The Leon Luckey Type Card Collection – Bidding Ends on Thursday - August 13, 2015

[petecld]

Hi Everyone,

Just a reminder that bidding for the Leon Luckey Type Card Collection ends in just two days! Open bidding closes at 10:00 pm central time on Thursday - August 13, 2015. There is an incredible selection of items you may not see again for a long time. There are so many unique pieces with something for everyone. The 620 lot auction offers cards, postcards, packaging, wrappers, signs, company correspondence, proofs, premiums, photos and more. Hopefully there is something for everyone!

We had a record number of catalog requests. When the dust settled as they say, Heritage received over 100 email requests for catalogs which included almost a dozen new bidders to our auctions. Plus we handed I don’t even know how many more catalogs at the National Convention in Chicago.

As I mentioned, open bidding ends at 10:00 pm central time on Thursday - August 13, 2015. You do have to have placed a bid on a lot before this time in order to bid in the extended session. Each lot ends on our 30-minute clock rule which means starting at 10:00 pm if a lot goes for 30 minutes without a bid that lot will close. You can view the lots here:

http://sports.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Ns=&N=55+793+794+1577+2088+4294949654&ic4=SortBy-071515


If you have any questions please ask now. The night of the auction gets busy and with the East Coast National going on we might be a little short staffed.

Thank you to everyone who asked for a catalog and good luck to all!

Peter Calderon

[mrvster]

dying to see what the matty proof and the multi strike scrap go for!:eek:

wish I could afford either!:mad:

a design change proof has not been offered !!! and matty to boot:eek:

the multi strike is just ridiculous.....I remember bidding on that on ebay years ago and not even coming close :mad:...........

wow.....

good luck with the rest of the lots, but you know i'll be eating popcorn watching these 2 particular dream cards get auctioned off before my very eyes:o

[j_cook]

I will make my futile attempt to win some lots!

[BeanTown]

I will make my futile attempt to win some lots!

+1

It will be hard to partner with anyone for this upcoming auction.

[shernan30]

Just went back through the auction and saw a lot of what I initially wanted is already over my budget. There are still a few items I'm planning to take a stab at, but I'm not expecting good outcomes.

[Eggoman]

It looks like I will have to be satisfied with the fact that I WAS the High Bidder on a few items for a few days....

[Leon]

It looks like I will have to be satisfied with the fact that I WAS the High Bidder on a few items for a few days....

There are still many lots that probably have some meat left on the bone. Thanks for the well wishes and thanks to Heritage and Peter C for helping with the collection. Its been interesting watching the bids and I am sure tonight will be no different. I hope everyone gets something they want.

Johnny- Matty proof and Mullaney seem to be doing fine.

[Rich Klein]

Open Up the Chat Room?

[Leon]

Open Up the Chat Room?

Maybe Brian will get to it later on. He is techy, me not so much.

[iowadoc77]

My bids are in and they are safe FOR NOW...
will be a late night for sure, unless I just bid it up and let it ride...
The suspense is killing me!:D

[Leon]

Suspense? Nah, just going "all in" with no reserve on a ton of things with no price history. No big deal...:eek:


My bids are in and they are safe FOR NOW...
will be a late night for sure, unless I just bid it up and let it ride...
The suspense is killing me!:D

[ullmandds]

There are still many lots that probably have some meat left on the bone. Thanks for the well wishes and thanks to Heritage and Peter C for helping with the collection. Its been interesting watching the bids and I am sure tonight will be no different. I hope everyone gets something they want.

Johnny- Matty proof and Mullaney seem to be doing fine.

more like gristle!!!!:D

[GregMitch34]

I suppose it is improper Leon for you to offer tips on a few things that seem to be "bargains" right now? I know it might seem to some that you are trying to bid them up but since I am the one asking surely you could not be accused of doing that...As you say it is hard to judge with little or no value trail on so many of them........

[Leon]

I have said this to many friends, I will tell anyone and everyone anything they want to know pertaining to my collection. I want them to bid with the most information they can have.
Obviously I have a very vested interest but I also know more about these particular cards than most do. I have already answered plenty of questions privately. Some things I paid a ton for will go for very little and things I have virtually nothing into will go for a lot. Some things are already way higher than I expected, others not so much.

And there are a ton of things that are too rare for their own good. The market dictates the pricing. But otherwise, I am skipping my 2 softball games tonight (which are very important to me) to be around to watch *(and answer any questions I can)....

And lastly, as I told another friend and board member today, don't forget about Heritage's extended payment options. That seemed to help his dilemma of getting shut out and not being able to circle back, with the single lot by lot closing style. Anyone can PM, email or call me if they have special circumstances too. Heritage has given me a bit of leeway on a case by case basis, in length of payment terms for my collection, to help collectors be able to bid more. :) But if no arrangements are made otherwise, of course their regular rules apply. See their website for details.



I suppose it is improper Leon for you to offer tips on a few things that seem to be "bargains" right now? I know it might seem to some that you are trying to bid them up but since I am the one asking surely you could not be accused of doing that...As you say it is hard to judge with little or no value trail on so many of them........

[mrvster]

Good Luck tonight!:)

[brian1961]

Leon -- Wishing the auction of your collection the very best of success and fulfillment. I'm sure you put a great deal of time, effort, and enjoyment into building your array of Type cards. For so many of them, it may be said, "you don't come across this one very often." ---Brian Powell

[tonyo]

about 3 weeks ago I made note of 24 lots I thought I might have a snowball's chance on....... I just reviewed all of them and placed a bid on the only one of them my budget can still justify. In the lead for now!

Good Luck Leon, I can't imagine the emotional roller coaster you must be on!

Tony

[Jobu]

Good luck to Leon and to everyone else*


* Note: these well wishes do not apply to the item that I want most :D

[Jewish-collector]

It's just so easy to click & bid on the lots. And if you're worrying about paying for the lot and/or lots, just say to yourself, "Sometimes you gotta say, WTF"

[shernan30]

It's just so easy to click & bid on the lots. And if you're worrying about paying for the lot and/or lots, just say to yourself, "Sometimes you gotta say, WTF"

+1

[ZachS]

Does Heritage accept Paypal or only personal checks?

[petecld]

Hi Zach,

Yes, Heritage does accept Paypal. We accept credit cards on invoices up to $2,500.00.

Good Luck.

Peter

[edjs]

It's just so easy to click & bid on the lots. And if you're worrying about paying for the lot and/or lots, just say to yourself, "Sometimes you gotta say, WTF"

"If you can't say it, you can't do it."

[ls7plus]

Have my bid in and am leading for now also! Good luck, Leon!

Larry

[wonkaticket]

Good luck Leon.

Peter know you haven't had a lot of time to correct since it was brought to your companies attention back in May. But as pointed out by myself and the owner of the other example. This isn't the only recorded or known example of this card as your description states. Once again FYI......

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/net54shared/large/image_7.jpg

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/extremely-rare-1910-washington-times-clyde-milan-sgc-30-good-2-the-only-recorded-example-/a/7116-79283.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

[Jaybird]

I pointed something out to Heritage in this auction as well and they had me send scans but never corrected the description or reached out to me again. Money trumps all.

[Leon]

What was it Jason?

I thank John for that info above too.

I pointed something out to Heritage in this auction as well and they had me send scans but never corrected the description or reached out to me again. Money trumps all.

[j_cook]

Just got a bunch of e-mails. Thought I was popular for a second. I was greeted by some outbid notices.

[Jaybird]

The "unique" back of lot 79402. I have one just like it.

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/jasonleemiller/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-13%20at%203.57.33%20PM_zps0uroqiwx.png

On July 16 - they responded but nothing was done to change the description and no further correspondence.

"Dear Mr. Miller,

Thank you for the image. I have provided this information to our consignment director as well as our cataloger of this item.

Kind regards,

Maribel Zapien | Client/Bidder Services
HERITAGE AUCTIONS
877-HERITAGE (437-4824) | Fax: 214-409-1425
3500 Maple Avenue 17th Floor
Dallas, TX 75219
www.HA.com


Dallas | New York | Beverly Hills | San Francisco | Houston | Paris | Geneva"

[Leon]

Thanks Jason. I personally didn't keep up with each of the 3-4 different backs of those particular cards. Mike P. is the one I go to for those questions. I appreciate the good scan too. If someone wins this, and based their decision on that info and now doesn't want it, I won't force the sale. It's that easy. thanks again....

ps...I should add, I have to run everything by Heritage but we have always seen eye to eye in these areas.

The "unique" back of lot 79402. I have one just like it.

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/jasonleemiller/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-13%20at%203.57.33%20PM_zps0uroqiwx.png

On July 16 - they responded but nothing was done to change the description and no further correspondence.

"Dear Mr. Miller,

Thank you for the image. I have provided this information to our consignment director as well as our cataloger of this item.

Kind regards,

Maribel Zapien | Client/Bidder Services
HERITAGE AUCTIONS
877-HERITAGE (437-4824) | Fax: 214-409-1425
3500 Maple Avenue 17th Floor
Dallas, TX 75219
www.HA.com


Dallas | New York | Beverly Hills | San Francisco | Houston | Paris | Geneva"

[Jaybird]

Yeah, my point is that Heritage had the opportunity back when this card was $1000 cheaper to correct the description and they didn't. The idea that you will negate the sale after the fact, whatever. I go out of my way to send the scans and am communicated with that they are forwarding to the catalogue and director of the auction and nothing is done.

So, I guess I just sell my "unique" back in a couple of years with a similar description. If I do it with Heritage they won't ask any questions and will ignore the person who ends up buying your card.

Time is a flat circle.

