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ezez420
02-13-2016, 11:30 AM
Hope someone didnt buy this Aaron as you may get an empty envelope. Funny how many of these auctions emulate from Chicago area. Here is the one that sold for $950 today but sold for $1125 one week before to another buyer. Maybe someone else can figure out but usually people dont volunteer to lose $400 in one week.


Fake listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-128-Henry-Hank-Aaron-Rookie-Card-PSA-4-/161976786471?hash=item25b6919e27%3Ag%3AUyQAAOSw%7E OVWvr%7EW&autorefresh=true&nma=true&si=W12z%252Fjm0CTT2sVnhrpHAgmRTV7s%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Real listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-Hank-Aaron-Rookie-Psa-4-VG-Ex-Gorgeous-4-/151968289147?hash=item236204117b:g:vgUAAOSwGotWrVl s

CW
02-13-2016, 12:11 PM
When a seller who primarily sells cell phones and cell phone accessories suddenly has a $1K+ baseball card for sale it is time to run.... run far, FAR away!!

Peter_Spaeth
02-13-2016, 12:29 PM
How did the fake guy get that psychedelic picture??

Jobu
02-13-2016, 02:33 PM
That groovy picture is what happens when you take a picture of your computer screen. Oddly, he downloaded the pic of the back from the original listing to post in his fake listing but decided not to do the same for the front. Perhaps an attempt to make the cert # harder to read?

I don't know if it would help my case or not, but when I buy something expensive from Ebay I take a close up video of the sealed package, labels and tape especially, and then film myself opening it without ever letting the package leave the shot. I have never gotten burned (knock on wood) so have never had to do anything with the video, but it might come in handy if someone ever sends me an 87 Topps Jim Gantner instead of what I bought. Also important, in the case of getting burned, would be to keep every piece of the package to pair with your video evidence. It might not hold up but it would be a hell of a lot better than having nothing or solely the testimony of a friend or family member.

mechanicalman
02-13-2016, 04:51 PM
That groovy picture is what happens when you take a picture of your computer screen. Oddly, he downloaded the pic of the back from the original listing to post in his fake listing but decided not to do the same for the front. Perhaps an attempt to make the cert # harder to read?

I don't know if it would help my case or not, but when I buy something expensive from Ebay I take a close up video of the sealed package, labels and tape especially, and then film myself opening it without ever letting the package leave the shot. I have never gotten burned (knock on wood) so have never had to do anything with the video, but it might come in handy if someone ever sends me an 87 Topps Jim Gantner instead of what I bought. Also important, in the case of getting burned, would be to keep every piece of the package to pair with your video evidence. It might not hold up but it would be a hell of a lot better than having nothing or solely the testimony of a friend or family member.

From someone who got burned like this, this is a very sound practice. Another is to open the package in the presence of the post office personnel. I had a three month battle to recoup almost $5k because I received an empty package. It wasn't settled until the post office manager wrote an affidavit attesting to the incorrect weight.

earlywynnfan
02-13-2016, 05:08 PM
Emailed the second seller, and he said his account was hijacked and he's already reached out to the buyer.

Q: how does this happen? If someone hijacks my account, would I see the item in my "sale" section? When it's paid for, does it go to MY paypal?

xplainer
02-13-2016, 06:27 PM
Emailed the second seller, and he said his account was hijacked and he's already reached out to the buyer.

Q: how does this happen? If someone hijacks my account, would I see the item in my "sale" section? When it's paid for, does it go to MY paypal?

I don't understand either. Don't you know what is going on in your account?
Yeah, and emails saying your accounted has been added to. Strange indeed.

begsu1013
02-13-2016, 06:59 PM
ebay suffered a hack about 8 months or so ago.

the hackers only got dormant account handles and passwords.

so 99% of the folks have absolutely no clue that their account got hacked.

i've got pretty good at spotting these and there are some tips included in how to thwart/protect yourself....

i still pull the trigger if there's a chance simply because i know exactly how to not make it a nightmare should it be bogus...

so far outta 5 attempts only 1 was an actual deal.

https://forums.collectors.com/messageview.aspx?catid=11&threadid=950413&highlight_key=y&keyword1=odds

Peter_Spaeth
02-13-2016, 07:06 PM
This was a very active account, and recently.

begsu1013
02-13-2016, 07:18 PM
hmm. maybe they did get access to active accounts as well and have just burned thru all the dormant ones first.

that would be truly scary.

who knows these days.

if some of these folks actually put the thought/time/effort to some sort of legitimate enterprise, they'd have no reason to do any of this...

ball of confusion.

