month.
richardcards
03-28-2016, 06:06 PM
im no longer interested in any opnions.
Ive put away my gem ruth for good.
thank u
pokerplyr80
03-28-2016, 06:32 PM
im no longer interested in any opnions.
Ive put away my gem ruth for good.
thank u
That sounds like it is for the best. I doubt anyone will ever appreciate that card as much as you do.
frankbmd
03-28-2016, 07:02 PM
That sounds like it is for the best. I doubt anyone will ever appreciate that card as much as you do.
I've been formulating my opinion for a couple of days and now just when I am ready to pull the trigger, I am too late. Shucks!!!
frankbmd
03-28-2016, 07:03 PM
I've been formulating my opinion for a couple of days and now just when I am ready to pull the trigger, I am too late. Shucks!!!
bobbyw8469
03-28-2016, 09:51 PM
im no longer interested in any opnions.
Ive put away my gem ruth for good.
thank u
This whole thread is odd. LOL @ Gem Ruth! Odd.
mrmopar
03-28-2016, 09:54 PM
This is the same member that posted the Pope card a few months back, is it not? I seem to remember he got quite mad about all of the comments on that thread.
Since the Ruth is not for sale, I guess nobody will know how high (or low) it may have sold for.
pokerplyr80
03-28-2016, 10:00 PM
This is the same member that posted the Pope card a few months back, is it not? I seem to remember he got quite mad about all of the comments on that thread.
Since the Ruth is not for sale, I guess nobody will know how high (or low) it may have sold for.
Looks like the same. I found the thread, but it looks like the OP removed all of his comments from it.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=212030
bnorth
03-29-2016, 06:52 AM
This whole thread is odd. LOL @ Gem Ruth! Odd.
You should try the BO forum a little more if you want odd threads. My favorite is still the guy with the Alex Rodriguez super refractor missing the autograph and 1/1 numbering. He thought he had a gold mine when in reality it as a sack of aluminum cans.
richardcards
03-29-2016, 07:14 AM
Yes just like pope thread
Wanted to share my card and get
Opnions but was only made fun of
And insulted.
Have a great day
7nohitter
03-29-2016, 07:20 AM
Yes just like pope thread
Wanted to share my card and get
Opnions but was only made fun of
And insulted.
Have a great day
But you must be starting these threads knowing that many of the opinions may differ from yours. To some degree you're trolling and then feigning incredulity at the exact responses you are hoping to garner.
richardcards
03-29-2016, 07:25 AM
No sir just i dont mind the opinions but
Just dont need any insults and made fun off
I really dont care but its not nice.
Bruinsfan94
03-29-2016, 08:47 AM
No sir just i dont mind the opinions but
Just dont need any insults and made fun off
I really dont care but its not nice.
What were you expecting? You asked peoples opinions of the card, and they gave it to you.
asoriano
03-29-2016, 10:10 AM
Some other threads by the OP that are pure gold:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=185898
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=189141
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=186797
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=187399
ullmandds
03-29-2016, 10:16 AM
haha! why don't they call it round-teen...the jar is round...the cup is round...
bcornell
03-29-2016, 10:33 AM
I was mistaken when I called the card garbage. Since it's cardboard, it should be recycled.
Bill
vintagesportscollector
03-29-2016, 10:38 AM
haha! why don't they call it round-teen...the jar is round...the cup is round...
That's Gold, Jerry!
Bruinsfan94
03-29-2016, 10:38 AM
Based on those old threads he has to be a troll, hopefully.
richardcards
03-29-2016, 10:48 AM
Just want share my card
For fun but got a bunch grief instead.
Oh well
PM770
03-29-2016, 02:29 PM
Some other threads by the OP that are pure gold:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=185898
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=189141
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=186797
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=187399
Thanks for digging these up. My favorite was the "serious buyers only" for 1990 UD Ben McDonald cards. I only dare dream of such.
richardcards
03-29-2016, 03:15 PM
Yes perfect example regular post that where ruined and
Made fun of . Lots of fun
Good luck
pokerplyr80
03-29-2016, 03:45 PM
The personal insults were uncalled for but there does seem to be some disconnect from reality with your perceived value of the card. Not to mention the other strange threads.
