Show some scraps other than T206

[mrvster]

yes.....you read it right! I haven't seen too many "new" T206 scraps.....so I figured id check out what y'all got..........

I love wavy , fat , sexy borders!;)

THE WEIRDER THE BETTER:D

p.s.

Leon and Pete have some of my fav non-T206 scrap

[MVSNYC]

JV- you feeling ok? you want to see cards other than T206?

Go take some Motrin and lay down.

;)

[philliesfan]

I have a rare error to show but will have to wait until I have a scan.

It is a rare 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle rookie with a blank back AND a blank front! A true error and the pride of my collection....................

[edjs]

...and also are the one that told me the E98 is scrap! Anything for you, PS! Hope you enjoy.

[shernan30]

Not sure it this would constitute as a scrap, but its the closest I have.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=587&pictureid=17236 http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=587&pictureid=17237

[Leon]

Somebody take Johnny's temperature!!

T212-1 Scraps acting as proofs, I guess...

From left to right are Christian, Cameron, Ragan, D. Lewis, Easterly (reversed)

[edjs]

Leon,

Don't you have a E98 Black and White of my Cy Young?

[old-baseball]

Have several of these odd-ball E121-120 cards

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=17639
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=17640

[x2drich2000]

Here are a couple that probably fit. The e92 Nadja is just for comparison.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=249&pictureid=14717http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=606&pictureid=14718

DJ

[ullmandds]

As the t206 monster is such a large set issued over 3 yrs you'd expect more scraps of t206 out there.

[Mikehealer]

Here's one, I think Pete has one of these also.

http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/baseball/louisiana/websize/T216%20Crawford.jpg

[ullmandds]

I do mike...but mine looks less scraplike!

[Leon]

Leon,

Don't you have a E98 Black and White of my Cy Young?

E97 black and white and some e100s

[ullmandds]

dunno Leon about that e97 b/w!!!!

[Leon]

dunno Leon about that e97 b/w!!!!

I was only showing it as he asked. I don't think it's scrap or a proof. I think it's probably a very similar but different set.

I dug the T216 find ....

[ullmandds]

Yes...I wish I'd taken more advantage of the y216 bb find as they went reasonably priced and will likely be in collections for a while.

[edjs]

I was only showing it as he asked. I don't think it's scrap or a proof. I think it's probably a very similar but different set.

I dug the T216 find ....

Thanks, Leon. Sorry Pete gave you a hard time about obliging me. I knew it was the same image, I just couldn't remember it exactly. Great 100s, by the way. I, too, dig the T216s.

[mrvster]

Great!!!!!!!!:eek:

T206 are still the best, but these are SEXY:D

[Leon]

Great!!!!!!!!:eek:

T206 are still the best, but these are SEXY:D

Sexy is having this pair with their handwritten prices still on back!!

[botport]

Mike-

That is a sick card. Absolutely gorgeous color. I love it.

[Jaybird]

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/jasonleemiller/1910-1920/T205DunnBlank-1.jpg

[ullmandds]

wow Jason...where'd u find that!!!!

[Jaybird]

wow Jason...where'd u find that!!!!

Grandfather's attic

[ullmandds]

Grandfather's attic

of course!!!

[Mikehealer]

Nice card Jason.


Mike-

That is a sick card. Absolutely gorgeous color. I love it.

Thanks Frank.

[Leon]

Scraps with ghosts are always a fan favorite. If these things (scrap other than T206) ever take off, it won't make me sad. ;) The top is the card...then the Crandall overlay and card for comparison.. Most members have seen these but we are still getting approximately 60-90 new registrants every month so maybe someone hasn't.

[Luke]

I hadn't seen it before. Very cool!

[mrvster]

cards are BEAUTIFUL! I think I am just a freak at heart;)

Ed- I enjoyed you discovering your scrap.....felt excited for you.:) you scored a great card!...like finding a diamond in the rough( how ironic, huh?:))

I'm trying to find a favorite in this thread, but I love 'em all


keep 'em coming( if we can, they are so rare):eek:

[Leon]

cards are BEAUTIFUL! I think I am just a freak at heart;)

Ed- I enjoyed you discovering your scrap.....felt excited for you.:) you scored a great card!...like finding a diamond in the rough( how ironic, huh?:))

I'm trying to find a favorite in this thread, but I love 'em all


keep 'em coming( if we can, they are so rare):eek:

Don't see too many D304 scraps....A weird and unique HRK E136 and a few M116 somethings...

[mrvster]

:eek:

holy SCRAP!

[ullmandds]

I love those m116 no names and the wajo is cool!

