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revmoran

03-26-2016, 02:29 PM

I didn't notice a thread on Jim Thorpe alone, and rather than get off track on the 100 Best Books thread I thought I'd start one - and offer this to get it going - a program from Thorpe's football tenure with the Portsmouth Shoe-Steel team. I haven't seen another example, and would love to see a Portsmouth home program with a team photo. I also found an article about the game online

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revmoran

03-26-2016, 02:42 PM

I'll post one more for now - fast forward 25 years from that football game and Jim Thorpe is signing autographs at The New England Sportsman's and Boat Show - and on the reverse of the page is Ted Williams, which makes the 1959 Fleer card the perfect companion.

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DBesse27

03-26-2016, 10:17 PM

Love that card. Hell, I love the whole set.

TanksAndSpartans

03-28-2016, 09:40 AM

Mike, great idea for a thread! Love the Shoe-Steel program - what a great piece of history.

I looked up this game in Home & Away - it was a big deal for Portsmouth to play in the “big city”. Becker documented that Creasy was looking for a tougher game (apparently they had played a soft schedule to date). The Guards offered 37% of the gate and the Steels took it and started “loading up” (common practice of signing ringers for big games). One of the players signed was Russell Hathway who had played for the Maroons and Bisons in the NFL. The Norfolk and Western ran an excursion train to Cincinnati. There is no exact attendance figure, but one newspaper estimated at 5-7 thousand which may have been a Redland stadium record. (As your article shows, the Cincinatti newspapers definitely played up Thorpe's appearance - Becker mentioned "fathers last chance to take their sons see the great Jim Thorpe.") Portsmouth lost the game 19-12, but this was one of the games Thorpe was healthy for as we know he threw a touchdown pass. No other game stats were provided in the book.

jefferyepayne

03-31-2016, 12:43 PM

Wow. Surprised this thread isn't getting more love from the pre-war thorpe collectors out there. I know who you are!

I've shown most of my Thorpe football stuff on the Ode to Pre-War Football thread but here are a couple of non-football items you might enjoy.

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jeff

RollieFingers

03-31-2016, 03:15 PM

is it rude to ask how much they cost?
i think thats a valid detail in collecting

GasHouseGang

03-31-2016, 05:30 PM

I picked this up because it had Thorpe in it.

TanksAndSpartans

03-31-2016, 05:49 PM

Great items everyone! I'm hoping the member who owns the Capitol Candy Thorpe in the SGC holder posts that one....

scooter729

03-31-2016, 08:02 PM

Not quite so contemporary as some of the others, but tough to find in its own right...

Filthy

04-01-2016, 08:21 AM

These are all amazing!

Exhibitman

04-01-2016, 10:46 AM

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jefferyepayne

04-01-2016, 10:53 AM

Not quite so contemporary as some of the others, but tough to find in its own right...

That's a nice one! I have some newer ones as well ... pick them up if I can find them cheap.

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Forgot one vintage image. This is a glass negative of Thorpe playing baseball
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jeff

cmoore330

04-02-2016, 09:30 PM

Here's one that hasn't been mentioned in the thread:

http://www.collectorfocus.com/uploads/cmoore330/cmoore330-jim-thorpe-matchcover.jpg

revmoran

04-03-2016, 10:53 AM

Some Thorpe wirephotos -

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revmoran

04-03-2016, 11:03 AM

This is a RPPC from the World Famous Indians basketball team - which I have only as a scan

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1933 Sport Kings

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1955 Hinckley and Schmitt Chicago All Star luncheon book mark

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Canton Bank give-a-way

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More recent Helmar Batter Up card

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TanksAndSpartans

04-03-2016, 12:34 PM

Thanks Mike - really enjoyed those!

jefferyepayne

04-05-2016, 10:58 AM

Surprised everyone's favorite Thorpe hasn't shown up in this thread yet!

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jeff

Blcmmh

04-05-2016, 10:46 PM

Great stuff guys !!!Been awhile since I posted .

DBesse27

04-06-2016, 07:51 AM

Jeff, Rev, those are great Thorpe collections you've got there!

jefferyepayne

04-06-2016, 07:11 PM

Thanks guys! Can never have enough Thorpe stuff.

