1970 Dayton Daily News Willie Mays Variations

[judgejules1]

Happy Friday Everyone!

I'm curious if anyone has any information about listings for 1970 Dayton Daily News Variations? I recently submitted two to PSA, thinking that one may have been from 1970 and the other from 1971, given different stat lines. Both, however, came back as 1970.

My thought is that there perhaps should be two variations:
- 1970 Dayton Daily News Willie Mays Hand Cut 1969 Stat Line
- 1970 Dayton Daily News Willie Mays Hand Cut 1970 Stat Line

Please see pics attached and let me know if anyone has thoughts or information.

Thanks,
Brian

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[hcv123]

I don't know enough about them to tell you what they are, but I can see clearly enough to tell you what they are not - THE SAME! PSA doesn't know their ass from their elbow around most of these kinds of issues and variations. Good luck finding more info on them.

[judgejules1]

Thanks Howard.
Did some more digging in the archive, and looks like I'm not the first to come across this. Found this thread. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=120904&page=2

Clicked through to the blog mentioned, but it's not loading properly for me.
http://uncatalogedbaseballcards.blogspot.com/2010/03/1970-1971-dayton-daily-news.html

[sschauer]

They don't here is the complete checklist with days printed PSA doesn't know or care to notice
http://4192cards.com/missing%20scd/1970-1%20Dayton%20Daily%20News.pdf

The Will Mays was printed 4/11/1970 and 4/9/1971

I verified this by going through microfilm at the Dayton library over a few days just to prove I'm a crazy checklister.

[judgejules1]

Thank you.
This is very helpful. Happy that you did all that checking work!

[Cliff Bowman]

They don't here is the complete checklist with days printed PSA doesn't know or care to notice
http://4192cards.com/missing%20scd/1970-1%20Dayton%20Daily%20News.pdf

The Will Mays was printed 4/11/1970 and 4/9/1971

I verified this by going through microfilm at the Dayton library over a few days just to prove I'm a crazy checklister.
The unknown #196 in your amazing 1970-71 Dayton Daily News Bubble-Gumless checklist is Bob Matheson, Columbia City Collectibles has had one for quite a while.

[sschauer]

The unknown #196 in your amazing 1970-71 Dayton Daily News Bubble-Gumless checklist is Bob Matheson, Columbia City Collectibles has had one for quite a while.

Awesome thanks for the missing link.

[hcv123]

They don't here is the complete checklist with days printed PSA doesn't know or care to notice
http://4192cards.com/missing%20scd/1970-1%20Dayton%20Daily%20News.pdf

The Will Mays was printed 4/11/1970 and 4/9/1971

I verified this by going through microfilm at the Dayton library over a few days just to prove I'm a crazy checklister.

Are the red ones included in the checklist?

[sschauer]

Are the red ones included in the checklist?

Yes Perez and Bench had special insert in the all star section 7/11/70 makes them and Rose have 3 variations each