View Full Version : T206 Matty Broadleaf 350 confirmed!!!! Crap....
jimivintage
04-03-2015, 06:49 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171735332443?_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&autorefresh=true
OK...so who won it????
Always assumed to exist, but now confirmed.... I tried but lost!
Jimi
Thromdog
04-03-2015, 06:54 PM
I was nervous watching that one.....terrible picture.
I didn't like the colors on that card at all. But every other card in the auctions looked good to me.
I was watching too, exciting card. Not to be a stick in the mud here, but don't we usually wait a few days before posting something like this to prevent interference? (Note: I did not win)
sreader3
04-03-2015, 07:25 PM
Boom. All of the six superprints are theoretically possible with both BL 350 and BL 460. Probably just a matter of time til we see them all. Of course we could have the situation where one or two were printed but simply did not survive.
Scot
mrvster
04-03-2015, 07:31 PM
on my bid:mad:
MVSNYC
04-03-2015, 07:41 PM
Rather weird wear on the card...semi-square top corners, and very rounded bottom corners? Just seems odd.
Did anyone email the seller to confirm that the Broadleaf back matched up with Matty? I mean, it looks pretty obvious, but I'm just curious if anyone pressed the issue.
This auctioned whoooooshed over my head. I am impressed with the passion you guys have for this set. Good stuff.
swarmee
04-03-2015, 08:55 PM
The description says that the Mathewson is the Broad Leaf, but it could be a rebacked card. Just looks like a strange card. I hope whoever did win it will let us know the finding.
nolemmings
04-03-2015, 09:02 PM
Rather weird wear on the card...semi-square top corners, and very rounded bottom corners? Just seems odd.
+1. VERY noticeable difference in corner wear. Hard to explain.
Harford20
04-03-2015, 09:05 PM
A "no bid" here as my pitiful bid was bested by 5 other people.
The card looks short to me. If it started life as a tall boy, or even as a normal card that was slightly off-center with more space at the top (the name is close to the bottom of the card so this might be the case) then a single trim on the top could explain the difference and they might not have trimmed the bottom because any trim there would have trimmed the name off. It would be great if it were real - my concern was a frankencard with a front and back stuck together.
+1. VERY noticeable difference in corner wear. Hard to explain.
I'm guessing fake front real back. Hopefully I'm wrong and the buyer got a nice deal. I hope we'll find out.
T206Collector
04-04-2015, 04:52 AM
I also think it is a rebacked card.
Brian Weisner
04-04-2015, 06:29 AM
I have seen several dozen rebacked cards over the last ten years.... Many in TPG holders. Most have the same corner wear, a few creases and some notching on the side, as well as a few other "tells" that I won't mention here.
Be well Brian
PS This card doesn't even look like one of the "better" rebacks from the scan.
ullmandds
04-04-2015, 08:02 AM
looks altered to me...I was scrutinizing the rounded corners esp on the bottom...compare the curvature and weird looking wear on the left front to the right back....the corners just don't seem to line up perfectly...as they should. for sure trimmed to fit as well.
Tao_Moko
04-04-2015, 08:15 AM
I think it's suspect that it's hidden in with a group of other beaters. Does not look like the makings of a group that was found together. I hope it's the real deal but too many red flags for me.
wolf441
04-04-2015, 10:20 AM
If you look at his feedback, the first couple of items have "reproductions" included as part of the items sold.
Blunder19
04-04-2015, 10:28 AM
FYI. SGC shows 2 being graded.. why was the card on the unconfirmed list.. matty dark cap with BL350.. i think the card was confirmed before this auction.
I think the two SGC cards are 1911 BL, which is their way of denoting BL 460 of which they have graded two. A BL 350 would show up at SGC as 1910 BL, of which there are 0 for this (PSA also has 0). Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think this remains unconfirmed.
FYI. SGC shows 2 being graded.. why was the card on the unconfirmed list.. matty dark cap with BL350.. i think the card was confirmed before this auction.
caramelcard
04-04-2015, 11:34 AM
Reback. Several hofers have been rebacked with broadleaf.
Rob
buymycards
04-04-2015, 11:44 AM
It is interesting that he listed his T206's under "Cards" "Other", rather than "Cards" "Baseball" .
Pat R
04-04-2015, 11:55 AM
I think the two SGC cards are 1911 BL, which is their way of denoting BL 460 of which they have graded two. A BL 350 would show up at SGC as 1910 BL, of which there are 0 for this (PSA also has 0). Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think this remains unconfirmed.
You're correct Bryan if the pop report says 1911 it would be BL 460.
insccollectibles
04-04-2015, 12:29 PM
I'm guessing fake front real back. Hopefully I'm wrong and the buyer got a nice deal. I hope we'll find out.
+1
atx840
04-04-2015, 01:11 PM
I've seen one SGC A Matty BL460, its a beauty. I believe all 6 super prints were printed in both series but in such low numbers.
Interesting fact: There are 34 possible BL460s, 33 of those have been found as yellow brown scraps, no others are known. Chase dark cap is the last on to be found. Same sheet?? :)
mrvster
04-04-2015, 03:13 PM
:eek:
that would be INSANE! the sc 350-460 no overprints????:confused:
Brian Van Horn
04-04-2015, 05:52 PM
Rather weird wear on the card...semi-square top corners, and very rounded bottom corners? Just seems odd.
It was owned by a little old lady. She only took it out on weekends. :D
rebelsart
04-04-2015, 08:06 PM
Put me in the re-backed camp on this one. Horrible scans and card looks completely altered/re-backed.
Art M.
arc2q
04-04-2015, 08:39 PM
the seller could not have underplayed this more than he did. If it's not real than the seller deserves an Oscar for slipping a golden egg into an otherwise seemingly innocuous listing.
jimivintage
10-17-2015, 11:38 AM
Did anyone hear what happened with this lot? Is the Broadleaf 350 Matty real??
iwantitiwinit
10-17-2015, 01:02 PM
No way this way real, has to be rebacked. The seller has lots of experience selling cards (see previous sales). He would know what he had if it was a true BL and it would be advertised to a much higher level, fake in my opinion and no way worth laying out 2k plus for the lot.
pherbener
10-17-2015, 04:58 PM
I e-mailed the seller at the time of the auction and he said he would guarantee my bid if it ended up being fake. I ended up being outbid at the very end. Wondered if someone here won it and had it checked out.
Did anyone hear what happened with this lot? Is the Broadleaf 350 Matty real??
Did anyone hear what happened with this lot? Is the Broadleaf 350 Matty real??
Would be nice to hear about it...
I know the guy who bought this. He said it was ok if I shared: when he got it in hand it was clearly rebacked - the card was returned for a full refund. The search for Matty continues ...
I know the guy who bought this. He said it was ok if I shared: when he got it in hand it was clearly rebacked - the card was returned for a full refund. The search for Matty continues ...
Thanks for the update!!