[wonkaticket]

Leon, you're welcome.

As an FYI I notified Derek on May 14th. McKee also told Peter and the team quite sometime ago. Their response to him was along the lines of because his wasn't graded they couldn't count his card. Even more odd this card along with Dan's near set and can be seen in an article written by Dan that was featured in an issue of Old Cardboard.

Dan since then had the card graded....seems that still wasn't enough. Great card either way. Just hate to see somebody buy what they think is the only one when there is clearly another well known example.

Cheers,

John

[calvindog]

Man, that T213-3 Red Cobb is going like gangbusters!

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-cards/singles-pre-1930-/1919-t213-3-coupon-type-3-ty-cobb-red-portrait-sgc-30-good-2/a/7116-79414.s?ic2=mybidspage-lotlinks-12202013

[BeanTown]

Yes indeed as a few more Cobbs will be seeing some action later! So, much for the type 3 Red Cobb staying down. Bids placed and coffee is brewing for tonight!

[Sean]

Man, that T213-3 Red Cobb is going like gangbusters!

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-cards/singles-pre-1930-/1919-t213-3-coupon-type-3-ty-cobb-red-portrait-sgc-30-good-2/a/7116-79414.s?ic2=mybidspage-lotlinks-12202013

Wow, it sure is. I assume that you aren't bidding on it Jeff. :D

Neither am I, though I have some other cards that are just about out of range for me.

[e107collector]

Leon,

Best of luck with the sale of your collection!!

Out of curiosity, did it feel strange when you had to let all of your cards go?? I know you had some of them quite a long time.

I'm sure one day I'll be selling mine.

Tony

[Leon]

I have been in a daze for a month...ask me in another month. :) Actually, since I am still avidly collecting it hasn't been bad. I will never assemble this one again but there will be another, God willing.

Leon,

Best of luck with the sale of your collection!!

Out of curiosity, did it feel strange when you had to let all of your cards go?? I know you had some of them quite a long time.

I'm sure one day I'll be selling mine.

Tony

[shammus]

Maybe Brian will get to it later on. He is techy, me not so much.

I think we're ready to go....tried it just now and it's up and running. I'll bump the thread I started about the Chatroom as well. If anyone wants to chat cards awhile, feel free to stop by!

[Koufax32fan]

Well, I won 2 small lots - not the 2 that I was hoping to win but I am very happy! One more that I am watching - not sure if I will pull the trigger on another bid or 2. Maybe I need another glass of wine!

[tbob]

I only won one lot (finished the E98 master set with the orange Walsh) but I was bidding on many, so Leon I at least helped your daughter's fund a little 😊
Congratulations on what appears to be a very successful auction and congrats also to Pete C. who did yeoman's work.

[lancemountain]

I was happy to win the lot I did! Only needed one card from the lot but pleased with the outcome. Was outbid on the only only two lots I had bid on (well one is still going)

[Texxxx]

I only won one lot also. I have been trying to get it out of his hands for several years and now I have. Good luck to your daughter in her future.

[nolemmings]

Well, I was the underbidder on a couple of lots, so I got to push some money in Leon's direction, but I'm out.

[shammus]

Was looking forward to this auction and was fortunate enough to win 10 lots -

t205 Scrap McGraw
e100 Scrap Tennant
HRK B&W
t204 group including the blank front
e97 and e107 memorabilia lot
09 Obak doubleprinted back
d311 group including the overprint
w572 group including the all red variation
w516 ghost Matty
e90-1, e90-2 and e90-3 miscut lot

200916

200917

200918

200919

200920

[shammus]

rest of the scans...

200921

200922

200923

200924

200925

[Bliggity]

Picked this up at 1:10am. Very excited. Goodnight!

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah316/dmblau/T209%20Leon_zpsibjtzu69.jpg

[bcornell]

That was a short, but bloody, skirmish. I came away with the D381 Ferguson Burns and the 2 T217's. They were 'bargains', sorta. Glad to have them, in any case. Got pummeled on 25 other lots.

Let's do it again, Leon.

[yanksfan09]

Congrats on the Ferguson Burns Bill. Glad you snagged one! Unfortunately my $750 bid for the Wagner D381 didn't hold up:( .... I was prepared to go significantly more than that but it escalated pretty quickly and I stayed on the sidelines.

[canjond]

Picked up the Mino/Kotton and the Contentnea packs. I gave the GQ a ride until the bitter end, but ended up bailing out at $3750 (without the juice).

[edjs]

Picked up the Mino/Kotton and the Contentnea packs. I gave the GQ a ride until the bitter end, but ended up bailing out at $3750 (without the juice).

Jon, couldn't have found a better home for those. Congrat's!

[Tom S.]

Tracked about 10 lots, but I was only able to add two cards from Leon's type set to my White Sox type set: the W600 Callahan and the Home Run Candy Appling. :)

Really wanted the M101-6 Schalk, but I couldn't pull the trigger on placing another bid... :(

[sgbernard]

I had a bid on that T209 Thompson when it was still just into four figures, and was obviously blown out of the water--wow.

To be fair, the listing says that the back is "unique to this card alone" which could be interpreted to mean that the back is only found on (all) T209 Thompsons, something which is true. While that is an ambiguous way of putting it, it's not strictly speaking a false advertisement. I do agree, though, the title made it misleadingly seem like this was a variant T209 Thompson back, something that does exist (as Mike Peich can attest). I wonder if the winner had thought that, or whether he just really, really needed that card for his T209 set.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

I don't smoke nor do I condone smoking but might start if I could smoke Pirate cigarettes!

[bobbvc]

Really Bummed! I know I should have read the rules but WHY WAS THIS THE ONLY AUCTION IN RECENT MEMORY THAT ENDED BEFORE 5 am Eastern Time? (Actually just got back later than expected from out of town). Anyway, if whoever won the Leach E125 or several of the Wagner items needs any T206 or possibly other trade items, please message me. Missed out on some things that were bargains. Great auction.

[shernan30]

Just woke up to check my bids and I didn't win anything. Wasn't expecting it to be over so soon. Figured 2:30 would be a good time to check in.

Was hoping to bring home the Obak slogans set, the E100 Tennant lot, and the Orbit Foxx card. My bids were within $20 of the final on all lots. I think being so close is the worst part.

It's going to be a very sad Friday.


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[x2drich2000]

I came away with 3 lots...the E92/101 Young with E78 back, the small group of E cards including an e92 Nadja Oakes, and the E92 Crofts Candy (red) Bemis. If the winner of lot 79197 (group of 20 E cards) is a board member, I would be interested in 1, maybe 2 cards from the group.

DJ

http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F7%2F7%2F4%2F12774973%5D%2Csi zedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5Dhttp://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F7%2F7%2F4%2F12774972%5D%2Csi zedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D
http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F8%2F6%2F0%2F12860643%5D%2Csi zedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D
http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F8%2F1%2F0%2F12810022%5D%2Csi zedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D

[peterose4hof]

I didn't end up winning any of the 3 lots I bid on.

If someone here won the W517 lot and is breaking it up, I am interested in one of the 3-card strips.

[4815162342]

I came away with 3 lots...the E92/101 Young with E78 back, the small group of E cards including an e92 Nadja Oakes, and the E92 Crofts Candy (red) Bemis. If the winner of lot 79197 (group of 20 E cards) is a board member, I would be interested in 1, maybe 2 cards from the group.

DJ

http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F7%2F7%2F4%2F12774973%5D%2Csi zedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5Dhttp://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F7%2F7%2F4%2F12774972%5D%2Csi zedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D
http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F8%2F6%2F0%2F12860643%5D%2Csi zedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D
http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F8%2F1%2F0%2F12810022%5D%2Csi zedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D


Nice pickups, DJ! I was the underbidder on the E105 Lajoie.

[ccre]

Wow .... some CRAZY bidding on most of these lots! I was shocked by how high the T209 blue plates went for. I did pick up a couple of consolation prizes!

[Bliggity]

DJ, nice pickup on the Prizefighter, that's a great card! It was good to hang out with you + others in chat last night.

Jon, congrats on the Contentnea pack, I was an early bidder on that but couldn't come close.

[Jason Carota]

Didn't even notice it until a few hours before the auction ended, but I was lucky enough to win the 1949 Schumacher Service Station Vernon Stephens.

[darwinbulldog]

Picked up the Henry Johnson Confectionery pair and the pair of W514 types. Missed out on a few things I really wanted because of the lot-by-lot ending, but realistically I probably shouldn't have spent any more than I did anyway.

[scooter729]

I was very interested in the T207 Red Cross Weaver card, but due to a couple of other larger purchases in the past few weeks, I had to watch from the sidelines on that one. Too bad - I thought the price was very fair on that tough card.

[ccre]

Is it just my imagination or did the Matty T206 proof go down in price? Was a bid retracted?

[the-illini]

I won the Willilam Paterson Miller Huggins card for a very good price IMO.

Frustrating thing - I went to check out and saw shipping is $19.30 for one standard-sized card. That thing better be in my lap tomorrow...

[Qcards]

That was a pretty amazing collection with some strong prices realized.
I did a cursory calculation from the Heritage site and stopped at half a million dollars, does anyone know what the final tally was for Leon's collection?

[calvindog]

Frustrating thing - I went to check out and saw shipping is $19.30 for one standard-sized card. That thing better be in my lap tomorrow...

$49.05 for two graded cards.

[the-illini]

$49.05 for two graded cards.

That is just ridiculous. I would love to hear Heritage explain that.

[ccre]

Same for me .... ouch!!

$49.05 for two graded cards.