Jobu
02-13-2016, 08:11 PM
Let this conversation serve as a reminder to all: change your Ebay passwords.

irv
02-14-2016, 01:23 PM
Let this conversation serve as a reminder to all: change your Ebay passwords.

Yep, received an e-mail months ago about a possible attack on my account.

Finally got around to changing it yesterday (been years since I used it) and I changed it to something that came up as "strong" meaning it will be difficult to hack.
Doesn't mean it's fool proof, but it makes them work for it, and possibly give up on it.

I suggest various capitals, numbers and symbols like these !@#$%^&* mixed in/throughout.

Shoebox
02-14-2016, 01:58 PM
Emailed the second seller, and he said his account was hijacked and he's already reached out to the buyer.

Q: how does this happen? If someone hijacks my account, would I see the item in my "sale" section? When it's paid for, does it go to MY paypal?

I was recently the victim of a eBay hacker. My ebay account was compromised and the criminal decided to list PS4 gaming systems at a BIN price of $35. Now no reasonable person should believe that anyone would be selling a $300+ video game systems for this price but this guy found over 30 suckers in a matter of minutes! I was sitting enjoying a Christmas Eve night with my family when literally my phone began blowing up with notifications regarding my eBay account. I didn't have any items listed for sale so I knew something was wrong and immediately started taking action. I was locked out of my account as the hacker had changed my password. I had to retrieve access through my email account and then take down the listing but not before 36 gaming systems had been purchased in less than the hour that the listing was up. I am almost exclusively a buyer on ebay and have only sold a handful of items in the past 15 years so there I am trying to figure out just how I am supposed to resolve this. I had no idea where exactly to start and since it was 9 pm on Christmas Eve couldn't get any live assistance. I am still not clear on what exactly the hacker did, but none of the money paid by the buyers went into my PayPal account. Some buyers reported to me receiving shipping confirmation emails of the purchase even that I don't know how were sent. It was a complete pain in the butt even after I was able to get assistance from eBay and I thought it had been fully resolved, but just about 2 weeks ago I got a message from ebay saying my seller account was being restricted due to the poor seller ratings and experience. So apparently even though the fraudulent sales don't show on my account and I have a 100% feedback score ebay must be holding these fraudulent sales against me. If I actually planned to sell anything through there I might worry about it more. I know this situation is different than an account being hijacked long enough to run a week long auction but it is certainly something that can happen to you if you don't have precautions in place. My account was only compromised for less than an hour. Had I not had my ebay account set to send notifications to my phone it might have been a full day, maybe 2 (It was Christmas after all) before I bothered to look at my email or ebay account and if the hacker had thought to deactivate notifications/emails on the account prior to making his listing that is likely what would have happened. Who knows how many people would have been scammed had the listing remained up that long.

Stingray
02-15-2016, 05:50 PM
Wonder what that Aaron would have graded without that paper loss on that back corner??

Stingray
02-22-2016, 05:25 AM
Wonder what that Aaron would have graded without that paper loss on that back corner??

4815162342
02-22-2016, 08:18 AM
Yep, received an e-mail months ago about a possible attack on my account.



Finally got around to changing it yesterday (been years since I used it) and I changed it to something that came up as "strong" meaning it will be difficult to hack.

Doesn't mean it's fool proof, but it makes them work for it, and possibly give up on it.



I suggest various capitals, numbers and symbols like these !@#$%^&* mixed in/throughout.


https://lastpass.com

With Lastpass, you create one and only one really secure password that you can remember (or write it down and put it in your wallet), and then let the software create random, maximum length and complexity passwords (that you will never have to remember) for each of your website accounts. That way if one of your passwords is compromised, it won't work on other sites, since they're different for each one.