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GregMitch34
02-05-2016, 07:08 PM
I started a thread awhile back asking about current success rates (guessing) on SGC to PSA as I was about to try my first, so thought I would mention the results in case it is informative. Of course, I had been warned to expect little or NO success---especially with the cards still in their holders--but of course some people I imagine submit real long shots and others try not to.

Anyway, I was 3 for 8. But in every case I was looking only for a straight cross, not a bump--and one 5.5 t206 HOF I was willing to accept a 5 and did not get. I did get a t206 5 and a 5.5. that crossed and a 4.5 CJ 14. Others--all strong candidates, I thought-- failed, even with great centering helping out. Make of it what you will.

glchen
02-05-2016, 07:23 PM
Did you crack out or submit the crossover within the SGC holder?

sreader3
02-05-2016, 07:28 PM
I am 2-for-6 crossing holdered SGC to PSA at same grade. Have never gotten a bump.

I cracked and submitted to PSA two of the SGC cards that PSA wouldn't cross at same grade and (surprise, surprise) they both graded -- one at same grade and one with a half-point bump.

I have come to the conclusion that the PSA crossover service is, how do I put it politely, an unwise expenditure.

NOTE: I should say that I thought the six SGC holdered cards I submitted to PSA for cross were all good candidates for a same-grade cross -- I wouldn't say that about all of my SGC cards.

pokerplyr80
02-05-2016, 07:31 PM
I tried twice without cracking, a bvg 7.5 68 ryan, tried to cross to a psa 7, no luck, and an sgc 4, tried for a psa 4. I did not crack either beforehand. 0 for 2 if you're keeping score.

xplainer
02-05-2016, 07:38 PM
In my very limited experience, you need to bust them out. It almost a "they said this, what do you say" thing.

ullmandds
02-05-2016, 07:38 PM
I cracked out my green SGC CobbY...graded 50... Brought it to PSA and got VG plus .

Had a 33 GoudeybRuth yellow background sgc grated authentic ... Cracked it and submitted it to PSA and got a four .

Rookiemonster
02-05-2016, 07:41 PM
I would never submit in a holder . It gives them ideas .

sreader3
02-05-2016, 07:50 PM
I would never submit in a holder . It gives them ideas .

I agree. Also, the PSA grader is probably instructed to be hyper-convinced the card will meet their grading criteria before busting the card out of the non-PSA holder. Not great for the customer, although crossover attempt may still make sense in certain cases e.g. card is of such high value that crack-and-submit is a too big of a risk to take.

xplainer
02-05-2016, 08:08 PM
I would never submit in a holder . It gives them ideas .
Exactly what I said. Always bust it out.

xplainer
02-05-2016, 08:15 PM
I agree. Also, the PSA grader is probably instructed to be hyper-convinced the card will meet their grading criteria before busting the card out of the non-PSA holder. Not great for the customer, although crossover attempt may still make sense in certain cases e.g. card is of such high value that crack-and-submit is a too big of a risk to take.

Yes, this why I would advise busting it out (except high dollar cards). Read the above quote again.

frankbmd
02-05-2016, 08:31 PM
I recently cracked out 20 "old" GAI T206s and submitted them to SGC.

Several with minor paper loss on the back had been overgraded and they did receive lower grades, which I expected.

All of them were encapsulated and received number grades. Apart from the paper loss group, they crossed fairly well with a few marginally higher, a few the same and a few marginally lower. I was not pleasantly surprised, except for the fact that all were graded.

When the time comes to sell, they will do better in he SGC holder than with the GAI label, despite the overall grade reduction. I am a believer in cracking before submitting.

Jobu
02-05-2016, 08:49 PM
I have seen the Youtube videos on cracking BVG and PSA. Does anyone have tips on cracking GAI and ASA?

GregMitch34
02-05-2016, 08:49 PM
The ones I submitted were all holdered.

kmac32
02-05-2016, 09:01 PM
I recently tried crossing a PSA 4 vg ex over to SGC and the cards came nack Authentic. No explanation so I need to call. How can a PSA gaded 4 only get Authentic from SGC? Not a big deal as it was not a high dollar card, but send a justification for why as I am a little skeptica lon this one.

jfkheat
02-05-2016, 09:02 PM
I would never submit in a holder . It gives them ideas .

A couple months ago I submitted two SGC graded 1954 Red Heart cards to PSA for crossover. Both crossed to the same grade, an 8 and a 9.
James