[trobba]

$23.45 for one graded card...

just another 6% to my winning bid

[x2drich2000]

Frustrating thing - I went to check out and saw shipping is $19.30 for one standard-sized card. That thing better be in my lap tomorrow...

I wouldn't count on it. I won a single graded in their sunday auction almost 2 weeks ago. Received the invoice the next day, Monday (8/3), with no shipping charges added. Paid by paypal that same day. I ended up calling either tuesday or Wednesday to find out when the shipping would be added. Finally ended up getting the shipping charges added on Thursday (8/6) and still have not received any notification that the card has shipped. And $19 to ship a $250 card is outragious. I guess a single graded card really does fall under their "Trading Card Set or Notebook, Large" shipping category. Sorry for the vent, but this is one of the things that just really bugs me about some auction houses and is one of the reasons I prefer to purchase from LOTG, Sterling, etc.

My total for 9 card (3 lots) was $46.90.

DJ

[the-illini]

From the invoice:

"Please allow 7-14 days for shipping."

I guess absurd shipping fees do not equate to rapid service.

[tonyo]

I wouldn't count on it. I won a single graded in their sunday auction almost 2 weeks ago. Received the invoice the next day, Monday (8/3), with no shipping charges added. Paid by paypal that same day. I ended up calling either tuesday or Wednesday to find out when the shipping would be added. Finally ended up getting the shipping charges added on Thursday (8/6) and still have not received any notification that the card has shipped. And $19 to ship a $250 card is outragious. I guess a single graded card really does fall under their "Trading Card Set or Notebook, Large" shipping category. Sorry for the vent, but this is one of the things that just really bugs me about some auction houses and is one of the reasons I prefer to purchase from LOTG, Sterling, etc.

My total for 9 card (3 lots) was $46.90.

DJ

Sorta makes me glad I didn't win the one minor lot I bid on after 10:00, my last bid put me over the limit I had set for myself several hours early anyway. Tack another $19 onto that and I really would've busted it.


By the way, DJ mentioned LOTG as if their shipping is reasonable. I won 4 raw cards in their last auction and shipping was $8.40..... I thought that was too high, plus they sent the notice that shipping will be delayed since they are at White Plains trying to get more consignments.

I do agree Sterling has been reasonable.

[Leon]

I am not aware of any bids being retracted in the auction except one insignificant mistake weeks ago when a person hit the wrong key (on a few hundred dollar item).

Is it just my imagination or did the Matty T206 proof go down in price? Was a bid retracted?

[VintageBall]

$8 shipping for properly packed cards in a box seems more than fine be me, especially if the cards are insured by LOTG's carrier.

[Bicem]

Any feedback/thoughts on how the sale went Leon?

[Joshwesley]

Is there a link where I can see what the final prices were on Leo's items?

I hope he cleaned up big time,
It is an out of this world collection!

[glchen]

I was shocked by how high the Sociedade Ruth/Cobb card went even though that's the only known copy that I know of. That was one of the cards I was really going to try to win but it blew past my budget.

On the other hand I thought some Ruth cards went for very reasonable prices where I should have bid more such as the Drake Ruth. However I was going for a lot of other cards in the auction and in extended was the high bidder on a few and was over my budget by a crazy amount so let those cards go. Of course I ended up getting outgunned on most of those cards so I wish I could have looped around and bid on those.

Struck out on all of the Heading Home Ruth's and I really wanted to just pick up one more for my collection. Like above some that were cheap going into extended ended up at much higher prices than those that closed early at "high" prices. I wish I could have looped back again.

I think the t209 Thompson went fair or even low. I think that is a really cool card whose popularity extends beyond set collectors. I wanted it but was something like the second or third underbidder. Story of my auction but wished I could've placed another bid or two there.

I did win some stuff highlighted by the Pathe Freres Ruth which is a strong upgrade to my current one. I thought that went for a very fair price given what the other lots were going for. Very happy with that card.

[prestigecollectibles]

Is there a link where I can see what the final prices were on Leo's items?

I hope he cleaned up big time,
It is an out of this world collection!

Total for this sale: $950,115
http://sports.ha.com/c/print-prices-realized.zx?saleNo=7116&ic5=CatalogHome-ActionArea-PrintablePricesRealized-071515

[Joshwesley]

950k... Wow.
Congrats!


The question is:

Would you rather have that entire collection or a Wagner, a plank and some cash left over?

[darwinbulldog]

Total for this sale: $950,115
http://sports.ha.com/c/print-prices-realized.zx?saleNo=7116&ic5=CatalogHome-ActionArea-PrintablePricesRealized-071515

$1.4 million with shipping.

[Leon]

Any feedback/thoughts on how the sale went Leon?

I thought it went very well overall. The things I HAD to have for my collection as I needed them to fill a type card hole, didn't generally do well. The things I got because I absolutely loved the way they looked, did extremely well. Note to self, buy things I really like.

[Louieman]

Amazing final tally on the whole collection, glad it worked out so well for you Leon. I was able to pick up this one:

[MVSNYC]

Nice pick-ups.

I was happy to win this card...

[MVSNYC]

Can't seem to upload multiple images in one post from an iphone. here's back...

[calvindog]

Total for this sale: $950,115
http://sports.ha.com/c/print-prices-realized.zx?saleNo=7116&ic5=CatalogHome-ActionArea-PrintablePricesRealized-071515

Uh, just one card short of a million dollar auction. 0_o

[tbob]

Leon's accountant is going to be busy figuring out the capital gains tax on this auction, yikes! 😱

[tbob]

From the invoice:

"Please allow 7-14 days for shipping."

I guess absurd shipping fees do not equate to rapid service.

I bid in a lot of Heritage auctions and always figure bid price plus commission fees plus outrageous shipping charges in to my decision on how much to bid. The poster who said outrageous shipping costs do not equate to quick shipping is right on the money.

[autograf]

The 950Kish was with the 19.5% vig added in.............I think. A nice tally. Hopefully the cap gains don't kill you too bad as there are gains on some, losses on others. A sufficient enough amount to ensure your daughter get's through school, has a nice wedding at some point, and spoil a few grandkids down the road.................and some left over for collection #2..........

[DeanH3]

Congrats Leon! Good luck on collection #2.

[e107collector]

I wanted that Schapira Bros. Ty Cobb Big Show Candy card, but got crushed!!

Great looking card!!

Tony

[DeanH3]

Nice pick-ups.

I was happy to win this card...

Great card. I was very tempted to jump in on that one. Congrats!

[jbl79]

Happy to win the one card I had my eye on in this auction...

[Griffins]

I won 2 cards. Shipping was billed at $44.85.
Seriously?

Edited to add- received an unsolicited, updated invoice with shipping cut in half. Much more reasonable.

[oldjudge]

Looks like the 950,115 includes the buyer's premium? Having said that, I would think an astute guy like Leon negotiated to receive a cut of the BP.

[ZachS]

Leon, you know I was going after that other Cafe Du Monde but I ended up having to back out. You're welcome for helping drive that one up a bit more. :D

I ended up with the W573 uncut strip. I'm going to make my own holder and slab it "Leon Luckey Collection" (to help drive up the price should I ever sell it).

[ullmandds]

Congrats Leon...that was a fun auction with cooler material all in one place than has been seen in a long time...atleast by me.

I got beaten on the 30 or so things I bid on...none of which I had to have.

I thought prices were quite strong for the most part.

So are we going Ivy league?

[the-illini]

I won 2 cards. Shipping was billed at $44.85.
Seriously?

Maybe Pete Calderon, who was able to get on the board to advertise the auction in the past couple of days, can log in and explain these shipping fees.

[Jaybird]

Maybe Pete Calderon, who was able to get on the board to advertise the auction in the past couple of days, can log in and explain these shipping fees.

3 cards, $40.65. They also have a great workaround for California law. They are not allowed to charge tax on Shipping charges here so they state it as "service and handling" to avoid the law. Just to squeeze a couple more dollars out. Nice!

[timn1]

Also it looks like Heritage is charging sales tax even for bidders in states where they don't have offices, which is unusual in my experience for an auction house. Maybe an explanation of that would be possible...

[ZachS]

I did not get charged sales tax (LA). Shipping for my one item was $17 but I figured it would be a little more because of it being an uncut strip of cards (fairly long).

There is actually a breakdown of all shipping charges on their site - http://sports.ha.com/c/shipping.zx

My item was:

Up to $99 is $5.15 (base service)

In the item description it tells you what type of additional requirements there are to ship:

Trading Card Set or Notebook, Large is $12.10 first item + $4.85 per additional item

So mine was $5.15 (base) + $12.10 (additional) = $17.25 (exactly what I was charged for shipping)

[Leon]

Just curious what the value of the 3 cards is? And thanks for the bids and wins too!!

3 cards, $40.65. They also have a great workaround for California law. They are not allowed to charge tax on Shipping charges here so they state it as "service and handling" to avoid the law. Just to squeeze a couple more dollars out. Nice!

[the-illini]

Just curious what the value of the 3 cards is?

I bid $190 for one card and won. with BP $227

Shipping was $19.30 and sales tax was 22.68 (I live in the same state as Tim - no Heritage office in Illinois) for an additional $41.98 in fees. Considering I have to wait 7-14 days to get my card, that is ridiculous.

[x2drich2000]

I did not get charged sales tax (LA). Shipping for my one item was $17 but I figured it would be a little more because of it being an uncut strip of cards (fairly long).

There is actually a breakdown of all shipping charges on their site - http://sports.ha.com/c/shipping.zx

My item was:

Up to $99 is $5.15 (base service)

In the item description it tells you what type of additional requirements there are to ship:

Trading Card Set or Notebook, Large is $12.10 first item + $4.85 per additional item

So mine was $5.15 (base) + $12.10 (additional) = $17.25 (exactly what I was charged for shipping)


That's fine, and I actually really like that they are willing to put the estimated shipping in writing, which I think all auction houses should, but a single graded card falls under their category "Trading Card Set or Notebook, Large" at $12.10 extra? If that's the case, what items would fall under "Trading Card Set, Medium $4.85 first item + $1.30 per additional item" or "Trading Card Set, Small $1.30 first item + $0.70 per additional item" or better yet "Sportscard $1.30 first item + $0.45 per additional item"?

[darwinbulldog]

Winning bids (2 lots): $510.00
Invoice total: $676.01

That works out to 33% for the buyer's premium + sales tax + shipping + handling. Mind you, I fully accept the buyer's premium and the sales tax, but they're still charging me about $35 more to ship something that I'd put in a small flat rate priority box for $5.95. The penny at the end is just adding insult to injury.

[unamuzd1]

I won one card (the Tango Eggs Jennings, which is probably now the prettiest card in my collection despite its technical grade!), and had misread the shipping information. I hadn't realized that steps 2 and 3 got added together to get to a $19.30 shipping charge for one card.

I'm still unclear why a single graded card counts as "Trading card set or notebook, large" rather than "Trading card set, medium" which would be $7.50 cheaper. The paranoid part of me thinks it's because Heritage added a free book to my order, which would make the entire package much larger than the one graded card and potentially more notebook-sized. It also makes the book not all that "free."

Congrats on the successful auction, Leon! I suspect that some of the grousing about things like shipping etc. is because your amazing collection attracted a lot of us who had bid in very few auctions outside of eBay in the past (I won my first non-eBay item earlier this month...), and just got a few little surprises on the back end. =)

Morrie

[Peter_Spaeth]

I bid $190 for one card and won. with BP $227

Shipping was $19.30 and sales tax was 22.68 (I live in the same state as Tim - no Heritage office in Illinois) for an additional $41.98 in fees. Considering I have to wait 7-14 days to get my card, that is ridiculous.

I found this in a quick search.

Effective June 1st, Heritage will be required by state law to charge all applicable sales taxes on any items delivered to Illinois addresses other than sales to dealers with valid Illinois sales tax numbers who are purchasing for resale and who furnish us with a properly completed Illinois resale certificate (exempt purchasers may furnish us with properly completed Illinois exemption certificates). NO sales tax is due for US Coins & Currency and World Coins & Currency. Please see paragraph #25 in our Terms and Conditions for more complete information.

Sincerely,

Heritage Client Services
3500 Maple Ave. 17th Floor
Dallas, TX 75219-3941
Bid@HA.com
1-800-872-6467

[the-illini]

I found this in a quick search.

Effective June 1st, Heritage will be required by state law to charge all applicable sales taxes on any items delivered to Illinois addresses other than sales to dealers with valid Illinois sales tax numbers who are purchasing for resale and who furnish us with a properly completed Illinois resale certificate (exempt purchasers may furnish us with properly completed Illinois exemption certificates). NO sales tax is due for US Coins & Currency and World Coins & Currency. Please see paragraph #25 in our Terms and Conditions for more complete information.

Sincerely,

Heritage Client Services
3500 Maple Ave. 17th Floor
Dallas, TX 75219-3941
Bid@HA.com
1-800-872-6467

Thanks for posting that Peter - explains the tax for me anyhow.

[Jeffrompa]

One of the reasons we moved to Delaware . T A X E S .

[shammus]

Regarding the shipping...it seems that this issue has come up more than once before. Seems that last time, we wrote Pete Calderon and he resolved the shipping stuff for us.

In case you're wondering, my shipping total is $83.65....heh...so I'm sure something can be worked out. Don't they usually botch the invoices at first before fixing them all within a day or two?

[timn1]

well, that's a drag. Paragraph 25 gives no more info. I wonder what exactly what is the requirement that requires Illinois sales tax to be collected.

[Rob D.]

Looks like the buyer(s) of the T206 Mathewson proof ($35,850) and T206 Mullaney-Cy Young multi-strike ($19,120) will make a nice profit flipping them. From a post this past April:

leon's matty proof could go 100 k + easy imho....or his multi strike....

R0b D3w0lf

[Michael Peich]

That's easy, Tim--the state is corrupt, just like Pennsylvania!

Cheers, Mike

[pencil1974]

From what I was told they opened an office in Illinois. I had asked during the May auction when I got an email that said they would be charging sales tax after I think its the June 1 date.

[Leon]

*** There was a systematic problem with the invoicing. IF you guys look at the items for sale. Pick any single card item (or I think any item), It will say, below the description...

"Trading Card Set or Notebook, Large"

Their system charged all items based on that charge. So they are redoing all of the invoices for corrected shipping UNLESS your item was actually a Trading Card set or Notebook Large. If you had an item that fit that description then you got shipping charges added correctly per the system. If you were billed correctly and are still not happy, please email Chris Ivy about it.- civy@ha.com

If you paid your invoice they will credit you for any overpayment on shipping. They are working on it right this minute. Sorry for the issues too...


As for charging tax on shipping that is being looked into. I can virtually guarantee that Heritage is going by the book on taxes and the way they are collecting and paid. Now, they could always make a human mistake but otherwise I would be quite surprised if there is a sales tax issue.

[unamuzd1]

*** There was a systematic problem with the invoicing. IF you guys look at the items for sale. Pick any single card item (or I think any item), It will say, below the description...

"Trading Card Set or Notebook, Large"

Their system charged all items based on that charge. So they are redoing all of the invoices for corrected shipping UNLESS your item was actually a Trading Card set or Notebook Large. If you had an item that fit that description then you got shipping charges added correctly per the system. If you were billed correctly and are still not happy, please email Chris Ivy about it.- civy@ha.com

If you paid your invoice they will credit you for any overpayment on shipping. They are working on it right this minute. Sorry for the issues too...
Thank you, Leon. The auction was a lot of fun to watch and participate in, and I suspect they will be a lot more likely to get repeat business from their first-timers based on a willingness to deal with the shipping issue so quickly.

[TATSR]

To be fair, whenever I'm out of packing supplies, I win an auction at Heritage. A single card will come wrapped in about $50 worth of bubble wrap and at least a couple of envelopes.

[Michael Peich]

"To be fair, whenever I'm out of packing supplies, I win an auction at Heritage. A single card will come wrapped in about $50 worth of bubble wrap and at least a couple of envelopes."

+1

Cheers, Mike

[Gradedcardman]

Johnny is a great guy and loves his scrap...HOWEVER his estimates I have to take with a grain or 2 of salt :D


Looks like the buyer(s) of the T206 Mathewson proof ($35,850) and T206 Mullaney-Cy Young multi-strike ($19,120) will make a nice profit flipping them. From a post this past April:



R0b D3w0lf

[obcbobd]

Leon

Did you sell your quarter? ;)

Congratulations!

Bob

[ls7plus]

Congratulations, Leon, on the total gross and net. I won the only lot I bid on--the 1929 Leader Novelty Mel Ott, and am very glad to have it!

The auction was an amazing thing to have done--best wishes on your future collecting endeavors,

Larry

[Econteachert205]

I missed my mark on the McGraw t205 scrap, but it was still a fun auction to watch.

[Sophiedog]

Leon

Did you sell your quarter? ;)

Congratulations!

Bob

Hahaha....Maybe he did; I saw he was using a half dollar the other day

[oldjudge]

The guys at Heritage typically do a great job. I just got an email stating that some of the shipping charges were incorrect, and they are being corrected now.

[mrvster]

I bet the winner of both pieces was jumping for joy! :eek::D

they got both pieces AT A DISCOUNT to say the least....

I estimated with many friends, in this venue 40k-60 k, with the buyer environment....on matty....

I estimated the rosetta getting 30 k plus in this venue....all depends if a few whales joined the frivolity, and I know for a fact a HUGE ONE chose not to participate;)

these 2 pieces went CHEAP even in this venue....:eek:

there were a few certain individuals who did not bid.....if they joined the pool, prices would have been at least 30 % higher or more in this venue....maybe not 100k on the multi strike , but 30- 50 k would have not been out of the question......Matty prob went to Keith;)....and if it did, he got a GREAT piece....and is one of the very elite to truly understand a "type 1 " design change proof.....

hate to say ROB D- in REA these 2 pieces would have done much better.....so, you know it.....100 k with another bidder would not have been out of the question on Matty at least, with the multi at least 30 k and sky the limit .......

THANK GOD! LEON reinstated you......:D.........gives me someone to pick on;)






so, winner bidder got a STEAL ON BOTH!!!!:eek:


two major notes here.....:D

1)winning bidder needs to resubmit the multi and have "brown om stike" added....this will def add value to the card....

2) no one "really" understands yet what a design change proof really is:confused: and the significance of them......t206 "proto types"..... more to come in the future...



Rob, you should EDUCATE.....not EVALUATE so much;)



if you ever see these again at auction, they will be at least double of what they just sold for.....and you can quote me on that..........give it a year or 2 to marinate........these cards are exponentially appreciating like Wagz:D

[Koufax32fan]

Here are pictures of the lots that I won (but missed out on others, including the Zeenuts of Mensor and Bohne).

I did receive an email from HA that the shipping was incorrectly calculated - as calculated was $24.15, but should have been $6.45; I am sure I will get the refund. The lots I won each went for less than $100 without premium, so as a percentage the difference is big even though the dollars are not.

