PDA

View Full Version : Can anyone identify exactly where this crossword comes from? MYSTERY SOLVED.


mrmopar
01-03-2015, 01:26 PM
This is larger than the baseball digest crosswords that ran from the late early 70s into the early 80s. I got this in a lot of newspaper articles and clippings and have no idea where it originally came from. I'd like to find out and get the entire item someday. I originally guessed Sporting News, but have not been able to confirm, as I don't have any older copies.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/mrmopar/My%20Collection/STEVE%20GARVEY%20STUFF/SNXword.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/mrmopar/media/My%20Collection/STEVE%20GARVEY%20STUFF/SNXword.jpg.html)

sschauer
01-03-2015, 06:12 PM
They are from Baseball Digest here is the checklist that I've pieced together not sure if there are more The Garvey is from 75-May edition

Jul-71 Mickey Mantle
Aug-71 Pete Rose
Sep-71 Ernie Banks
Oct-71 Reggie Jackson
Nov-71 Merv Rettmund
Dec-71 Mudcat Grant
Jan-72 Willie Mays
Feb-72 Joe Torre
Mar-72 Yoggi Berra
Apr-72 Amos Ottis
May-72 Danny Murtaugh
Jun-72 Sam McDowell
Jul-72 Roberto Clemente
Aug-72 Johnny Bench
Sep-72 Vida Blue
Oct-72 Ted Williams
Nov-72 Dave McNally
Dec-72 Bill Virdon
Jan-73 Steve Carlton
Feb-73 Carlton Fisk
Mar-73 Tom Seaver
Apr-73 Dick Allen
May-73 Walter Alston
Jun-73 -
Jul-73 -
Aug-73 -
Sep-73 -
Oct-73 Billy Williams
Nov-73 Cookie Rojas
Dec-73 Rod Carew
Jan-74 Hank Aaron
Feb-74 Nolan Ryan
Mar-74 -
Apr-74 Willie Stargell
May-74 Bobby Murcer
Jun-74 Bert Blyleven
Jul-74 Nate Colbert
Aug-74 Jim Hunter
Sep-74 Joe Coleman
Oct-74 Alex Johnson
Nov-74 Bob Gibson
Dec-74 Jim Wynn
Jan-75 Jeff Burroughs
Feb-75 Ken Brett
Mar-75 Lou Brock
Apr-75 Rusty Staub
May-75 Steve Garvey
Jun-75 Frank Robinson
Jul-75 Steve Busby
Aug-75 Dave Concepcion
Sep-75 Ferguson Jenkins
Oct-75 Larry Bowa
Nov-75 Phil Niekro
Dec-75 Sal Bando Special Edition
Dave Concepcion
Jan-76 Luis Tiant
Feb-76 Joe Morgan
Mar-76 Fred Lynn
Apr-76 John Montefusco
May-76 George Scott
Jun-76 Bill Madlock
Jul-76 Mickey Lolich
Aug-76 Don Kessinger
Sep-76 Larry Hisle
Oct-76 Larry Dierker
Nov-76 Bobby Grich
Dec-76 Randy Jones
Jan-77 George Brett
Feb-77 George Foster
Mar-77 Jim Palmer
Apr-77 Thurman Munson
May-77 Ron Cey
Jun-77 Frank Tanana
Jul-77 Carl Yastrzemski
Aug-77 Greg Luzinski
Sep-77 Willie Montanez
Oct-77 Gaylord Perry
Nov-77 Dave Parker
Dec-77 Willie Randolph
Jan-78 Don Sutton
Feb-78 Rick Burleson
Mar-78 Willie McCovey
Apr-78 Ken Griffey Sr
May-78 Brooks Robinson
Jun-78 Rick Reuschel
Jul-78 Barry Bonds Sr
Aug-78 Ted Simmons
Sep-78 Mike Schmidt
Oct-78 Hal McRae
Nov-78 Ross Grimsley
Dec-78 Dave Winfield
Jan-79 Ron Guidry
Feb-79 Reggie Smith
Mar-79 Jim Rice
Apr-79 Boog Powell
May-79 Gary Mathews
Jun-79 Ron LeFlore
Jul-79 Enos Cabell
Aug-79 Al Oliver
Sep-79 Manny Sunguillen
Oct-79 Mike Marshall
Nov-79 Lee Mazzilli
Dec-79 Don Baylor
Jan-80 Bob Boone
Feb-80 Darrell Porter
Mar-80 Larry Parrish
Apr-80 Chet Lemon
May-80 Dave Kingman
Jun-80 Bruce Bochte
Jul-80 Davey Lopes
Aug-80 Cecil Cooper
Sep-80 Garry Templeton
Oct-80 Roy Smalley
Nov-80 Joe Niekro
Dec-80 Ken Singleton
Jan-81 Omar Moreno
Feb-81 Jack Clark
Mar-81 Mike Norris
Apr-81 Reggie Jackson
May-81 Andre Dawson
Jun-81 Johnny Bench

mrmopar
01-03-2015, 09:29 PM
Thank you for the reply, but I am positive that this is not from Baseball Digest. For starters, this one is larger than the common Baseball Digest crosswords and may actually be larger than the entire BD magazine itself. I'd have to measure it to be sure, but it is definitely larger. I think a few of the earliest Baseball Digest crosswords were the Cross/Currents format with Linnett portraits. Mantle for sure, as I have one scanned that I pulled from a Baseball Digest. Most of them are a different design though. In fact, there were several slight variations to the design.

