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bwild22
02-11-2015, 07:25 PM
Is this the real deal? Any advice would be appreciated - the seller claims it has been in his family since it was new

sycks22
02-11-2015, 07:26 PM
Psa 5

bwild22
02-11-2015, 07:28 PM
any help on whether its atleast authentic or not would be much appreciated

ruth-gehrig
02-11-2015, 07:29 PM
Its been in the family since new......so a couple years? :p

Rollingstone206
02-11-2015, 07:29 PM
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Leon
02-11-2015, 07:33 PM
I guess there is "some" entertainment value here.

bwild22
02-11-2015, 07:39 PM
so i take that to mean no good?

tedzan
02-11-2015, 07:41 PM
It looks like some sort of reprint to me.

The original 1952 Topps Mantle was DOUBLE-PRINTED, and there are obvious "distinct differences" on the fronts of the two actual prints.

This image you have posted here is not consistent with these "distinct differences" in the DOUBLE-PRINTED Mantle cards.


TED Z

bwild22
02-11-2015, 07:46 PM
Thank you... i was scared of that... the back showed type 2 to me, but i didnt see the overhang on the corners or the missing pixel on the left on the front... i appreciate the help

Theo_450
02-11-2015, 07:49 PM
Artificial mouse damage. What is next?

bwild22
02-11-2015, 07:51 PM
facebook user, profile pic is a man and wife and the man is a in a cop uniform.... said it was in his family since it was new.... makes things more fun all the time

Rollingstone206
02-11-2015, 08:51 PM
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Misha
02-12-2015, 06:34 AM
Just curious, if it was a real 52 Mantle in this terrible condition, how much do you think it would go for?

vintagehofrookies
02-12-2015, 07:55 AM
after looking at it for 2 sec. I could see its not an authentic 52

CW
02-12-2015, 09:42 AM
Just curious, if it was a real 52 Mantle in this terrible condition, how much do you think it would go for?

My guess would be in the $2500-$3000 range, but it's tough to estimate a collector value when 20% of the card is missing.

Another tell tale sign of artificial aging... notice how the card is all creased up and ripped, but the corners are overall fairly sharp. The wear is inconsistent.

The biggest flag, though, is in the image. The color and print are all wrong, as other have noticed and pointed out.

freakhappy
02-12-2015, 10:02 AM
My guess would be in the $2500-$3000 range, but it's tough to estimate a collector value when 20% of the card is missing.

Another tell tale sign of artificial aging... notice how the card is all creased up and ripped, but the corners are overall fairly sharp. The wear is inconsistent.

The biggest flag, though, is in the image. The color and print are all wrong, as other have noticed and pointed out.

Do you think it would still go for that price range considering a chunk of it is missing? I don't doubt you Chuck, because I know you're a beast in the collecting world :D, but that seems like a lot...I would guess around 1-1.5k, but I'm not an expert on '52 Mantle's. That being said, the most important parts of the card are still intact, so maybe it would be closer to your guesstimate.

CW
02-12-2015, 12:32 PM
Do you think it would still go for that price range considering a chunk of it is missing? I don't doubt you Chuck, because I know you're a beast in the collecting world :D, but that seems like a lot...I would guess around 1-1.5k, but I'm not an expert on '52 Mantle's. That being said, the most important parts of the card are still intact, so maybe it would be closer to your guesstimate.

:D HAha... I'm no beast, Mike, but I appreciate the compliment. :)

I think you are right and I was off on the first estimate -- $2K tops with that much missing, and your 1.5K looks good.

The damage on the fake Mantle posted in the OP is so over the top. We see a lot of beaters in the hobby, many cards that are "well loved", but it seems rare to find a card ripped up like that (usually at that point the card would be tossed out, not worth saving).