I am very pleased to add a small part of Leon's collection to mine. I bid on the supplements lot mostly for the Greenberg and the Cobb, so if there is something else in there that someone else really wanted let me know and I am sure we can work out a trade.

[oldjudge]

"I bet the winner of both pieces was jumping for joy!

they got both pieces AT A DISCOUNT to say the least....

I estimated with many friends, in this venue 40k-60 k, with the buyer environment....on matty....

I estimated the rosetta getting 30 k plus in this venue....all depends if a few whales joined the frivolity, and I know for a fact a HUGE ONE chose not to participate

these 2 pieces went CHEAP even in this venue....

there were a few certain individuals who did not bid.....if they joined the pool, prices would have been at least 30 % higher or more in this venue....maybe not 100k on the multi strike , but 30- 50 k would have not been out of the question......Matty prob went to Keith....and if it did, he got a GREAT piece....and is one of the very elite to truly understand a "type 1 " design change proof.....

hate to say ROB D- in REA these 2 pieces would have done much better.....so, you know it.....100 k with another bidder would not have been out of the question on Matty at least, with the multi at least 30 k and sky the limit .......

THANK GOD! LEON reinstated you...............gives me someone to pick on






so, winner bidder got a STEAL ON BOTH!!!!


two major notes here.....

1)winning bidder needs to resubmit the multi and have "brown om stike" added....this will def add value to the card....

2) no one "really" understands yet what a design change proof really is and the significance of them......t206 "proto types"..... more to come in the future...



Rob, you should EDUCATE.....not EVALUATE so much



if you ever see these again at auction, they will be at least double of what they just sold for.....and you can quote me on that..........give it a year or 2 to marinate........these cards are exponentially appreciating like Wagz"



LOL--it's always easy to say things go too cheap when you are not spending your own money. Heritage accesses everyone in the hobby; the items sold for what they were worth. If I had to guess, and it is no more than a guess, I would say that the Matty proof could appreciate in the future. The printers scrap piece, I believe, is just a curiosity piece that happens to be hot now. In other areas, like '48 Leaf cards, similar printers scrap pieces, even dramatic ones, do not carry significant value. I would guess that T206 scrap pieces depreciate in value in the future. This is not meant to start a debate, just one person's view.

[Rob D.]

Blah blah blah

:eek::p:(:D:o:):mad::rolleyes:;):confused::cool:


Or, more likely, you often are clueless -- or at the very least overly optimistic -- when assigning realistic value to these types of cards (specifically, scrap and the like). Maybe because you'd like to see them be worth more than they are? Because you own cards of this type?

It just always seems like you have to explain how often these types of cards sell at "bargain" prices. They'll always sell for more -- you predict -- down the road.

I know, I know ... you and a handful of collectors are the only ones "smart" enough to realize the "true" value. The collectors who actually can afford to pay the actual selling prices just aren't as smart, apparently.

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf

[calvindog]

Heritage accesses everyone in the hobby; the items sold for what they were worth. If I had to guess, and it is no more than a guess, I would say that the Matty proof could appreciate in the future. The printers scrap piece, I believe, is just a curiosity piece that happens to be hot now.

I agree with this. I thought the Matty went a little cheap and the printers scrap piece went a bit high.

[calvindog]

$49.05 for two graded cards.

Just got my revised invoice; now $33.80 for the two graded cards.

[Michael Peich]

As long as we're on the subject of overstrikes, here are two of the three lots I won last evening. These two will fit in perfectly with my Southern minor league collection, especially T209-1.

Jeff-Just got my revised bill and it was for the same amount you were charged. I already sent my payment so I guess I'll be getting a big refund. Ha!

Cheers, Mike

[swarmee]

If anyone grabbed the nonsports proof sheet lot, contact me if you're willing to sell the T51 Colleges.

[SMPEP]

If anyone here grabbed the 1923 W572 lot, please pm me if you're willing to sell the card with the Metro Star on top.

Thanks,
Patrick

[Jaybird]

Just got my revised invoice; now $33.80 for the two graded cards.

Me too. $29.30 for 3 cards. And still circumventing California law by stating it as "Service and Handling" rather than "Shipping and Handling".

[oldjudge]

Jason--Are you saying that Heritage is collecting taxes that they do not pay, or that their system is paying more tax than it has to? I doubt the former is happening. If it is the latter, perhaps you could call their Dallas headquarters and discuss it with their financial people.

[T205Guy]

Leon,

I know that it had to be hard letting a collection like this go. So I just wanted to thank you as I have been coveting this card for a very loooong time! I also want to wish you the best of luck as you get started on your next collection...:D

Ed

[Jaybird]

Jason--Are you saying that Heritage is collecting taxes that they do not pay, or that their system is paying more tax than it has to? I doubt the former is happening. If it is the latter, perhaps you could call their Dallas headquarters and discuss it with their financial people.

I have no idea what they are doing other than charging me tax on shipping. In California you aren't supposed to do that. But since they are calling it Service and not Shipping, they are charging the tax. Whatever they are doing with the money, I have no idea. I'm not saying it is illegal either. I'm just saying it is annoying and an example like my previous one where they use language to say whatever they want to say to get whatever they want. "Unique Back" "Service and Handling", etc.

"Mr. Miller,

Thank you for your email. The shipping charges are titled as service and handling and as this includes materials, handling and shipping charges it is taxable. You can go online and process the payment or I can process it for you manually at your request.
Please feel free to contact me with any further questions you might have.

Gary Fournerat
Auction Client/Bidder Services
HERITAGE AUCTIONS
800-872-6467 | Fax: 214-409-1425
3500 Maple Ave. 17th Floor, Dallas, TX 75219
www.HA.com "

[mrvster]

you are truly clueless! apparently, missed the boat on something good, or are TOO STUPID to even realize that you are your own worst, miserable enemy:)

good day douche:D

[Rob D.]

you are truly clueless! apparently, missed the boat on something good, or are TOO STUPID to even realize that you are your own worst, miserable enemy:)

good day douche:D

Predictable. Most people, faced with trying to rebut what I posted and realizing they can't (because it's spot on), would resort to name calling. I totally understand your position. :eek:

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf

[oldjudge]

It sounds like the material and handling portion is taxible, and the postage portion is not. Since they do not break out the two, it sounds like they are just taking the most conservative posture vis a vis taxes and paying (and charging) taxes on all shipping charges. My sense is that Heritage does not want to go counter to tax guidelines and bends over backwards to make sure they are in compliance. At the end of the day, what are we talking about a few dollars extra in tax?

[mrvster]

I am so glad Leon reinstated you:D......your stupid sarcasm is tiresome....but keeps me entertained.....you are clueless with T206 and the set......it's on like donkey kong, time to make you look more stupid than you are .....

I love ignorance....I'm going to have fun with you....this smileys for you :)

[mrvster]

btw....the only person holding me back from going off on you is Brian W......he is the salt of the earth , and if you even were associated with him a shred, you could learn a thing or two about decency.....

Brian W.....I AM SORRY!:o

but I can't stanz no more!:D;)


the vster has had ENOUGH of hearing from ROB D'S stupid piehole!:mad:

[Rob D.]

I am so glad Leon reinstated you:D......your stupid sarcasm is tiresome....but keeps me entertained.....you are clueless with T206 and the set......it's on like donkey kong, time to make you look more stupid than you are .....

I love ignorance....I'm going to have fun with you....this smileys for you :)

Take pity on me, please. I feel overmatched. And feel free to recruit some help, assuming you can find some "friends" to return your calls or texts. (Oh, and if I can be of any help when you try to trade your scrap collection for a T206 Wagner, please let me know.)

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf

[Jaybird]

It sounds like the material and handling portion is taxible, and the postage portion is not. Since they do not break out the two, it sounds like they are just taking the most conservative posture vis a vis taxes and paying (and charging) taxes on all shipping charges. My sense is that Heritage does not want to go counter to tax guidelines and bends over backwards to make sure they are in compliance. At the end of the day, what are we talking about a few dollars extra in tax?

My problem is that it's always this way with Heritage. Bidding on their own items, hidden reserves, Description inaccuracies (lies), shipping and handling. It's a pattern. I bid with them so I feel like if I can give them my money, I can also point out what I don't like. This forum is the best and most public place to voice that because I don't get anywhere when I take it to them directly.

I certainly don't give a shit about a couple of bucks. So, if I'm willing to type 3 entries about it, it's not about the couple of bucks.

[mrvster]

genius RoB De douche..... please explain the design changes of type 1 and 2 scrap/ proofs......the proofers desig's deviations of each card......and the select few that fall into the group....and the correlation of each????????????

:confused:

clueless :D

[mrvster]

scramble to find the answers.....

oh, btw....what sc 350 yellow brown 460 fact number are available????? how many subjects????? what's their correlation to sheet size???? series???

you are a genius with scrap:D


clueless:p

[mrvster]

:)all through scrap.....and you are truly Clueless Rob De Douche..

maybe we can chat and I will school you????;) maybe in AC:D

[mrvster]

I would ask a moron for help ......smileys for you:)

[Rob D.]

genius RoB De douche..... please explain the design changes of type 1 and 2 scrap/ proofs......the proofers desig's deviations of each card......and the select few that fall into the group....and the correlation of each????????????

:confused:

clueless :D

You should be able to find the answers to all of your T206 questions here. I reference this site quite a bit and am not ashamed to admit it:

http://t206resource.com/

(I can simplify the confusing verbiage for you.)

And if we're going to quiz each other, explain why it's important to properly punctuate and capitalize.

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf

[mrvster]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I KNEW IT!!

idiot.....hide behind Tim and Jim......you are truly hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

how do I punciate this?????