[trdcrdkid]

I'm not sure if these officially qualify as scrap, but they seem like they'd be of interest to some people here. I don't know exactly what's up with the ragged right edges. Fullenwider could just be a regular card that got torn, but on closer inspection maybe not, given that at its widest point it's just about as wide as the regular T209-1 in my collection. Walsh is definitely wider at the top and the bottom than a regular T209-1, and it has an uneven left border, all suggesting that it was cut from a strip, or maybe a sheet -- the top and bottom edges also look uneven, now that I look more closely. On the back, Walsh has what looks like a wet-sheet transfer of the bottom half of the blue color from Booles in the same set, while Fullenwider has a factory stamp -- I'm not sure how common those are.

So, all you wet-sheet-transfer and scrap fans, what do I have here? I bought these cards as a pair years ago, cheap, because they were represented as badly damaged.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg98/dkathman1/IMG_20150311_0001.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg98/dkathman1/IMG_20150311_0002.jpg

[Leon]

I'm not sure if these officially qualify as scrap, but they seem like they'd be of interest to some people here. I don't know exactly what's up with the ragged right edges. Fullenwider could just be a regular card that got torn, but on closer inspection maybe not, given that at its widest point it's just about as wide as the regular T209-1 in my collection. Walsh is definitely wider at the top and the bottom than a regular T209-1, and it has an uneven left border, all suggesting that it was cut from a strip, or maybe a sheet -- the top and bottom edges also look uneven, now that I look more closely. On the back, Walsh has what looks like a wet-sheet transfer of the bottom half of the blue color from Booles in the same set, while Fullenwider has a factory stamp -- I'm not sure how common those are.

So, all you wet-sheet-transfer and scrap fans, what do I have here? I bought these cards as a pair years ago, cheap, because they were represented as badly damaged.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg98/dkathman1/IMG_20150311_0001.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg98/dkathman1/IMG_20150311_0002.jpg


I heard there were 3 of the T209-1s with the blue wet sheet transfer on back and yours might be the other one :). It would go great with my two if you ever decide to sell.....I am your guy. Thanks for sharing, and yes those 2 have good value, though it's hard to say exactly how much.

[JohnP0621]

Great cards of Cy Young . Is that the same photo that is used on the T206 but identified as Irv Young?

John P

[Jobu]

I would like to mention that those are not wet sheet transfers but rather the blue ink was actually printed on the back. I think there is way too much detail for those to be WSTs. This is good for you guys because that cements that those are scrap and ought to make them considerably more valuable than if they were WSTs.

I heard there were 3 of the T209-1s with the blue wet sheet transfer on back and yours might be the other one :). It would go great with my two if you ever decide to sell.....I am your guy. Thanks for sharing, and yes those 2 have good value, though it's hard to say exactly how much.

[ullmandds]

i've never seen a factory stamp on a t209...but then again I've never studied them?

[Leon]

I would like to mention that those are not wet sheet transfers but rather the blue ink was actually printed on the back. I think there is way too much detail for those to be WSTs. This is good for you guys because that cements that those are scrap and ought to make them considerably more valuable than if they were WSTs.

Correct, I use the term WST too often. We have discussed these T209s before. I got one from Mike Ber.kus on ebay, many years ago, and the other from my auction partner....But I always heard there was a 3rd one. Too bad the price was probably erased on the back of David's (if this is in fact that third one). :)

Peter- Quite a few of the T209's had the stamps on back due to the mfg info not being on any packaging or the card itself.

[Brian Weisner]

Here's another card from the Berkus hoard...

http://photos.imageevent.com/cardsales/t2091contentneacolorset/huge/Image%20_980_.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/cardsales/t2091contentneacolorset/huge/Image%20_981_.jpg


Be well Brian

[ullmandds]

Thanks leon...cool stuff!

[trdcrdkid]

Hmmmm, interesting. Thanks, everybody! Leon, I'll definitely keep you in mind if I ever decide to sell these. Brian, that Hoffman looks hand-cut too, presumably from the same sheet.

[brass_rat]

I thought this T210 scrap from the most recent Lelands auction was pretty cool:

http://www.lelands.com/Auction/AuctionDetail/75843/Summer-2015-Catalog-Auction/Sports/Baseball-and-Other-Trading-Cards/Lot425~1910-T210-Old-Mill-Willard-Completely-Misprinted

(Pictures taken from the Lelands site.)

Cheers,
Steve

Edited to add: not my card, just a cool card

[atx840]

Great card Steve.

[mrvster]

that is a work of art!:)

[brass_rat]

Oh, I agree, great card...sorry, I should have made it clear that I didn't buy it, just wanted to share it.