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cmoore330

05-25-2018, 10:06 AM

I was finally able to get my hands on a copy of this rare French magazine from 1912. I've had this on my list for many years because it has an awesome supplement of Jim Thorpe. I was able to hunt one down through some deep internet research and it arrived yesterday! It's about 11 x 14 and the artwork & colors are beautiful.

FYI...shipping time from central France to central Oklahoma is almost 3 weeks! :D

https://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/cmoore330/jim-thorpe/61012/1912-jim-thorpe-supplement

TanksAndSpartans

05-25-2018, 02:09 PM

Great pickup! I enjoyed looking through this thread again.

jefferyepayne

05-25-2018, 04:43 PM

That's a beautiful pickup, Casey! Love it. What does the front look like?

jeff

Arazi4442

05-25-2018, 05:47 PM

Great magazine, Casey. That's a new one to me. Always enjoy seeing Thorpe items I've never seen before and nice to have Oklahoma memoribilia staying close to home. :D

Boomer!

jefferyepayne

05-26-2018, 05:08 AM

This is one of my favorite Thorpe images. Not sure what year it is but look how young he looks! Gotta be 1907 or 08 when he had just started playing for Carlisle.

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cmoore330

05-26-2018, 06:10 AM

That's a beautiful pickup, Casey! Love it. What does the front look like?

jeff

Here is the front, Jeff:

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Aquarian Sports Cards

05-26-2018, 01:28 PM

never knew Thorpe was a blonde!

FourStrikes

05-27-2018, 01:33 PM

Thorpe was on the roster in '07 and played in '08 (I think).

also posted these in the "ode to prewar..." thread

jefferyepayne

05-28-2018, 05:09 AM

Great postcards! Have you zoomed in to see if you can find Thorpe on the field?

jeff

runred41

11-04-2018, 10:14 AM

Hi...I’ve been a member for awhile but never posted anything. The Thorpe thread has been calling to me for awhile and love the pieces that have been shown so far. I have an immense Jim Thorpe collection of over 1000 pieces that has never been seen (other than many of the pieces themselves) but never been shared as a collection. My earliest piece is 1904 when he enrolled in Carlisle. If somebody will teach me how to load photos I’d be willing to start sharing photos of my collection....if anybody is interested in seeing what I have. I see some fellow Oklahoma collectors who enjoy having Thorpe pieces! Hopefully, I’ve posted this correctly and not messed up the flow of the thread. Thanks! Mike

TanksAndSpartans

11-05-2018, 11:06 AM

Mike, Do you have any Thorpe items related to him playing pro football? I'm especially interested in his pre-NFL seasons with the Canton Bulldogs particularly 1915-17, 1919. Thanks.

runred41

11-05-2018, 06:17 PM

John...I have not had the privilege to purchase any Canton items with Thorpe. I have Carlisle, Cleveland and Oorang Thorpe memorabilia. I started concentrating on his track and Olympic career as the bidding for those items are not quite as heavy most the time. Of course as you know...any Thorpe memorabilia is hard to come by. Carl has helped me to install Tapatalk and will start taking pictures of some items I have and share them. I did end up with the 1907 and 1908 postcards that have appeared on the ode to prewar thread.
Mike

TanksAndSpartans

11-06-2018, 11:51 AM

Thanks Mike - those pre-NFL years (15-19) are tough to find much of anything - Thorpe was the biggest name, probably Rockne 2nd as he moonlighted in pro football, but I've never seen many items.

Looking forward to seeing your collection!

runred41

11-06-2018, 05:49 PM

Here is my favorite piece and most likely earliest know Jim Thorpe item. I consider it the cornerstone of my collection. When he enrolled in Carlisle he received government issued items..this is his writing tablet. I’ve seen his wool blanket many years ago and missed it by less that 30 seconds. The owner had taken it down and said a biographer of Thorpe’s had bought it over the phone and was on his way from North Carolina to get it. I got it from a guy who’s grandfather ran a trading post turned into pawn shop and he was the heir to all the stuff left in warehouses. He had Jesse James, Cole Younger and Wyatt Earp estate items that those families had pawned. I have a copy of the pawn ticket(somewhere) and Roger Neufeldt (whom a lot of you probably know) from here in Oklahoma verified it’s authenticity as he has one and knows Thorpe family members. The 2nd photo is of Thorpe’s enrollment information off of Carlisle’s archive. Notice 878 that was assigned to him in 1904 then crossed through and then after he left and came back he was given a new number.