STOOOOOOPPPIDD????? did I spell this right????


HA!!

still can't answer the question IDIOT!!!!!!!!!

answers not there ROB:D

[mrvster]

how many brown om sheets existed ???? examples known.........


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[mrvster]

simple scrap questions....

cricket .....cricket??

[Peter_Spaeth]

simple scrap questions....

cricket .....cricket??

Yeah seriously post a hard one will you Johnny?:D

[mrvster]

scrap examples tie t206 to the oakes ??????

TO T206???

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

clueless

[mrvster]

tolstoi men of history scrap correlation??? concurrent printing??

:confused:


uhhhhhhhhhhhh

uhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Rob D.]

simple scrap questions....

cricket .....cricket??

Somewhere along the line, you've convinced yourself that I represent myself as an expert on T206 scrap. I haven't. I'm not even all that interested in it. In fact, I've never claimed to be an expert on anything. Just never felt the need.

However, it's doesn't take a genius to figure out that a baseball card that sells for less than $40,000 in Heritage Auctions should not have sold for $100,000. It seems everyone except you can grasp that.

That, and only that, was the basis of my post. But again, I don't expect you to grasp that or acknowledge it.

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf

[mrvster]

do you want to get started Rob????:D

[caramelcard]

tolstoi men of history scrap correlation??? concurrent printing??

:confused:


uhhhhhhhhhhhh

uhhhhhhhhhhhh



What are tolstoi men of history vster?

Rob

[x2drich2000]

I came home from dinner tonight and found my shipping has also been reduced for Leon's auction from $46.90 to $27.30. But as others have mentioned, this seems like an ongoing issue with the postage. My invoice from 2 weeks ago still shows $19.25 for a single graded card and the invoice was less than $275 before shipping. It makes me wonder if the only reason it was adjusted is because enough people here are complaining.

DJ

[mrvster]

explain double exposure ghosts.....vs cylindrical reverse ghosts on backs....

scrap vs. factory cuts....

WHATS AN OVERPRINT vs. UNDERPRINT ghost??????reverse negative???? brown impression layer......


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


:confused::D

[Rob D.]

explain double exposure ghosts.....vs cylindrical reverse ghosts on backs....

scrap vs. factory cuts....

WHATS AN OVERPRINT vs. UNDERPRINT ghost??????reverse negative???? brown impression layer......


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


:confused::D

Somewhere along the line, you've convinced yourself that I represent myself as an expert on T206 scrap. I haven't. I'm not even all that interested in it. In fact, I've never claimed to be an expert on anything. Just never felt the need.

However, it's doesn't take a genius to figure out that a baseball card that sells for less than $40,000 in Heritage Auctions should not have sold for $100,000. It seems everyone except you can grasp that.

That, and only that, was the basis of my post. But again, I don't expect you to grasp that or acknowledge it.

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf

[mrvster]

There are a certain "type" of printer's scrap related to the printing of "MEN OF HISTORY " series..... I credit Erick Summers to breaking this scrap code of print correlation...

I will look for scans and the link....:)

[nolemmings]

Mrvster, please put your name on your posts, per forum rules. Typically, I ignore most t206 threads, including yours about scrap, etc., as they don't interest me. But since you continue to blather on with the tone and substance of a sixth grader in a thread that otherwise is of interest to me, I think you should own up to your masterpiece posts with your name. Then please either hit the bottle or put it down, whatever stops your diarrhea of the keyboard.

[mrvster]

your an idiot....

I am going to educate people I care about....

caramel card.....great question....

[mrvster]

JOHN VANDERBECK....

btw........I had to let it out......don't care about you either:)

[Rob D.]

your an idiot....

I am going to educate people I care about....

caramel card.....great question....

Your

You're.

There, I'm educating a person I care about.

Baby steps. That's a lot for one day.

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf (trying to educate)

[nolemmings]

Yeah, repeated use of smilies--great touch that never grows old.

[mrvster]

maybe Erick can post the link where he "cracked the code".....

btw....Todd....your next;)

[Rob D.]

your next

We just covered this.

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf (trying to educate)

[mrvster]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

you are pathetic!!!

soooooooooooo LAME!!!

that just made me CRACK up!

you put down scrap and their value ....... AND YOUR CLUELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!

you have no idea what they are:D

dude....currect me spilling Rob D...

Hi lame Todd also....your(HA) did I use this write Rob??? hehehehe six grader that will school you son;)


JOHN VANDERBECK

[nolemmings]

For God's sake man, get a GED.

[mrvster]

HAHAHAHA!!!

typical response ....from another idiot...

this smiles for you , idiot :D

oh.....

her's me name ......... UMMMMM...duhhhhh....ummmmm

JOHN VANDERBECK:D

[uniship]

Classic exchange.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Vster is not having a good night here but he is a good man. I think he was just mocked one too many times by a guy he was instrumental in getting reinstated.

[mrvster]

my hijacking of this thread....

I WANT TO EDUCATE>>>>>>>>>>>>

NOT PUNCUATE!!!!!!!!

did I spell this correct....


OOOOOOOOOHHH WAIT...


hmmmmmmmmmmmm....

let me hear Rob and Todd.... EDjamacate me


cuz I'm Clueless...


:)

[nolemmings]

and who some (many) think should not have been banned in the first instance.

[mrvster]

My Man....

BINGO!!

the voice o' reason has arrived:)

[nolemmings]

cuz I'm Clueless...

Getting harder to argue with that.

[Peter_Spaeth]

and who some (many) think should not have been banned in the first instance.

Be that as it may, Johnny's taking the high road was important to Leon.

[mrvster]

you jumped on the bandwagon my friend.....

I COULD care less if you read my threads......your (HAHAHAHA) on my ROB D list...

that list STINKS!!

JOHN VANDERBECK

[clydepepper]

Be that as it may, Johnny's taking the high road was important to Leon.

+1 - Integrity is always welcome - anything else makes my eyes hurt.
.
.

[Rob D.]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

you are pathetic!!!

soooooooooooo LAME!!!

that just made me CRACK up!

you put down scrap and their value ....... AND YOUR CLUELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!

you have no idea what they are:D

dude....currect me spilling Rob D...

Hi lame Todd also....your(HA) did I use this write Rob??? hehehehe six grader that will school you son;)


JOHN VANDERBECK

This is my last attempt, and to be honest, I'm not hopeful. I will underline what I think are the most important points in hope that it helps you out.

1. I have never claimed to be an expert on T206 scrap. I do not have much interest in it.

2. I have not "put down" scrap. I honestly think it's nice that you like it so much.

3. What I have been critical of is your (note: not you're) incessant hyping of the value of T206 scrap with little or no basis to make such claims. The Mathewson proof and multi-strike sold for less than half of what you touted (several times, If I'm not mistaken), and your explanation is because it was sold by Heritage and not REA? Or that not enough whales were involved in the bidding?

If the Mathewson were as coveted and as valuable as you say, every Moby Dick in the hobby would have been bidding. And if it were worth $100,000, it would have sold for $100,000. I'm not the only one in this thread to have that opinion.

4. I understand that you want your collection of T206 scrap to be more valuable than it is. I'm sorry that it's not.

R0B Dew0lf

[mrvster]

is one of THE GREATEST EVER on this board bar none! bar none!

he has schooled me! as many here...... I have learned through education and passion....a true love for the cards.......persecute me if you will Todd and Rob....just drives me more and more to under dog on top!(hate to use the fidy cent) reference??? did I spell that right....


hmmmmmm....I'm going to git' a ged ......then try to read about T206:D

[nolemmings]

I assume you meant to say you could not care less, but your reading comprehension and grasp of decent communication skills is so lacking that it hardly seems worth the trouble trying to correct. I would settle for your taking just a moment or three to stop acting like a buffoon, but it seems that acting has little to do with it.

[mrvster]

your ( sp???) or is it you're ....or you are hmmmmmm....wait......trying to spell right.....:confused::D

variables you are ignorant to.....hence your "clueless ness" is this a word???:D

these scrap are inherently tiny tools that have been underappreciated in the set for over a century until they "codes" are broken through expert analysis by guys like Chris and Erick.....we are unlocking mysteries of the set...

all you want to do is focus on the value.....value is what 2 collectors will pay.....

hmmmmmmmmmmm....

one gentleman would've sent either card through the roof with the other whale underneath......directly affects value:D


DUH!

you are clueless.....don't care about you at all, or what you think...

hmmmmmmmm

cuz, uh

YOUR AN IDIOT!

one day when I have the Wagner....you will be the first I show:)

[mrvster]

your hmmmmm or is it you are???? an annoying GNAT who is also clueless and has absolutely no CLUE what we are even talking about.....

DUMMY

say something relevant instead of trying to be the six grade teacher....

HA

JOHN VANDERBECK

[mrvster]

I can not even fathom how I am lowering myself to a "ROB D" level :confused:

I must be bored

[mrvster]

BTW.....point....

YOU claim I HYPER inflate the value of scrap T206 through no basis....

if you don't know what they really are , or what they represent, the populations, and their connections....HOW can you make ANY assumptions or EDJAMACATED LOL guesses?????

huh???

YOU CAN"T!

you try to use markers for cards that are true unique examples.....you can't even wrap your tiny mind around it...

HOW CAN YOU even try to understand value and market of scrap WHEN YOU don't EVEN understand the cards??????????



WHO IS CLUELESS???

Todd...

you ARE JUST an IDIOT and have nothing to add to a discussion of scrap...

go somewhere else and try to correct a TERM paper YOu WANNA BE TEACHER LOSER


JOHN VANDERBECK

[mrvster]

did I communicate this right????????


