This pete real??

[tuckr1]

Is this rose rookie real??

[hcv123]

My guess based on scan is it looks good. My advice - put it under a 10-20 power loupe and you'll know for sure. Or get a super high res scan and blow it up.

[tuckr1]

Thanks Howard , think it grades a 1 due to stain ??

[a761506]

Looks authentic to me from that scan.

It's nicer than a 1 though, that's probably a 3(ST) or a 2 unqualified.

[hcv123]

My experience is PSA gets really "funny" and inconsistent on the lower end of the grading spectrum. To me it technically grades nicer than a 1 (in agreement with Josh), but that stain is just a HUGE visual detractor. One way to find out for sure!

[tuckr1]

Ok is this rose real?? If so why are the faces blurry ??

Thanks Tucker

[swarmee]

This one could also be real; the problem with it is the "registration". Cards went through a multi-stage process where each color is applied in a different stage. Kind of like how monitors operate on RGB (red+green+blue) and printers work on CMYK (cyan-blue+magenta+yellow+key-black). When the sheet was fed through multiple times, one or more of those times were mis-aligned, so the colors don't properly line up. That's what's causing the blurriness.

[tuckr1]

Will the overprint, blurriness affect the grade ?? What you think this rose scores ?? Psa 3? 4?

[swarmee]

EX 5: Excellent
On PSA EX-5 cards, very minor rounding of the corners is becoming evident. Surface wear or printing defects are more visible. There may be minor chipping on edges. Loss of original gloss will be more apparent. Focus of picture may be slightly out-of-register. Several light scratches may be visible upon close inspection, but do not detract from the appeal of the card. Card may show some off-whiteness of borders. Centering must be 85/15 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the back.
VG-EX 4: Very Good-Excellent
A PSA VG-EX 4 card's corners may be slightly rounded. Surface wear is noticeable but modest. The card may have light scuffing or light scratches. Some original gloss will be retained. Borders may be slightly off-white. A light crease may be visible. Centering must be 85/15 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the back.

They also have an OF qualifier for out-of-focus. So I think it may be a 5, but it could be a 5(OF) based on the poor registration. Kind of a gray area as to whether this would be "slightly out-of-register" for a PSA 5; it's pretty distracting compared to normal Rose rookies.

http://www.psacard.com/Services/PSAGradingStandards

[tuckr1]

Thanks guys, now the real question which one the blurry one that grades better or the stain on front no blurriness??

[HRBAKER]

They're both low grade, I'd rather have the one I can make out the faces on.

[swarmee]

I would expect the blurry one to grade better. The other is a 4(ST) in my opinion, at the most.

[tschock]

The blurry one might grade better, but I'd take the stained one over the blurry one. I can see Pete, and everyone else for that matter, on the stained one. I collect cards for the players, not the borders.