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runred41

11-07-2018, 07:56 PM

This item is a program for a dual track meet and baseball game on same day with Syracuse. Coach Warner wanted to be able to utilize his 2-sport athletes so came up with the idea. There is a lot mentioned about the dual meet with Syracuse in 1908 but so far I have not found any mention of him competing in 1907 against Syracuse. I’m thinking this might be his very first track meet he competed in. He is listed in 4 events but did not place in any of them which further makes me think this represents his very first competition. The student ticket would have been used to get into both events. If anybody ever sees an article about this 1907 track meet I’d sure love to see it!

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Jasonxmay

11-10-2018, 05:51 PM

This is my favorite Thorpe autograph. It's one of only a couple signed cards that I kept when I sold my collection. I've never seen or heard of another one. It's in a PSA holder now.

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runred41

11-12-2018, 05:21 PM

runred41

11-12-2018, 05:38 PM

These are Reach and Spalding pictures from their rule and stat catalogues. Not worth much except to me as they all include Thorpe. First set is from 1914, 2nd set is 1915, 3rd pic is from 1916, 1918 for 4th pic, 1919 for 5th pic and then 1920 for the 6th pic. I have football ones also that I’ll post later.

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runred41

11-13-2018, 04:26 PM

You’ve all seen this postcard yet got to show mine! I was able to finally pick this one up from a collector here in Oklahoma. Pretty decent example of this particular postcard.

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jefferyepayne

11-13-2018, 05:49 PM

Great stuff!

runred41

11-15-2018, 07:59 PM

Here are some more reach and spalding and newspaper items I picked up. The Toledo one is the only one I’ve come across. The newspaper photo of Thorpe long jumping is from a July 24, 1912 newspaper.

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runred41

11-16-2018, 09:44 PM

This almanac is to commemorate/document the 1912 Olympics and is full of pictures of our olympians. It is in beat up condition but for me at least has been very hard to find with Thorpe on the cover. If anybody ever comes across one in much better condition and is not interested in it themselves I’d appreciate a pm about it.

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runred41

11-18-2018, 11:49 AM

This is a postcard advertising the Carlisle vs Villanova game in 1907. Very little can be found about Thorpe’s contribution in 1907. First 3 games were shutouts so he probably didn’t play unless he received the opening or halftime kickoff which perhaps could have happened. My speculation is since he ran 2 kickoff returns for touchdowns against 30-40 players in practice when he tried out for the team that he very well could have been used as a kickoff returner on a highly talented team that included Albert Exendine, Albert Payne, Pete Hauser and Frank Mount Pleasant. Thorpe was listed in lineup for 5th game against Syracuse and played against Penn to replace an injured Payne. It was reported that on his first carry he went opposite way of his blockers and got buried but went 45 yards on his next carry. He definitely ran a kickoff back for a TD against Bucknell in the 6th game of season. Unfortunately for him he didn’t score it though! He let up a few yards from the end zone, got tripped up and fumbled into the end zone where a teammate recovered it for the TD! Most of you have probably seen this one but this one is mine and Thorpe was definitely there!

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cmoore330

11-19-2018, 09:22 PM

runred41

11-19-2018, 09:41 PM

I am from The Enid area right now...I have a lot of 1912 Olympic items I’ll be posting pictures of also. Looks like we collect a lot of the same things.

runred41

11-20-2018, 07:37 PM

This postcard is from the 1908 season...not sure if Thorpe is on the field but a good chance with 18 players shown that he is. With the correct equipment a person might be able to tell or not. Minnesota was one of 2 teams to beat Carlisle in 1908. Thorpe was selected 3rd team All-American in 1908. Most of you have seen this card in the past or one like it I know..it now resides in my collection. I’m going to show some modern cards I’ve picked up over the years along with some of my vintage items so that when I run out of vintage items maybe I won’t bore others with new items.

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runred41

11-22-2018, 10:31 PM

This next item is a program from Carlisle. The program covers the ‘Athletic Celebration And Presentation of Cs for 1908’ held on March 20, 1909. Thorpe is listed as Captain of the track team. I believe it to be a rare program and quickly becoming one of my favorite pieces for sure. Jim is pictured with the baseball team which you rarely see so this program is really special!