YOU ARE AN IDIOT:D

[oldjudge]

Get this guy back on his meds

[calvindog]

Rob got banned because of Johnny?

[mrvster]

listening to intelligent input on print process of an iconic set......oj in all due respect....

btw......oj....there is plenty of the vster if you want some also;)

[nolemmings]

Hey Johnny? You think you have the right to commandeer a thread about Leon's entire collection and turn it into another blowhard, indecipherable stream of semi-consciousness about your precious scraps? Fuck you.

I routinely avoid your drivel out of respect for those whose driveways don't go all the way down to the street, but when you continue to pollute a thread like this with your endless gibberish in broken English--often just responding to yourself--then I have no problem calling you out as the tool that you are.

[arcadekrazy]

Well, I was happy to win 5 lots, including 2 that I've coveted for a long while, and put some money in Leon's pockets

[mrvster]

Rob didn't get banned because of me....I have held back many times......I'm not holding back anymore!

Rob got banned because of his insults of other members....time I do the dishing out! who ever wants to jump on his side, I don't care at all.....I'm ready to defend myself and what I believe in


JOHN VANDERBECK

[Peter_Spaeth]

Actually, this started when Rob made a snarky post towards Johnny about the prices realized for cards that Johnny had predicted would go much higher, and then called Johnny clueless when he responded. I think that's what set Johnny off, combined with some history.

Probably time for a step back though.

[mrvster]

Ha!!

BEAUTIFUL!

you just did it to yourself.....:)

wannabe teacher loser....


who is the tool now????

I told you before I don't want to hijack this thread.....

I think I will start a new thread about DOUCHES of the board such as you lame ass self wana be teacher:)



Peter S is more collector than either of you two idiots could ever be.....he is right on the money!

[Bestdj777]

Well, I was happy to win 5 items, including 2 that I've covered for a long while, and put some money in Leon's pockets

Post some pictures!!!

Unfortunately, I did not get anything from this auction. I'd be a buyer of you decide to sell the quarter Leon. I'd love to have something from your collection to go alongside my other "greats of the hobby" themed mini collection.

[nolemmings]

I think I will start a new thread about DOUCHES of the board such as you lame ass self wana be teacher

Knock yourself out. No, seriously, knock yourself out.

[Kenny Cole]

Kumbaya, Lord, Kumbaya ....

[mrvster]

Please come to AC:D....id like to show you my collection:D

[mrvster]

national should be very interesting this year:).......

Todd and Rob D I ' d love to see there:D

[autograf]

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qHylYskXWEU/VaPUJ3mvGOI/AAAAAAAAtb8/0HWNM7mu0g4/s2048-no/a.gif

[Luke]

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qHylYskXWEU/VaPUJ3mvGOI/AAAAAAAAtb8/0HWNM7mu0g4/s2048-no/a.gif

Lol!

[peterose4hof]

Ugh! I was excited to see that this thread had grown so large, figuring lots of board members were discussing their winnings/losses. Instead it turns out to be one member tooting his own horn / antagonizing people who have only vague interest in engaging him.

Johnny, a suggestion. Start a new thread about the ending prices of the two cards you have such a hard on for and let this thread be.

[mrvster]

you must be related to captain obvious:confused:

I wasted enough energy on idiots......obviously captain you joined the team;)

[Blunder19]

a quick note on johnnys values.. he told me years ago to start buying yellow brown scraps at $400-$600 and now they sell at $1700-$2000. he told me to buy ghosts at $2200 and now they sell at $6K-$11K...

does he overvalue these cards sometimes.. yes... but he has been right way more times then he has been wrong. .. and yes i do believe that REA has more action then HA... some people didnt even know HA ended lot by lot.. people could have signed on at 2am EST thinking they would get a bid in on the matty or the brown OM only to see they ended hours earlier..

IMO i think both went at good prices for the buyers.. didnt a brown old mill just sell in the spring REA auction for $24K? that would make this brown old mill with a ghost image of cy young worth more in my opinion.

[mrvster]

thank you my friend! Jamie is by far a very educated collector in this niche.... if anyone knows me, I only like to see collectors ENJOY! that's the true value! to me:)

it's who I am......

sick of being "talked down to" by condescending COLLECTORS WHO ARE JUST NOT EDUCATED IN WHAT THEY criticize :mad:

This is not a hi jack....Leon prob wants to say to Rob what I am expressing, but I can not speak on anyones behalf but mine.......

[mrvster]

through education and sharing freely of info between collectors , we have accomplished a lot so far....

these guys I spent time with educating them back in the day , now educate me! I love the reciprocation.....advancement of the print process/rarity knowledge.....

I call on them for advice now;)

[glchen]

a quick note on johnnys values.. he told me years ago to start buying yellow brown scraps at $400-$600 and now they sell at $1700-$2000. he told me to buy ghosts at $2200 and now they sell at $6K-$11K...

does he overvalue these cards sometimes.. yes... but he has been right way more times then he has been wrong. .. and yes i do believe that REA has more action then HA... some people didnt even know HA ended lot by lot.. people could have signed on at 2am EST thinking they would get a bid in on the matty or the brown OM only to see they ended hours earlier..

IMO i think both went at good prices for the buyers.. didnt a brown old mill just sell in the spring REA auction for $24K? that would make this brown old mill with a ghost image of cy young worth more in my opinion.

+1, I agree with Jamie. Johnny is more of an expert on t206 scrap than most on this board and I've enjoyed reading and learning from his threads. So he missed on his estimates on these two cards. I don't think the market for scrap is a fad and it's not going away. What I've learned over the years is that t206 is a completely different beast than other sets so you can't compare scrap in this set with other sets. A lot of folks collect different backs and want to add a scrap to complete their "type" collection for t206, and there are a LOT of t206 collectors. To try to cut Johnny down like this is completely childish and flat out wrong.

[mrvster]

please forgive me for my expression here..:o...I had to let it out!:o

and everyone else who had to read this mess....but I stand behind what I said....and I don't want to post anymore here in this thread....I have wasted enough time on negative energy.........


UGH!!!

Gary, Bryan and all the rest keep me going in my quest...can not thank guys like you enough

[Jobu]

I don't have much interest in getting in the middle of this, but I wanted to point out that Johnny did not fire the first shot, that was Rob:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpost.php?p=1441996&postcount=112

when, out of the blue, he quoted something Johnny said in a post in April to bust his balls. Judging by his response I would say that Johnny done had enough!




Ugh! I was excited to see that this thread had grown so large, figuring lots of board members were discussing their winnings/losses. Instead it turns out to be one member tooting his own horn / antagonizing people who have only vague interest in engaging him.

Johnny, a suggestion. Start a new thread about the ending prices of the two cards you have such a hard on for and let this thread be.

[Sean]

Nice pick-ups.

I was happy to win this card...

Mike, you got that one? Nice going. :)

[Jobu]

Did anyone here win the T215-1 McGraw? I hope that one stayed in the Net54 family.

[Sean]

.

[atx840]

Jamie nailed it, couldn't have said it better.

The Matty proof more than doubled since 2008 and believe the Young ghost doubled as well. We've seen a T206 error go from 26k to106k in under 4 years. It's possible the next time these come up they will have increased significantly.

Maybe just let him state his predictions, right or wrong and leave it at that.

[glynparson]

I should have gone for it. I put my card resources in a few other directions and now regret it, but overall you did very well. Congratulations.

[Gradedcardman]

I was able to snag 2 blank backs, T205 McConnell and the T207 Street. I was the underbidder on the T206 Mullaney as well. Oh well, sometimes chicken sometimes chicken residue !!

[wonkaticket]

Let's put it this way. Johnny has an enormous amount of passion. He has always participated on this board sharing scans and information. He regularly posts and not just to bump or plug his own BST threads. He's the first guy to compliment other collectors on cards or their collections. He takes the time with others to try and further the knowledge of the T206 set and shares what he knows. He actually posts cards from his collection for others to enjoy.

That's a hell of a lot more than the bulk of the members here ever do. So he over estimated a couple of cards. Who cares he's not in the auction business. Heritage had a few higher estimates on a handful of Leon's cards and they fell below estimates...anyone gonna start slapping them around?

With all the scumbags in this hobby, stolen items being offered for sale, blatantly false lot descriptions etc. I would think we as collectors would have better things to police than a passionate collector who tossed a dart at a price and missed.

In reagards to Johnny's emoticons and personality as Warren Zevon said...he's just an excitable boy. :)

Cheers,

John

[milkit1]

Anyone here win the sporting life lot and want to part with the Johnson and Coombs please let me know )

[1952boyntoncollector]

Man federal income taxes are going to be huge on this sale...

[btcarfagno]

I have my $$ in 10,000 different directions right now or I would have been in on both the Matty and the Young multi strike. Likely would have lost on both but my feeling going in was $30,000 on the Matty and $20,000 on the Young multi strike and sit on them for 3-5 years to double the money.

I am far from the educated T206 expert, so those are just gut feelings. But they are my own. Perhaps this is what they are worth now. No idea.

There are some people who simply do not bid in Heritage auctions for personal reasons. If such people are the ones that Johnny is speaking of, I can see why he believes the cards could have gone for more somewhere else.

Tom C

[Brian Weisner]

Let's put it this way. Johnny has an enormous amount of passion. He has always participated on this board sharing scans and information. He regularly posts and not just to bump or plug his own BST threads. He's the first guy to compliment other collectors on cards or their collections. He takes the time with others to try and further the knowledge of the T206 set and shares what he knows. He actually posts cards from his collection for others to enjoy.

That's a hell of a lot more than the bulk of the members here ever do. So he over estimated a couple of cards. Who cares he's not in the auction business. Heritage had a few higher estimates on a handful of Leon's cards and they fell below estimates...anyone gonna start slapping them around?

With all the scumbags in this hobby, stolen items being offered for sale, blatantly false lot descriptions etc. I would think we as collectors would have better things to police than a passionate collector who tossed a dart at a price and missed.

In reagards to Johnny's emoticons and personality as Warren Zevon said...he's just an excitable boy. :)

Cheers,

John

+1
Thanks John, anyone who has ever talked with Johnny knows how passionate he is about collecting T206's, especially scrap. It's not an act, that's just Johnny.
It's not about money for him, he truly loves the cards, sometimes maybe too much...;)
Be well Brian

[pencil1974]

Not take aways from the big t206 scrap fight but on a side note I picked these two premiums up...

[arcadekrazy]

Not take aways from the big t206 scrap fight but on a side note I picked these two premiums up...

Nice! I had my eye on those too. Held my powder for other things in the auction. Sharp looking premiums. I really dig the Gehrig.

[Gradedcardman]

Johnny is passionate and emotional about his cards and everyone else's cards. Enjoy the enthusiasm as it is far from the norm and rarely seen here. I speak with him on many T206 questions and he has helped me gain an understanding of scrap. I do ask his opinion on pricing but I know its simply just an opinion. We compared notes on the 2 cards in question and each had our opinion. No harm no foul just an opinion.

Thanks Johnny for the help in my learning about scrap and its value.


Let's put it this way. Johnny has an enormous amount of passion. He has always participated on this board sharing scans and information. He regularly posts and not just to bump or plug his own BST threads. He's the first guy to compliment other collectors on cards or their collections. He takes the time with others to try and further the knowledge of the T206 set and shares what he knows. He actually posts cards from his collection for others to enjoy.

That's a hell of a lot more than the bulk of the members here ever do. So he over estimated a couple of cards. Who cares he's not in the auction business. Heritage had a few higher estimates on a handful of Leon's cards and they fell below estimates...anyone gonna start slapping them around?

With all the scumbags in this hobby, stolen items being offered for sale, blatantly false lot descriptions etc. I would think we as collectors would have better things to police than a passionate collector who tossed a dart at a price and missed.

In reagards to Johnny's emoticons and personality as Warren Zevon said...he's just an excitable boy. :)

Cheers,

John

[pencil1974]

Its funny I just wanted the Ruth.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Let's put it this way. Johnny has an enormous amount of passion. He has always participated on this board sharing scans and information. He regularly posts and not just to bump or plug his own BST threads. He's the first guy to compliment other collectors on cards or their collections. He takes the time with others to try and further the knowledge of the T206 set and shares what he knows. He actually posts cards from his collection for others to enjoy.

That's a hell of a lot more than the bulk of the members here ever do. So he over estimated a couple of cards. Who cares he's not in the auction business. Heritage had a few higher estimates on a handful of Leon's cards and they fell below estimates...anyone gonna start slapping them around?

With all the scumbags in this hobby, stolen items being offered for sale, blatantly false lot descriptions etc. I would think we as collectors would have better things to police than a passionate collector who tossed a dart at a price and missed.

In reagards to Johnny's emoticons and personality as Warren Zevon said...he's just an excitable boy. :)

Cheers,

John

Johnny has sunk a lot of time into coaching me on the finer points of all things T206. He has pointed out resources I can go to so that I can educate myself. In addition, he has shared scans of many items from his own collection. I can't even begin to tell you what an incredible resource he is, and how much he has gone out of his way to just help another collector. If I had had someone like him when I first started collecting postwar cards years ago, I wouldn't have made all the mistakes that I made. Is he passionate? Yes! And in a world of collecting that has simply become all about profit and bottom line, I can appreciate that passion. The fact that an advanced collector like Johnny takes the time to fool with a T206 newbie like me speaks volumes, and I won't forget it.

[Exhibitman]

Agree w/John re Johnny. If I had a buck for every wrong SWAG I've made I'd not be working.

Brad, I don't know what those premiums are but they are brilliant.

[pencil1974]

Thanks Adam!

[Eric72]

List me as another supporter of Johnny V. I wish more people in this hobby had his unbridled enthusiasm for (and willingness to share knowledge about) the cardboard treasures we collect.

Best regards,

Eric

[mrvster]

wanted to thank the board members who responded on behalf of me.......this is why I collect what I do and LOVE IT!

I was swearing to myself not to post in this thread anymore, but seeing these kind posts I had to respond.....

the members who kindly posted above deserve the right to know, that I would quit collecting if it were not for them.....:)......this is the truth....

I need not let the negativity bring me down......my love for the cardboard, and more importantly, the friends and fine board members I have had the absolute pleasure of meeting and knowing, deserve so much more !!!!!!!:)

I speak from the heart as everyone knows.......

I would like to take the high road and apologize for some negative comments I made towards the board members here last night.....no matter how ignorant we all behaved, it was no reason for me to feed into it.....and display that

I would like to apologize for de- railing the op thread and had no intentions of that....

I can not apologize for my passion...........

life is short......people matter, not card board.......

I extend my offer still with the best intentions, Rob and Todd, come to the national in AC 2016....I really would like you to see why I am so passionate about my collection....education is the key to closing the gap....

tolerance of each other and respect should always come first....

last should be the taunting of each other ......

LEON 'S auction .......

GREAT PICK UPS EVERYONE:D

congrats to all the winners.......

and, thank you again to all the AWESOME members who took the time to post such kind things about me.....just reinforced what I enjoy to do!

[joeadcock]

Johnny well said.
Your statement goes with this:"Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself"
Philippians 2:3
...
In this collecting world, as I've gotten older, tire of seeing the back and forth attacks.

[yanksfan09]

I for one, accept the apology and hope everyone can move on and keep this thread going positively.... It's just cards! We're supposed to be passionate about them, but it is just cards...

Since I heard Leon was auctioning off collection I'd been saving and waiting in hopes of landing the D381 Wags. However a 17k upgrade wasn't really in the cards for me so to speak...Congrats to whoever got it.

I had to "settle" on adding these beauties and really couldn't be happier....

The bidding got pretty intense on the "Headin Home" but I just couldn't let the opportunity to own one of these crazy rare early Ruth's slip by. I thought this one might be the best image of them too, although the horizontal one (that Graig Kreindler just painted btw) was incredible too. All the "headin home's" are, obviously.... The Oxford has been very high up on my want list for years too. Really ecstatic to add these into the heart of my Ruth collection!

My pickups that I'm eagerly awaiting...

[joeadcock]

Nice pickups Erik. Always loved the oxford

[HRBAKER]

Erick those are beauties! Well done.

[yanksfan09]

Thanks guys. Yea, the Oxford is a great looking card.

[jefferyepayne]

Anxiously waiting to see who picked up the Jim Thorpe card. Anyone on here get it?

jeff

[DixieBaseball]

Happy to have this mellow yellow Thebo to my OB Series 3 set!

[David R]

I too appreciate Johnny's passion and honesty. And it's nice to see him come on here today and admit that he should not have been so negative the last few days. As someone who got into collecting vintage because of scrap - my Dad gave me a pile of t206s ten years ago that included all the Lash's Bitters cards (neither of us knew what they were) - I share Johnny's passion for t206 oddities. I think his heart is really in the right place.

Now if he would just sell or trade me his blank back t206 hall of famer so I can complete my t206 HOF back set I would really like him :)

And as for Leon's collection, I was sad to see him sell it but also happy to see all the wonderful cards he accumulated. Leon, I hope you're happy with the results of the auction and I hope your cards bring a lot of joy to all those who were fortunate enough to win them.

[FirstYearCards]

Although not a needed piece, couldn't be happier with this. Also, wanted to help just a little with the root cause of this auction. A selfless act to be very proud of, nice job Leon!

[TaxMechanick]

My only acquisition was this. It is right in my wheel house...an item of extreme rarity, and top flight HOFer!

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1910-dockman-andamp-son-all-star-base-ball-package-complete-box-with-mathewson-and-coombs-/a/7116-79199.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

Glenn Mechanick

[4815162342]

My only acquisition was this. It is right in my wheel house...an item of extreme rarity, and top flight HOFer!



http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1910-dockman-andamp-son-all-star-base-ball-package-complete-box-with-mathewson-and-coombs-/a/7116-79199.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515



Glenn Mechanick


Congrats on the pickup. That and the Orange Borders box were a couple of my favorite items in the auction.

[gnaz01]

My only acquisition was this. It is right in my wheel house...an item of extreme rarity, and top flight HOFer!

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1910-dockman-andamp-son-all-star-base-ball-package-complete-box-with-mathewson-and-coombs-/a/7116-79199.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

Glenn Mechanick

Awesome pickup Glenn, I think I was the under bidder (or close)

[TaxMechanick]

Thanks Daryl & Greg! It goes nicely with my similar issue cut cards of Mack and Chance. Even the separate cards are quite rare, but not currently in demand. This does not bother me though; it just means the price was less than what they would have been were they in demand.

Greg, likely, you'll get me next time!

Glenn

[3-2-count]

Came away with this one.

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/threetwocount/large/lfIRNYCJHInew.jpg

[benchod]

Beautiful Tony
Doesn't get much better looking than a T3 Cobb

[3-2-count]

Thanks Craig...... I agree :)

[Jacker_ Cracks]

Very nice pickups Glenn and Tony!

[canjond]

Glenn-

Congrats on the pickup. I was bidding for a while, and then dropped out to go after some other pieces. I thought that was a great price!

- Jon