I am almost certain the 75 Baseball Digest Garvey crossword is a different portrait. In fact it must be because it would have been drawn by Jack Bender. I can't remember for sure and my copies are still in the magazines and tucked away in storage , so finding/scanning them might prove difficult. Also, by 75 Linnett was no longer drawing the portraits and the 75 Garvey is a different design.

I did the same thing you did and cataloged the Baseball Digest crosswords. I bought a fair number or larger lots in order to get all of them and had to make sure they were not marked as well. I ended up with a fair amount of partial and fully completed crosswords in my quest. I just never shared the checklist to the public, but did try to sell singles (my dupes) on ebay many years back.

Here is the Mantle:http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/mrmopar/Miscellaneous%20Items/Misc%20BB/XwordLinnett.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/mrmopar/media/Miscellaneous%20Items/Misc%20BB/XwordLinnett.jpg.html)

Typical early 70s Linnett portrait design:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/mrmopar/Miscellaneous%20Items/Misc%20BB/PA170023.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/mrmopar/media/Miscellaneous%20Items/Misc%20BB/PA170023.jpg.html)

Early version Bender portraits:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/mrmopar/Miscellaneous%20Items/Misc%20BB/PA170024.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/mrmopar/media/Miscellaneous%20Items/Misc%20BB/PA170024.jpg.html)

Later version Bender portraits:http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/mrmopar/Miscellaneous%20Items/Misc%20BB/PA170022.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/mrmopar/media/Miscellaneous%20Items/Misc%20BB/PA170022.jpg.html)

The portrait in this Garvey crossword is the same portrait that is featured on the 8x10 Linnett portraits that he sold as singles and in packs. And of course, Linnet portraits were also featured on these Reds, Red Sox & dodger cards:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/mrmopar/Miscellaneous%20Items/Misc%20BB/LinnettSuperstars1976.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/mrmopar/media/Miscellaneous%20Items/Misc%20BB/LinnettSuperstars1976.jpg.html)

sschauer
01-04-2015, 03:46 AM
Great information never knew there were others Baseball digest used to be online on google but looks like they took them down so couldn't pull up the garvey from that issue to compare. Curious if there is now another Rose to track down for my collection.

http://4192cards.com/rose/mags/60-70magads/images/1971%20Baseball%20Digest%20-%20Crossword%20Puzzle%20Aug.jpg

mrmopar
01-04-2015, 11:40 AM
It's possible. I didn't review your list and mine is buried, but I think at least a few players who had an early Linnett portrait got a Bender portrait later (Bench & Jackson, maybe Munson perhaps?). However, Linnett did the BD Rose and odds are, if there is another, it might be one like my Garvey that was used in a different periodical. It would likely be the same portrait, but in a larger size. I tried looking for info on Linnett and it is somewhat sparse. He apparently provided portraits in the late 60s in a variety of newspapers, but he was never syndicated.

JollyElm
01-04-2015, 09:25 PM
They are from Baseball Digest here is the checklist that I've pieced together not sure if there are more The Garvey is from 75-May edition