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cmoore330

11-25-2018, 08:26 PM

I am from The Enid area right now...I have a lot of 1912 Olympic items I’ll be posting pictures of also. Looks like we collect a lot of the same things.

I’m in Edmond, so not too terribly far away. I’d love to meet up if it ever makes sense. Not too many vintage collectors (or stuff to find) in this part of the world.

runred41

11-25-2018, 09:08 PM

In 1912 Warner really got serious with Thorpe track wise to get him prepared for the Olympic trials starting with the Indooor season. This following program is from the 23rd Annual Indoor Games at Mechanics Hall in Boston on February 10, 1912. Many of the eventual track olympians can be found in the program. Thorpe competed in the 40 dash, 45 hurdles, high jump, 16lb shot, and 3 standing jumps events. Being a track guy I think this is a really nice program!

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runred41

11-25-2018, 09:14 PM

Forgot to send a picture of Mechanics Hall where the meet was held. This is a period postcard.

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Arazi4442

11-26-2018, 11:26 AM

I’m in Edmond, so not too terribly far away. I’d love to meet up if it ever makes sense. Not too many vintage collectors (or stuff to find) in this part of the world.

Looks like the Okies love us some Jim Thorpe. Another Oklahoma kid checking in from Norman.

Great stuff everyone. Did you see the Olympics postcard on the LOTG auction? Very strong price, I thought. I was hoping to upgrade mine but the bidding got out of my league there at the end.

Bored5000

11-26-2018, 02:22 PM

Looks like the Okies love us some Jim Thorpe. Another Oklahoma kid checking in from Norman.

Great stuff everyone. Did you see the Olympics postcard on the LOTG auction? Very strong price, I thought. I was hoping to upgrade mine but the bidding got out of my league there at the end.

I am have long been a Thorpe fan, since I live about 45 minutes from the town that bears his name. I have a PSA 4 of the Thorpe Olympic postcard. I know the one at LOTG was the highest graded, but $6,000 just seems crazy to me when the 4s and 5s of that postcard go for around $1,000 and a "3" closed on eBay for a little over $600 recently. There have been a bunch of the Thorpe Olympic postcards coming out of the woodwork in recent years. I wish the Olympics Heroes postcard from Carlisle of him putting the shot was more common. I suspect that is climbing out of my price range when it does show up.

runred41

11-26-2018, 04:21 PM

Yeah...that recent one went crazy! I finally picked up the Olympic Heroes one of him putting the shot recently...it is indeed a tough one to purchase. Hardly ever see it for sale. I posted the other postcard with Thorpe/Tewanima/Warner so have both now. Makes me think about getting my Thorpe postcard like the one that went 6 grand graded...it’s in pretty good shape..I’d sure take that price if mine was graded an 8(which I’m sure it wouldn’t)

Jasonxmay

11-26-2018, 08:03 PM

I’m an Oklahoman as well. The Thorpe signed 33 Goudey Sportkings that I posted in this thread currently resides with me in Ardmore. I also have a signed leather footprint that Thorpe signed and wrote his mailing address on from when he was fitted for some custom moccasins.

Looks like the Okies love us some Jim Thorpe. Another Oklahoma kid checking in from Norman.

Great stuff everyone. Did you see the Olympics postcard on the LOTG auction? Very strong price, I thought. I was hoping to upgrade mine but the bidding got out of my league there at the end.

cmoore330

11-26-2018, 08:16 PM

Sounds like it’s time for an Oklahoma Thorpe Fans get together! :D

Jasonxmay

11-26-2018, 08:21 PM

I agree. His hometown of Prague is about an hour drive for me. I think that would be an appropriate place to meet up! If anyone else is interested post here and we’ll set it up. I’ll buy dinner for anyone willing to attend.

Jason

Sounds like it’s time for an Oklahoma Thorpe Fans get together! :D

runred41

11-26-2018, 08:42 PM

Would love to see the the leather footprint! I’m game for anything concerning Thorpe!

cmoore330

11-27-2018, 09:59 PM

runred41

11-28-2018, 02:36 PM

On May 18, 1912 Thorpe participated in the Olympic Trials at Celtic Park in NY and secured his spot in the Pentathlon by winning convincingly. On May 24 & 25 he was supposed to compete in the Decathlon trials but when he and just 1 other competitor showed up the event was cancelled and he was later on added to the team based on his performance in the pentathlon trials and reputation as an all around track athlete. In his book ‘Jim Thorpe-A Biography’ William A. Cook writes that Thorpe’s final event prior to the Olympics came on June 8 at the Eastern Olympic Tryouts in Cambridge. In addition to a newspaper article I possess(can’t find it!) in which it states that Thorpe was leaving NY to travel to the Olympic Trials in Cambridge for the selection of the Olympic team that day confirms that Thorpe was in attendance at Cambridge on June 8th. The committee took the winners that day at the Eastern Trials as automatic qualifiers and then filled in the events with other athletes. That is how Thorpe made it in the high jump and long jump and Pentathlon without competing in them at the Trials. The selection was done on June 8 after the day’s competition was over. Following is a program, ticket and panoramic photo(43in X 6.7in) of all the athletes who was up for selection and the officials involved. The photo provided is a photo of a photo as the actual photo is rolled up right now and I don’t want to damage it any further. Ive added the description of the photo from when I bought it. I’ve bought a frame from the 1910’s to have the photo framed but will have a professional do it as they know how to steam them before unrolling them to prevent tears. I know there is a participation/placers certificate and medals from this event...sure would like to add those to this group. I know Thorpe is not in the program nor competed but he most certainly was in attendance so it represents a huge chapter in his life!

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runred41

11-28-2018, 02:45 PM

When I said he was added to the team in the Pentathlon I meant the Decathlon! He would be in the photo though. However, I have not scrutinized it to see if he can be identified.

runred41

11-30-2018, 11:14 PM

Ok..kinda get long winded sometimes so won’t say much this time..needless to say..I like this one!

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epike3

12-01-2018, 05:57 PM

Very nice, thanks for posting! Fun to see the famous names from back then.

runred41

12-04-2018, 02:26 PM

I was about to head off to his Olympic stuff when I came across this 1908 14th Annual Penn Relays Program...kind of forgot about it! Thorpe competed in the Hurdles and high jump at this meet and won the high jump. 1908 was still early in his track career for sure. Thorpe actually tried out for the 1908 Olympics in the high jump but did not make the team while his teammates Louis Tewanima and Frank Mount Pleasant did.

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runred41

12-07-2018, 06:39 PM

To get the athletes and officials to the 1912 Olympics the Olympic committee rented the SS Finland to get them all there. A small track was installed, pool installed with harness for the swimmers among other things to allow the athletes to train. The discus throwers even drilled a hole in a discus and attached a rope to it and threw it it off the deck and then retrieved it with the rope! I have many favorite things in my collection but this one might be at the very top considering I’m a track guy! This is a passenger list for the SS Finland for the sailing to the Olympics! Only seen one of these in the years I’ve been collecting. Check out General Patton on the list also as he participated in the modern pentathlon in the 1912 Olympics!

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runred41

12-10-2018, 08:26 PM

I’ll have to back track later to show my inauguration of the stadium ticket and opening day ticket for the 1912 Olympics..just can’t locate them right now. I have several tickets for various events that Jim Thorpe was at and the one shown here is for July 12, 1912 when he long jumped 22ft 7in to place 7th that day. 2nd picture shows era real photo postcards of the SS Finland that took the team to the Olympics, 3rd and 4th photo shows various views of the Olympic stadium, 5th photo is of a stadium press pin that whoever interviewed him had to have been wearing and an ashtray sold as a souvenir and then lastly more cards. These particular cards have 2 sides so last 2 photos are of same cards and their reverse sides.

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runred41

12-13-2018, 06:19 PM

In 1912 the Decathlon was a 3 day event that started on July 13th and finished on July 15th. It is a 2 day event now. This ticket is a stadium ticket for the first day of the Decathlon competition. The 2nd picture is of a stadium plaque depicting the entrance of the stadium that is one of 2 bronze plaques considered at the time to be the top souvenir offered at the games. Last picture is of more cards in my collection.

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55koufax

12-16-2018, 12:37 PM

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runred41

12-16-2018, 05:01 PM

Oh my! What a beautiful card! Doesn’t get any better for the 1955!

55koufax

12-16-2018, 11:28 PM

Easy to see the reason Joe selected #37 in the '55 AA's as one of the TOP 250..

