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Runscott
02-29-2016, 11:22 AM
Here's an odd little photo I couldn't pass up. Any thoughts on what this bibbed shirt represents? It's hard to see, but his pants are vertically striped.
I have been looking at this since you posted. I can't place it but, as you know, a lot of different activities sported those back in the day.. A fireman like this could be possible?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RARE-TINTYPE-FIREMAN-FIREMEN-in-UNIFORM-BROTHERS-BIB-BELT-FIRE-OCCUPATIONAL-/291694055909?hash=item43ea5211e5:g:uoIAAOSwAL9Uk5d q
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Runscott
02-29-2016, 02:38 PM
Yeah, almost any bibbed jersey can be a fireman - I think the multi-striped pants make this guy something different. I'm leaning toward some sort of organization;e.g-Masons, but something else.
WillowGrove
02-29-2016, 03:26 PM
Scott when I saw it my very first reaction was it looked like a Pennsylvania Dutch emblem. They would be put on barns beginning in the 1840s. Trying to attach an image from my phone...
Nashvol
02-29-2016, 06:23 PM
I'm wondering if what looks like a six shooter on the floor underneath the chair is a clue...
vintagesportscollector
02-29-2016, 07:57 PM
Scott when I saw it my very first reaction was it looked like a Pennsylvania Dutch emblem. They would be put on barns beginning in the 1840s. Trying to attach an image from my phone...
That was exactly my same immediate reaction too, but comparing the two now, I don't think the bib is Penn Dutch.
Huysmans
03-01-2016, 04:48 AM
While I can't place the bibbed shirt...
It should be noted that striped pants were a common fashion of the era, and it probably has nothing to do with a "sports uniform".
Also, given the apparent age of the individual, I highly doubt he relates to any sport.
You might be right regarding it as being some kind of Mason or fraternal organization outfit Scott. Hopefully you can uncover more info.
Brent
Runscott
03-01-2016, 09:28 AM
While I can't place the bibbed shirt...
It should be noted that striped pants were a common fashion of the era, and it probably has nothing to do with a "sports uniform".
Also, given the apparent age of the individual, I highly doubt he relates to any sport.
You might be right regarding it as being some kind of Mason or fraternal organization outfit Scott. Hopefully you can uncover more info.
Brent
It's not easy to see, but this isn't a single stripe - there are probably 6 stripes on each pant leg, but not in an attractive way;i.e-'not pinstriping'.
ramram
03-01-2016, 12:57 PM
I think he's sporting the pants and shirt that Sister Rosie made for him. (ala "puffy shirt" on Seinfeld)
"Thanks Sis!"
Runscott
03-01-2016, 01:56 PM
You might be close. Some Civil War companies, especially Southern, had fancy shirts that were made for them by the local ladies. This guy is from the 3rd Mississippi Infantry, Company C - the 'Sunflower Dispersers'. The only multi-striped pants I'm aware of were some companies of Louisiana Zuoaves, but they were very puffy.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a8/87/93/a88793b0cfcdf30269d75be428883509.jpg
Runscott
03-01-2016, 02:08 PM
Here's an interesting blog regarding two men in odd shirts, one with a flower/star. Below his image is a Civil War soldier who was in the Navy
http://blog.familytreemagazine.com/photodetectiveblog/2010/01/05/TexasTwosomeRevisited.aspx
(http://blog.familytreemagazine.com/photodetectiveblog/2009/09/22/TwoTexasMysteries.aspx)
http://blog.familytreemagazine.com/photodetectiveblog/images/092109img041%20%285%29.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/71/03/0f/71030f8f18928b9b2f11986ce71e431b.jpg
1880nonsports
03-01-2016, 05:34 PM
not a six-shooter. Rather it's a stand used to keep an inebriated Penn dutch guy standing upright for his mom. Seriously though - looking a bit like a coat rack - meant to keep the subject still. I believe what you are referring to is one of the legs of the apparatus?
Runscott
03-01-2016, 06:11 PM
not a six-shooter. Rather it's a stand used to keep an inebriated Penn dutch guy standing upright for his mom. Seriously though - looking a bit like a coat rack - meant to keep the subject still. I believe what you are referring to is one of the legs of the apparatus?
Haha. Yeah, I got excited when he mentioned "pistol" - but as you say, it's part of the furniture!
Nashvol
03-01-2016, 11:07 PM
not a six-shooter. Rather it's a stand used to keep an inebriated Penn dutch guy standing upright for his mom. Seriously though - looking a bit like a coat rack - meant to keep the subject still. I believe what you are referring to is one of the legs of the apparatus?
Could be, not sure. I didn't say "pistol" but still hard to say exactly. A lot of fun to consider all angles, wouldn't you say? I love this stuff...
Runscott
03-02-2016, 04:19 PM
Found a website that states that the printed paper cases were used from 1861-63, then they became embossed.
I'm leaning toward this being a Partisan Ranger or Guerrilla shirt. They were often one-off creations, so I might not see another. In any event, I needed an early tintype for the interactive display David and I are doing in June, so this fits the bill nicely.
Thanks for all the ideas.