Jul-71 Mickey Mantle
Aug-71 Pete Rose
Sep-71 Ernie Banks
Oct-71 Reggie Jackson
Nov-71 Merv Rettmund
Dec-71 Mudcat Grant
Jan-72 Willie Mays
Feb-72 Joe Torre
Mar-72 Yoggi Berra
Apr-72 Amos Ottis
May-72 Danny Murtaugh
Jun-72 Sam McDowell
Jul-72 Roberto Clemente
Aug-72 Johnny Bench
Sep-72 Vida Blue
Oct-72 Ted Williams
Nov-72 Dave McNally
Dec-72 Bill Virdon
Jan-73 Steve Carlton
Feb-73 Carlton Fisk
Mar-73 Tom Seaver
Apr-73 Dick Allen
May-73 Walter Alston
Jun-73 -
Jul-73 -
Aug-73 -
Sep-73 -
Oct-73 Billy Williams
Nov-73 Cookie Rojas
Dec-73 Rod Carew
Jan-74 Hank Aaron
Feb-74 Nolan Ryan
Mar-74 -
Apr-74 Willie Stargell
May-74 Bobby Murcer
Jun-74 Bert Blyleven
Jul-74 Nate Colbert
Aug-74 Jim Hunter
Sep-74 Joe Coleman
Oct-74 Alex Johnson
Nov-74 Bob Gibson
Dec-74 Jim Wynn
Jan-75 Jeff Burroughs
Feb-75 Ken Brett
Mar-75 Lou Brock
Apr-75 Rusty Staub
May-75 Steve Garvey
Jun-75 Frank Robinson
Jul-75 Steve Busby
Aug-75 Dave Concepcion
Sep-75 Ferguson Jenkins
Oct-75 Larry Bowa
Nov-75 Phil Niekro
Dec-75 Sal Bando Special Edition
Dave Concepcion
Jan-76 Luis Tiant
Feb-76 Joe Morgan
Mar-76 Fred Lynn
Apr-76 John Montefusco
May-76 George Scott
Jun-76 Bill Madlock
Jul-76 Mickey Lolich
Aug-76 Don Kessinger
Sep-76 Larry Hisle
Oct-76 Larry Dierker
Nov-76 Bobby Grich
Dec-76 Randy Jones
Jan-77 George Brett
Feb-77 George Foster
Mar-77 Jim Palmer
Apr-77 Thurman Munson
May-77 Ron Cey
Jun-77 Frank Tanana
Jul-77 Carl Yastrzemski
Aug-77 Greg Luzinski
Sep-77 Willie Montanez
Oct-77 Gaylord Perry
Nov-77 Dave Parker
Dec-77 Willie Randolph
Jan-78 Don Sutton
Feb-78 Rick Burleson
Mar-78 Willie McCovey
Apr-78 Ken Griffey Sr
May-78 Brooks Robinson
Jun-78 Rick Reuschel
Jul-78 Barry Bonds Sr
Aug-78 Ted Simmons
Sep-78 Mike Schmidt
Oct-78 Hal McRae
Nov-78 Ross Grimsley
Dec-78 Dave Winfield
Jan-79 Ron Guidry
Feb-79 Reggie Smith
Mar-79 Jim Rice
Apr-79 Boog Powell
May-79 Gary Mathews
Jun-79 Ron LeFlore
Jul-79 Enos Cabell
Aug-79 Al Oliver
Sep-79 Manny Sunguillen
Oct-79 Mike Marshall
Nov-79 Lee Mazzilli
Dec-79 Don Baylor
Jan-80 Bob Boone
Feb-80 Darrell Porter
Mar-80 Larry Parrish
Apr-80 Chet Lemon
May-80 Dave Kingman
Jun-80 Bruce Bochte
Jul-80 Davey Lopes
Aug-80 Cecil Cooper
Sep-80 Garry Templeton
Oct-80 Roy Smalley
Nov-80 Joe Niekro
Dec-80 Ken Singleton
Jan-81 Omar Moreno
Feb-81 Jack Clark
Mar-81 Mike Norris
Apr-81 Reggie Jackson
May-81 Andre Dawson
Jun-81 Johnny Bench

Who's Barry Bonds Sr??

mrmopar
03-08-2015, 02:04 PM
Finally dug out the Baseball Digest that has Garvey. I couldn't bring myself to cut one out!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/mrmopar/My%20Collection/STEVE%20GARVEY%20STUFF/Baseball%20Digest%20Garvey%201975_zps6z4thjmv.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/mrmopar/media/My%20Collection/STEVE%20GARVEY%20STUFF/Baseball%20Digest%20Garvey%201975_zps6z4thjmv.jpg. html)

It's still a mystery to me where the other one came from originally, although I am guessing Sporting News.

mrmopar
09-20-2015, 11:38 AM
In case anyone cares…

Bringing this one back to life because I finally found out where the original crossword came from. I checked the back and it had an article about Andy Messersmith. I was able to determine from that information, the author and the partial title of the article, where it was published! Not sure why I didn't think of this before.

I was right all along. It is in fact from The Sporting News from 1976. I have the full issue with unmarked crossword on the way as of today, after confirming with a seller that it is in this particular issue and unmarked!

TSN seems to be a bit harder to find in bulk for cheap compared to Baseball Digest, so I won't be compiling the checklist like I did with Baseball Digest but I would love to know how many different subjects appear in this type of crossword in TSN. Anyone have complete runs from the 70s and some time to re-read them? The only TSNs I have feature Garvey/Dodger covers and are buried somewhere right now.

Love a good mystery and score one for the internet again!

Mark70Z
09-20-2015, 07:28 PM
In case anyone cares… Love a good mystery and score one for the internet again!

I care... Love the odd-ball stuff and even though I'm not a Garvey collector I like a good mystery. Glad to hear that you tracked it down. Really liked this thread as well so I liked to view it once again.

I have a few advertising cutouts that I have (that are in very POOR shape) that I'd like to ultimately get better examples one day. Just have to track them down, like you, to find out what issue they are from.

Thanks for sharing...