Just an epic card!

runred41

12-20-2018, 09:51 PM

This next ticket is for day 2 of 3 days of the Decathlon...hope to get a ticket for the third day someday! After 3rd event on day 1 Thorpe took the lead and never relinquished it! 2nd photo are pages from a baseball magazine that came out just before the Olympics. 3rd/4th picture is of a Swedish Olympic program that has a map of venues, restaurants etc...5th photo is of a stamp that was sold for raising money for the Olympics and also a photo of Thorpe at Olympics taken by ‘The N.Y.H. Service’.

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Joe Hunter

12-21-2018, 02:24 PM

Early 1900’s Fashion Plate

runred41

12-21-2018, 04:37 PM

Never seen that! Did that come out of a magazine? I’m not familiar with what a Fashion Plate is...can you tell us more about its origin?

Joe Hunter

12-21-2018, 06:45 PM

Sure. Back in the day, clothing retailers would have large, fashion books highlighting the latest clothing lines along with fabric samples for customers to select from. The pages were made of thick cardboard about 16”x 20” which is the size of this plate. To ad some variety to the book, manufacturers would include some pages of interest other than simply fabric and clothes. This piece is framed and matted, but as I recall, the back of it had fabric swaths on it. There is one fashion plate that I’ve seen but I don’t own, that pictures one of the Yankees teams of the 1920’s. I own two other plates, one is a generic baseball player in his uniform with the same player next to him in a suit and straw hat. The other is a generic golfer in the latest golf fashion. There are some plates out there that picture famous players, such as Ty Cobb, modeling suits, etc. These usually bring pretty good money. These are really getting hard to find.

jefferyepayne

12-21-2018, 07:23 PM

Exactly. These are extremely tough to find. Have never seen that Thorpe before. Nice piece!

I have this Royal Taylor of Frank Gotch who was a world champion wrestler in the 1910s.

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Have it framed and hanging over my display case.

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runred41

12-21-2018, 07:54 PM

Thanks for the info! Dang....find me one of Thorpe and let me know! I bet they are extremely hard to find...thanks for showing it!

runred41

12-21-2018, 07:59 PM

What’s also cool about that piece is that is what Thorpe studied at Carlisle...Haberdashery and Tailoring!

Joe Hunter

12-21-2018, 08:00 PM

Wow. That’s a beautiful plate and stunning display. Here is my baseball plate. Some have said the guy resembles Christy Mathewson, but I don’t think so.

Joe Hunter

12-21-2018, 08:05 PM

Didn’t know that about Thorpe and his college major. That is quite interesting and ironic.

cmoore330

12-25-2018, 09:29 PM

Got this for the collection. 1916 Indiana Yearbook when Thorpe spent one season as an assistant coach. As you can imagine, he was heavily featured including a two page spread. 338538338539338540338541338542338543338544

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runred41

12-27-2018, 06:18 PM

This is an original Bain photo of Thorpe throwing at the AAU All Around Championships on September 2; 1912. I had not looked at this photo in 10 years and I originally posted it here as an Olympic photo but I just realized Thorpe was not in his Olympic uniform but his Carlisle uniform so he is actually competing at Celtic Park in the photo! Really kind of thrilled because I did not think I had an original item from that meet!...first 2 photos show front and back of it. Photo 3 has some oddball items, 4th photo is of a watch fob souvenir, a pin and a bronze plaque of the stadium from the Olympics. Rest of the photos are of various stickers and cards that are primarily foreign issues. I’ve taken front and back of them and they are in same order so you can compare fronts to their backs. The very last photo is of items with blank backs except for the pep stamp.

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jefferyepayne

12-29-2018, 05:03 PM

Great stuff! Love that type 1 photo of Thorpe throwing the discus. I've been looking for a copy of that photo for a long time. Also love that autographed RPPC of Thorpe in his track uniform. That's really special.

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cmoore330

12-29-2018, 08:27 PM

Here's an article written by Thorpe (unlikely) from October 1912 edition of The American Boy magazine. It's a neat large format publication. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181230/489258ceb9afe49e507e65b06e7f9430.jpg

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TimCarrollArt

12-30-2018, 11:47 AM

Finished this Sport Kings this morning. Cut common football cards.

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Duluth Eskimo

01-01-2019, 05:28 PM

Wow. That art is awesome. Love this one.

runred41

01-03-2019, 11:51 PM

A little old and a little new again.

National Police Gazette November 2, 1912:

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Various newspaper clippings, postcards, and Dubble Bubble Strip:

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Various 1912 Olympics souvenirs/badges:

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Giant Postcard and Memorial Dedication Program:

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Reprint team photo and Nicaragua Picture:

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U.S. Olympic Bank Note Engraving/Thorpe Memorial PC/Coin Cards:

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Era Postcards of places in Oklahoma where Thorpe frequented as a young person and Haskell, KS where he attended in 1898. Born in 1887 according to his baptismal certificate yet he claims he was born in 1888. He was born in Bellemont , Oklahoma. Generally, Prague is considered his home town but he also referenced Shawnee, Oklahoma as his home town. These postcards show what the places looked like while he was frequenting those towns:

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Belgium Sportsalbum...shows results of the 1912 Olympics:

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Michael B

01-05-2019, 09:48 PM

I commented in the postcard thread that I have a few photos of Native American Olympians in my archives. There was a reply that someone would like to see some of them. I thought this may be the appropriate place to show them. I have the 1912 Olympics postcard of Thorpe, but it was already posted so no reason for me to post mine. I picked it up in Sweden from someone who had multiples of almost every card in the set. I have also seen the complete set of cards in a display at the Gothenburg Sports Museum which has one of the largest collections of 1912 Olympics memorabilia. The collection was amassed by 1952 and 1956 Olympian Lars Hindmar. I met him at the World Olympic Collector's Fair in Gothenburg where he was still purchasing items at 94 years of age. As I collect Olympic photographs and autographs I generally pass on other items unless they are part of a lot that has photos or the price is ridiculously low and I can make a few dollars to purchase more for my archives. I have a large number of photos of Pre-WWI Olympians and many more of Pre-WWII Olympians. If I have one and someone would like to see a scan let me know. Anyway here are some interesting ones:

Amasoli Patasoni - A Zuni from New Mexico. He went to Haskell Institute in Kansas. Competed in the 10,000m and Cross Country Race at the 1920 Olympics in Antwerp. Very little is known about him, not even his date of death. Two photos from 1920 and one from 1922

Frank Mount Pleasant - Member of the Tuscarora Nation in New York. He attended The Carlisle School and Dickinson College. He competed in the long jump and triple jump at the 1908 Olympics. He coached football at the Indiana Normal School, now Indiana University of Pennsylvania, 1911-1913. Photo shows him competing in the long jump at the 1908 Olympic Trials.

Wilson 'Buster' Charles - Member of the Oneida Tribe. He attended Haskell Institute where he played on the football and basketball teams. He competed in the decathlon at the 1932 Olympics. Photo shows him competing in the Olympics.

Clarence 'Taffy' Abel - Member of the Soo Nation. He won a silver medal in ice hockey at the 1924 Olympics. He is also the only Native American to carry the United States flag at the Opening Ceremony of the Olympics. He would join the NHL and become the first American Olympian to win the Stanley Cup when he did it with the New York Rangers in 1928. Photo shows him in 1924 with the Olympic team manager.

Lewis Tewanima - A member of the Hopi Nation. He attended The Carlisle School and was a classmate of Jim Thorpe. He competed in the 1908 and 1912 Olympics. He won a silver medal in the 10,000m in Stockholm. The first photo shows him with a group of U.S. athletes on their way to Stockholm in 1912. He can be seen in the back row. Sitting in the front row with a stuffed bear in one hand and a cigarette in the other is Howard Drew. One of the great early Black runners. He would twice set a world record in the 100 yard dash. The person sitting two away from his right appears to be Andrew Sockalexis, though I cannot confirm as I do not own a photo of him. The second photo shows him leading in the final of the 10,000 meter race.

Lastly a Culver Archive reprint of Thorpe from the Olympic Meet in New York, June 12, 1912 at Highland Park.

Jobu

01-05-2019, 10:34 PM

Great thread! I have three things to add:

1922-23 Type 1 photo of Jim Thorpe, Joe Guyon, Elmer Busch, and Peter Calac from their brief time on the Oorang Indians
RPPC of Elmer Busch from his time at Carlisle
Photo of Thorpe with the Giants - not sure of the type

Michael B

01-06-2019, 02:23 AM

Runred41 - The item from Nicaragua is called a souvenir sheet to stamp collectors. The reprint photo you have with Thorpe just above the souvenir sheet was taken June 12, 1912 at the Olympic tune up meet at Highland Park in New York City.. This was a Bain News Service photo. I have the right and left continuations of this photo. There are four members of the New York Athletic Club to the left of Thorpe. The two in the middle are brothers Ben Adams and Platt Adams. They both won medals in Stockholm. Other athletes in this photo are Hal Heiland, Xavier Athletic Club, on the far right, George Horine, Olympic Club, next to him, Tell Berna, Cornell, second from the left and Walter McClure, Multnomah Athletic Club, third from the left.

runred41

01-06-2019, 02:28 AM

Here are some more track photos. The semi-nude photos are right after the Olympics. Sports scientists which was in its infancy took body measurements of Thorpe for reference due to his dominating performance in the Olympics. I did get permission from Leon to post them.

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01-06-2019, 02:34 AM

Michael B

01-06-2019, 09:29 PM

Another Native American. Tom Longboat, member of the Onondaga Nation in Canada. Won the 1907 Boston Marathon. He was allowed to compete for Canada at the 1908 Olympics despite very questionable amateur status. He would drop out at 20 miles. The postcard shows the marathoners leaving the grounds of Windsor Castle with Longboat (#72) at the lead on the left. Behind him is Dorando Pietri (#19) who was disqualified for being helped across the finish line at Wembley Stadium. This postcard was mailed from London to A. Roy Welton, the fourth place finisher in the race and the runner at the extreme right in the photo. I acquired Welton's 1908 Olympic scrapbooks which included this postcard, his Olympic competitor's numbers, his 1908 Boston Marathon number and 100 pages of newspaper articles on the Olympics.

runred41

01-09-2019, 10:23 PM

Just a step back as I found my 1912 Inauguration of Olympic stadium ticket...hope to find my opening day ticket at some point! I have a piece of history relating to the building of the stadium in the form of a ‘lottery ticket’. A lottery was instituted to raise funds to build the stadium.

Lottery ticket and information about the lottery:

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Inauguration ticket and postcards of inauguration:

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Postcards etc...

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Different reprints:

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runred41

01-12-2019, 11:11 PM

After the Olympics the track team went on a 3 track meet and reception tour before returning to the U.S. One of those meets was on July 23, 1912 at Parc Pommery near Reims, France. Interesting to note is that a rested Jim Thorpe won the 100M Hurdles at the meet defeating Fred Kelly who was the Olympic champ. In a reception given by Coubertin the team and dignitaries were given bronze medallions/plaques to commemorate the event. Following is a postcard of Parc Pommery track meet and a medallion from the reception.

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runred41

01-17-2019, 07:01 PM

This is a 1912 Olympic Games Report Book Presentation Edition. It is one of 2500 deluxe copies that was bound in leather. These copies were presented to special dignitaries and financiers for the Olympics. This copy is attributed to Herman Gotthardt who was a world renowned art collector of Swedish, Finnish, Danish and Norwegian art who helped finance the Olympics. These presentation editions along with those sold to the general public without the leather covers are some of the very few reports that list James Thorpe as winner of Pentathlon and Decathlon as early January 1913 is when the professional baseball scandal broke which led to his disqualification at the time. Any report after January 1913 didn’t list him as the winner. This one is in fantastic condition.

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August 24, 1912 original photos of Thorpe in the New York ticker tape parade held for the victorious Olympic athletes. Thorpe is in lead car with the hat on.

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Various reprints of pre/post Olympic meets:

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Cards:

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runred41

01-19-2019, 11:15 PM

My collecting focus is to try to recreate through items/memorabilia from events of Jim Thorpe’s life. Although this medal is not attributed to Thorpe himself..the following was a medal given to the victorious athletes from the citizens of NY upon their return from the Olympics. Thorpe would have received one just like it. The medal had a horizontal top bar with a pin in order to attach it to one’s clothing. I’ve been fortunate to pick up 2 of these. I’ve seen a pennant that was sold to commemorate the occasion also..just didn’t win that one. On the front it says...’New York Greetings’. On the back it says..’Presented By The Citizens Of The City Of New York Commemorating The “Home Coming” Of The Victorious American Team From The Olympic Games Stockholm 1912’

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Cards numbered to 25,50,100:

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Cards numbered to 99, 10:

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Cards numbered to 5, 25:

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Cards numbered to 25(spotlight), 25(Hawaiian), 50, 100, 599:

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