For the record, not mine...just neat.

:)

Steve

[btcarfagno]

Oh, I agree, great card...sorry, I should have made it clear that I didn't buy it, just wanted to share it.

For the record, not mine...just neat.

:)

Steve

I was in on it for a while. Got outbid by two or three increments. Spectacular oddity.

Tom C

[robw1959]

Here is one that might be unique. I really like the upside down ghosting on the front side borders. Am thinking about parting with it for the right price . . .

[Eggoman]

Here's my E98 scrap...

[mrvster]

although not "technically scrap" that crofts is a BEAUTY! double ghost front/ mc upside down back.....very sweet!

GREG! An ABSOLUTE BEAUTIFUL blank back! :eek: NOW that is sweeeeeeeeeeeet scrap NOT crap:)

[shernan30]

I thought this T210 scrap from the most recent Lelands auction was pretty cool:

http://www.lelands.com/Auction/AuctionDetail/75843/Summer-2015-Catalog-Auction/Sports/Baseball-and-Other-Trading-Cards/Lot425~1910-T210-Old-Mill-Willard-Completely-Misprinted

(Pictures taken from the Lelands site.)

Cheers,
Steve

Edited to add: not my card, just a cool card

That's a pretty awesome card!!

[Eggoman]

GREG! An ABSOLUTE BEAUTIFUL blank back! :eek: NOW that is sweeeeeeeeeeeet scrap NOT crap:)

Thanks, Man! THAT is the NICEST thing that you have EVER said to me!!! :D

[mrvster]

A true mini "work o' art" there;)

Congrats my friend

[shammus]

Hey Johnny...great thread you have going here. Non-t206 scrap examples are right up my alley since I'm not really into t206s at all. I have a scrap card or some sort of printing goof from most other sets though...here's a few... love the cards with the ridiculous oversized borders!

Will try to post some others later on....

199097

199098

199099

199100

199101

[shammus]

A few more featuring cards with oversized borders -

t210-7 OHalloran where you can see the "white" from whatever sheet this was cut off of. Some neat e98 scrap pieces including a B&W Ford. Not sure how the B&W Ford came to be missing it's color. In all honesty, I've heard that soaking could have done that although the loss of color combined with the irregular cut does suggest a scrap example that missed a few color passes during it's original print run. Also have an e94 Bates with Oversized borders that has been handcut as well as an e98 Tinker that's got a wavy cut and blank back.


199102

199103

199104

[shammus]

Last two....a t213-3 missing color passes and it's caption and a true B&W m116. There is only one other B&W m116 out there...I think it's a Seymour if memory serves....

I've got a couple dozen more....just have to dig them out of the vault...

199105

199106

[mrvster]

OMG........:eek:........................:eek:!!!

I'm amazed:eek:

Honestly, that has to be one of the best "non" T206 scrap collections I have ever seen! WE HAVE to get our collections Together!:eek:;)

That is the definitely a SIDE SHOW FREAK SHOW!


WOW!:eek:


The hook's is just off the hook! the rest are INSANE!


dude!


I'm blown away Brian! what a collection of mini art:eek:

[mrvster]

SHEET TACULAR:D

I just love how they look like they "jumped off an incomplete sheet"........


amazing! AMAZING!

[shammus]

Thanks Johnny!

I've been at it a while collecting these but have been at it pretty quietly over the course of the past several years...I've rarely have the opportunity to post a larger group of 'em all together like this though but you do see my cards popping up in threads on the board from time to time :)

The interesting part is I've thought many times about going after t206 scrap cards and oddities but just always felt that you and some others had pretty advanced collections already in that area so I wanted to hit a side of things that not too many people hadn't really gone after yet.

I appreciate all the kind words too! Comparing our collections would be a pretty epic ordeal. It could be the t206 Scraps vs. the "Everything-else-Scraps"...heh! I'd be down for it sometime :)

Since you seemed to like the m116 sheets...here's a couple more :)

[mrvster]

HOLY SXXT!:eek:

This is AMAZING!

I have never seen a bigger scrap collection, EVER!

you must have close to 100! :eek:

I'M SPEECHLESS!:eek:

THIS IS extremely hard to do, trust me, I know, and just EPIC!
thanks for the kind words.....please come to A/C in 2016 :)

CONGRATS ! on an EPIC, beautiful, collection of these ..........

you have just SPECTACULAR taste...........they are GORGEOUS:eek:

ONE WORD................WOW!

