View Full Version : Let's play "Grade this Mathewson"
Bliggity
03-28-2015, 06:13 PM
I'm crossing this over to PSA for a couple reasons, and am debating whether to submit it for review in the SGC holder or crack it out and submit it raw. So I'll put it to a vote here - what grade do you think this would receive from PSA? I'll do what makes sense based on the grades received. FYI, there are no hidden wrinkles/creases. THANKS!
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah316/dmblau/20150328_155918_zpsd1nsxgvv.jpghttp://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah316/dmblau/20150328_160041_zpswvgujycr.jpg
t206hound
03-28-2015, 06:14 PM
Paper loss on back; I'd say a 2
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steve_a
03-28-2015, 06:17 PM
My .02 is a 3
tiger8mush
03-28-2015, 06:17 PM
1.5 or a 2
x2drich2000
03-28-2015, 06:19 PM
I'd say 2 as well. Nice card for the grade though.
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ullmandds
03-28-2015, 06:23 PM
the way psa grades paper loss...let alone on the back of the card...I'd say psa 6 ex-mt.
pawpawdiv9
03-28-2015, 06:35 PM
guessing a 2-3 with a ST qualifier, if they notice the paper loss, then its a AUTH.
Econteachert205
03-28-2015, 06:40 PM
1.5
Stonepony
03-28-2015, 06:42 PM
1.5
vthobby
03-28-2015, 06:44 PM
2
Mikehealer
03-28-2015, 06:48 PM
the way psa grades paper loss...let alone on the back of the card...I'd say psa 6 ex-mt.
Very nice.
ullmandds
03-28-2015, 06:49 PM
Honestly I think it deserves a 2
vintagetoppsguy
03-28-2015, 06:51 PM
1.5 or a 2
This
slipk1068
03-28-2015, 06:54 PM
1.5
I scrolled down real fast so I didn't see any replies yet...
My guess is it's an SGC 30 now, and the best grade PSA will give it is PSA 2, likely a 1.
Sweet card, regardless of what any grading company might say on any given day.
Gobucsmagic74
03-28-2015, 07:44 PM
Guessing it's a 1.5 now (since SGC seems a bit tougher on paper loss) and could potentially become a PSA 2. Please share the current grade at some point if you would.
GoudeyGum
03-28-2015, 09:03 PM
1.5
conor912
03-28-2015, 09:45 PM
2.5
sycks22
03-28-2015, 09:50 PM
1.5
btcarfagno
03-28-2015, 10:32 PM
2.5
Tom C
Bridwell
03-28-2015, 11:28 PM
2 or 2.5
jerrys
03-29-2015, 04:00 AM
2
Bliggity
03-29-2015, 05:39 AM
Thanks very much to everyone who has responded so far. I'll let this run until tonight and then I'll post the SGC grade and the totals from this thread. I agree that PSA's inconsistency with paper loss is the toughest factor.
MVSNYC
03-29-2015, 06:09 AM
2
nebboy
03-29-2015, 06:33 AM
1.5
stlcardsfan
03-29-2015, 07:44 AM
2.5
Harford20
03-29-2015, 03:00 PM
1.5
Bigb13
03-29-2015, 04:23 PM
4 vgex
T206Collector
03-29-2015, 05:16 PM
Sgc 35
before "ST" this would be a 1.5. Now, who knows? 2.5 (ST)?
rats60
03-30-2015, 06:37 AM
Sgc 10
Bliggity
03-30-2015, 07:12 AM
Ok, thanks to all who answered. Here's the current flip:
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah316/dmblau/Mathewson_zpsedo3xcdj.png
And here are the total votes (for those who guessed multiples, I counted both):
Authentic: 1
1 PR: 2
1.5 FR: 10
2 G: 12
2.5 G+: 6
3 VG: 2
4 VG-EX: 1
Two folks also thought it might pick up a ST qualifier. Counting the one Auth vote as a "0" grade, the average grade is a 1.94, which is just a tad shy of the current grade. I've seen a lot of PSA 3s that look a lot worse, which is why I was considering cracking it, but I agree that the paper loss on the back makes it difficult. I think based on the votes here, the best thing to do is submit it in the SGC holder with a minimum grade of 2, NQ.
Thanks again!
Bliggity
08-04-2015, 06:28 PM
Bumping this for a long-overdue epilogue. I ended up rolling the dice and cracking it out before submitting it. Specified no qualifiers, but no minimum grade either. Just popped:
2 1 24501947 GOOD+ 2.5 1911 T205 Gold Border Christy Mathewson
So I lucked out and got the rare SGC-to-PSA bump. Time to buy a Powerball ticket!
iwantitiwinit
08-05-2015, 11:18 AM
PSA 1.5, paper loss, significant staining, and evidence of glue on the front.
Guess I was wrong.
EvilKing00
08-08-2015, 07:56 AM
2.5
nice card!
Joshchisox08
08-08-2015, 08:27 AM
2