When you post a picture asking for opinions, that's what you are going to get. If you don't want to hear everyone's opinion I would suggest not asking for it in the first place.
I actually think your card has some value, more than anyone else who has commented in this thread in fact, just not nearly as much as you seem to think. Assuming it is real.
richardcards
03-29-2016, 04:13 PM
What strange threads?
Selling a ben mcdonald card or
Moises alou rookie is strange?
Sharing my pope rookie card.
Other people made the threads strange
The unrealistic value was given to me
$10$20 a reprint worth more.
No one will ever find a ruth goudey for those
Prices.
Card is real and regret asking for opnion
Or sharing card.
I still like my card and thats all that
Matters.
For the most part my experience this is
Unfriendly forum other than to look and search
for cards but not posting thread for opnion
My mistake
Thanks to all and good luck
mrmopar
03-29-2016, 08:10 PM
Richard, I know this will probably fall on deaf ears, but I will say it anyway. Much the same way you are welcome to share your random thoughts. I have no idea what that Ruth would sell for if authentic, but I don't think even you could deny that it is not an attractive card by any stretch of the imagination. It is not an insult, but rather my opinion. I wouldn't own a card like that, period. If I had an authentic T206 Wagner like that, I would immediately try to sell it for whatever the market would allow.
I don't post here all that often and feel as though my collecting interests only grazes the boundary of most of the members who regularly post. I feel more comfortable on some of the other forums when it comes to sharing items and knowledge. I can put all of my prewar cards into a super shoe box comfortably. Certainly a member should not be ridiculed for a differing collecting interest, but this is a forum known primarily for prewar interests. To keep pushing Ben McDonald and Moises Alou cards kind of begs for the response you continue to get. Your replies do nothing to help your case either.
Imagine if you went to a very fancy high end steak house/restaurant and the waiter was trying to sell you a hot dog. That would seem odd to most. Ben McDonald is the hot dog in this steak house!
richardcards
03-29-2016, 08:30 PM
I posted the ben McDonald and moise alou rookie on 80s not on pre war?
btw I like my ruth goudey.
thanks good luck
egbeachley
03-29-2016, 09:05 PM
It's not easy finding an authentic Goudey Ruth card for under $100. Congrats!
bobbyw8469
03-30-2016, 06:22 AM
it's not easy finding an authentic goudey ruth card for under $100. Congrats!
lol!
ullmandds
03-30-2016, 06:28 AM
It's not easy finding an authentic Goudey Ruth card for under $100. Congrats!
Did OP ever state what was paid for this "card?"
And honestly when a card like this(or the ted williams for that matter) is so beat to piss...gauging authenticity can be a bit harder to discern.
But to me the higher the likelihood it is not real.
Bruinsfan94
03-30-2016, 07:23 AM
Did OP ever state what was paid for this "card?"
And honestly when a card like this(or the ted williams for that matter) is so beat to piss...gauging authenticity can be a bit harder to discern.
But to me the higher the likelihood it is not real.
That Wlliams looks just like the "burn damaged" reprints on ebay.
ullmandds
03-30-2016, 07:35 AM
That Wlliams looks just like the "burn damaged" reprints on ebay.
agreed
richardcards
03-30-2016, 09:48 AM
1954 wilson franks ted williams is not burned
and not reprint either has major
I like my card
Thanks
ullmandds
03-30-2016, 10:01 AM
1954 wilson franks ted williams is not burned
and not reprint either has major
I like my card
Thanks
has major...what?
richardcards
03-30-2016, 10:04 AM
Issues
JustinD
03-30-2016, 06:59 PM
(double post, sorry)
JustinD
03-30-2016, 07:19 PM
if I have a beat to death card it really is worth digging into.
If you can get even an "a" grade on these cards you a grabbing, then bonus points to you. Just be careful as they are very questionable. Comping psa 0 sales these really does not work as when you get in that territory its totally buyer discretion.
Don't overpay for a wish and a dream.