[Peter_Spaeth]

That was speechless?:confused::D

[shammus]

Johnny,

Thank you, kind sir. Truth is, I don't think that everything I have is what you would define as "scrap". Some of it is, but I also have a good array of ghosts, cards with missed color passes, wrong backs, and on and on. Simply put, I like 'em when they look different. When the cards are a complete mystery and I can't tell exactly what happened to it or, in some cases, I can't identify the card at all...even better! One of these days, maybe I'll get around to making a website that shows a few of these off...heh.

Speaking of cards that are a mystery, I have a new one to share tonight with the board - a "headless" t222 Oldring. I'm sure it's not scrap, but it's an oddity of some sort and would love your opinion as well as that of anyone willing to chime in and have a look!

By the way, I've seen some of those multi-strike/multi-ghosted cards you've posted in the past. Insane stuff! I don't even know how they managed to botch those up during the original print runs and print what looks like 15 different cards onto the same sheet over and over...Amazing stuff there...heh!

Best!
Brian

[mrvster]

I was thinking the same thing when I was typing it:).;)..........I think you are one of the best posters here:)......you are on top of every thread and I look forward to your responses.....great stuff;)

Brian.....I'M STILL BLOWN AWAY:eek:

even if half are scrap, it's an AMAZING collection...:eek:....simply OUTSTANDING!WOW!...\

thanks for the kind words about my "circus"......id love for you to see it in person a/c 2016.....

id love to see your collection in person..........we have the exact same taste! I was doing the same and collecting anything "odd" looking on a T206.....I have narrowed my focus to mainly "206 printer scrap" and rare backs within the last few years and have traded many of my smaller errors into scrap/rare backs...

the multi strikes were created by the printer by "running" scrap sheets through the press multiple times to set up the presses..ink distribution, cutting alignment, color, registration, ect....this created the many "multi" strikes on these scraps creating the COOLEST IMAGES..some sheets were used to set up various other issues which links the printing to other issues(those are some of my favorite:))..the printers, over a century ago, in advertently created "mini" works of art on "set up sheets" and they didn't even know it.....now we search for "essentially garbage test sheets of a century ago" which has been converted to " card board gold":)


great stuff brian! do not stop your focus!

THE OLDRING IS CREEPY! I love it! :)

not sure what happened to that one:confused:

[Jobu]

Nice cards Brian, I especially dig the Pfyl Obak.

[mrvster]

btw....those m116 s all look like scrap/ handcut over size borders.wow:eek:

[shammus]

Johnny - Yep, we've got to do something to get our collections in a side-by-side comparision someday. I don't know how you'd compare them exactly, but I bet it would be fun and educational. You could teach me about t206 scrap/oddities and I could show you some goofs from other sets that would surprise you I think :)

Ahhh so there were entire sheets of t206s that got sent through the printer multiple times just to make sure everything was properly calibrated and lined up for the actual print run. Very interesting....I've seen those multi-strikes before and always thought "ok...there's no way that was an accident, someone was just screwing around and having fun". Good to know that's how those came about - see, I already learned something!

Bryan - thank you, I appreciate it! I have no idea how that card managed to not have any black ink....crazy. I've seen many many cards in my day that missed color passes, some that even missed multiple color passes. But it seems as though the pass for the black ink is kind of the foundation from which it all sits on top of. Never seen a card miss the black ink pass before....

[mrvster]

sounds great!!! come to A/C IN 2016:)

I'm brining the "circus":)

[edjs]

Bryan - thank you, I appreciate it! I have no idea how that card managed to not have any black ink....crazy. I've seen many many cards in my day that missed color passes, some that even missed multiple color passes. But it seems as though the pass for the black ink is kind of the foundation from which it all sits on top of. Never seen a card miss the black ink pass before....

It looks like the printer loaded red ink in when he meant to load black. Even the borders and name look red.

[shernan30]

My one and only.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=587&pictureid=17852

[btcarfagno]

Thought this one was kinda neat.

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy203/collectiblesgains/collectiblesgains059/helmarpowell_zpsosa2vl60.jpg

Tom C

[onlychild]

Not really a scrap but a Crawford/Cobb/Turner/Stovall miscut quad player T201. Graded BVG 4.

[mrvster]

GREAT STUFF!

Kevin, although not scrap.....that card is NOT crap!:)

beautiful "quad ":)

[milkit1]

alright Brian! Now we are talking!
Here are my contributions.

202591

202592

202593

202594

202595

202596

202597

[mrvster]

:eek:

[Gradedcardman]

Nice Multi-Strike HOF with Black ink Broadleaf. Thanks to Hank and Scott !!

[mrvster]

SHOW STOPPER!!! OMG!:eek: