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nolemmings
12-28-2014, 01:05 PM
September of last year I asked for front and back scans of the various m101-4/5 sets, and am thankful for having received several generous responses.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172727
I am renewing my request again, as I am trying to confirm existing front-back combinations for all of the advertisers of these sets. If you have front-back scans that you are willing to share, I would greatly appreciate it. As of now, here are the number of different subjects with confirmed backs from each set. I will ask for more specific info on a few of the advertisers in this thread, but any scans would be appreciated.

Famous & Barr 206
Herpolsheimer 197
Weil Baking 164
Globe Clothing 155
Standard Biscuit 145
Sporting News 142
Indy Brewing 118
Morehouse Baking 114
Holmes to Homes 79
Gimbels 69
Green-Joyce 55
Ware's Basement 47
Altoona Tribune 46
Block & Kuhl 43
Successful Farming 34
Everybody's 23
Burgess-Nash 20
Mall Theatre 15

nolemmings
12-28-2014, 01:08 PM
I have yet to confirm the following Famous & Barr front-back combinations:
#23 Chance, #177 Tyler, #179 Veach and #180 Viox (need scan) (Tyler may not exist)

I have yet to confirm the following Herpolsheimer front-back combinations:
#40 Cravath, #130 Murphy and #150 Russell

I also need many scans from the Herpolsheimer set. A near set missing only a handful or so was sold a couple of years back in a major auction house and the pop reports shows almost all of the set, so I consider these to be confirmed but would like scans anyway if you please.

nolemmings
12-28-2014, 01:54 PM
I would like to confirm the existence of the following Weil Baking (D329) cards by front and back scans, if you would be so kind to oblige. Thanks in advance.

Unconfirmed:
Austin
Baker
Bancroft
Barry
Beck
Cheney
Connoly
Coveleskie
Dale
Demaree
Donovan
Doolan
Fischer
Gibson
Graney
Harmon
Judge
Killefer
Konetchy
Lewis
Lobert
Long
Mayer
McInnis
Mitchell
Ragan
Saier
Sallee
Schang
Smith
Toney
Vitt
WilsonJO
Wood
Zwilling

Need front-back scans:
Adams
Ainsmith
Cady
Callahan
Chalmers
Chapman
Cicotte
CollinsE
Daubert
Deal
Dugey
Evers
Flack
Fletcher
Fournier
Gandil
Hartzell
Herzog
Hoblitzell
Howard
Huggins
Jackson
Johnson
Lavender
Luderus
Meyers
Moran
Moriarty
Myers
Oldring
Peckinpaugh
Rariden
Rixey
Roth
Rucker
ScottE
ScottJ
Seaton
Shawkey
Snodgrass
Stanage
Stengel
Stock
Sullivan
Tyler
Vaughan
Weaver
WilsonA
Zimmerman

buymycards
12-28-2014, 02:25 PM
Hi Todd, I am confused, as always. Aren't Weil Baking cards D328 and D329?

Thanks, Rick

nolemmings
12-28-2014, 02:25 PM
Would love front-back scans of the following Sporting News backs--the pop reports are so unreliable on this back that I disregard them completely.

Agnew, Sam 2
Ainsmith, Eddie 3
Archer, Jimmy 6
Baird, H.D. 8
Bancroft, Dave 10
Beck, Zinn 12
Bescher, Bob 15
Burns, George 19
Burns, Geo. J 20
Bush, "Donie" 22
Caldwell, Ray 27
Chalmers, George 29
Connolly, Joe 37
Coveleskie, Harry 39
Crawford, Sam 41
Daubert, Jake 43
Demaree, Al 45
Doak, William 47
Donovan, Bill 48
Dubuc, Jean 52
Felsch, "Hap" 56
Flack, Max 59
Fletcher, Art 60
Foster, Eddie 61
Fournier, Jacques 62
Gandil "Chic" 64
Getz, Gus 67
Gibson, Geo. 68
Graney, John 71
Griffith, Tom 73
Groh, Heinie 74
Hamilton, Earl 75
Harmon, Bob 76
Hartzell, Roy 77
Hendrix, Claude 78
Henriksen, Olaf 79
Henry, John 80
Hoblitzell, Dick 83
Janvrin, Harold 89
Killefer, Wm. Jr. 95
Lavender, Jimmy 100
Leonard, H. B. 102
Lobert, Hans 104
Mamaux, Al. 110
Merkle, Fred 118
Meyers, Chief 119
Myers, "Hy" 131
Niehoff, J.a. 132
Roth, Bob 145
Saier, Vic 152
Schulte, Frank 156
Scott, Everett 157
Seaton, Tom 159
Shore, Ernie 162
Smith, J. Carlisle 165
Stanage, Oscar 168
Stock, Milton 170
Toney, Fred 175
Tyler, George 177
Veach, Bob 179
Wambganss, W. 185
Wilson, Art 191
Wilson, J. Owen 192
Young, "Pep" 197

nolemmings
12-28-2014, 02:30 PM
Hi Todd, I am confused, as always. Aren't Weil Baking cards D328 and D329?

You're right Rick--good catch. I had a brain cramp. If you do find some D380s with Weil Baking instead of Clement Bros Bread backs, let me know and I'll pay you dearly :)

Just looking for D329s.

milkit1
12-28-2014, 02:38 PM
Email sent

sreader3
12-28-2014, 03:55 PM
Hi Todd,

I can confirm Harmon with TSN. I'll see if I can find/post a scan tonight.

Best,

Scot

Edited to add: I didn't save a back scan but I know this was a TSN and not a blank from my eBay listing title when I sold the card (confirmed by the fact that it doesn't say "BLANK BACK" on the flip).

paul
12-28-2014, 07:54 PM
Have you been able to confirm Zack Wheat with a Standard Biscuit back? The Standard Biscuit set includes Bobby Wallace, who was replaced by Wheat for most other backs. But I've always been curious as to whether Wallace made it all the way through the entire print run for Standard Biscuit.

kdixon
12-28-2014, 08:30 PM
Paul, I have a Wheat Standard Biscuit.

frohme
12-28-2014, 08:45 PM
Confirming Art Wilson.

nolemmings
12-28-2014, 10:13 PM
Thanks for the responses guys--keep 'em coming. I've added a few more to my database now.

Scot, I now remember that Harmon because I almost bought it from you. Any chance you have your old emails from mid-July '10? I have one from you of Harmon but only a front scan. I cannot seem to locate many of my emails from that period.

Kenny, nice Wheat but it's not from the same set that lines up with m101-4/5.

Have you been able to confirm Zack Wheat with a Standard Biscuit back? Yes and no Paul. There is a Standard Biscuit Wheat in the PSA pop report that lines up with D350-1/m101-4 (card #188), but none in the reports that lines up with D350-1/m101-5, nor have I a scan of one.

ValKehl
12-29-2014, 07:55 AM
Kenny, your nice Zach Wheat card is part of the 1917 Standard Biscuit issue which is referred to as the D350-2 set. Here's a link to the Old Cardboard Magazine's comparison info for the 3 Standard Biscuit sets: http://www.oldcardboard.com/d/d350/d350.asp?cardsetID=994
Val

VoodooChild
12-29-2014, 08:19 AM
September of last year I asked for front and back scans of the various m101-4/5 sets, and am thankful for having received several generous responses.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172727
I am renewing my request again, as I am trying to confirm existing front-back combinations for all of the advertisers of these sets. If you have front-back scans that you are willing to share, I would greatly appreciate it. As of now, here are the number of different subjects with confirmed backs from each set. I will ask for more specific info on a few of the advertisers in this thread, but any scans would be appreciated.

Famous & Barr 206
Herpolsheimer 197
Weil Baking 164
Globe Clothing 155
Standard Biscuit 145
Sporting News 142
Indy Brewing 118
Morehouse Baking 114
Holmes to Homes 79
Gimbels 69
Green-Joyce 55
Ware's Basement 47
Altoona Tribune 46
Block & Kuhl 43
Successful Farming 34
Everybody's 23
Burgess-Nash 20
Mall Theatre 15

Here's what I have Todd. I also have a Famous and Barr H.D. Baird that I will try and scan later.

sreader3
12-29-2014, 10:25 AM
Scot, I now remember that Harmon because I almost bought it from you. Any chance you have your old emails from mid-July '10? I have one from you of Harmon but only a front scan. I cannot seem to locate many of my emails from that period.



Todd, Yes, you are right that we had an email or PM discussion about Harmon way back when. Unfortunately I don't have any emails pre-2011 when my former PC crashed. I'm confident it was a TSN back since I wouldn't have advertised it as such in an eBay listing if it were blank. Best, Scot

Den*nis O*Brien
12-29-2014, 11:35 AM
Murphy on Herpolsheimer card number 130 confirmed. Some various other examples for Todd's research.

nolemmings
12-29-2014, 11:40 AM
PM sent Dennis--actually two

Den*nis O*Brien
12-29-2014, 11:58 AM
Shauno for the research. Hi Todd I will be sending a PM promptly.

nolemmings
12-29-2014, 12:16 PM
Very nice cards--thanks!

TheBig6
12-29-2014, 12:32 PM
Todd, Here's one, I think you need
http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/cardbacks/websize/weilshuggins.jpg

ValKehl
12-29-2014, 05:04 PM
Hi Todd,
I just sent you a "regular" email (not thru Net54) with scans of my D329 Weil Baking cards of Joe Judge & Walter Johnson.

In this email, I also listed the other M101-4/5 related cards that I currently have plus the 39 Indy Brewing cards I had once upon a time and still have scans of. LMK if you need scans of any of these cards.
Best,
Val

nolemmings
12-29-2014, 06:27 PM
E-mail received and reply sent. Thanks Val.

frohme
12-29-2014, 10:46 PM
Hey Todd - another scan if needed.

Harmon, #76

tonyo
12-30-2014, 05:42 AM
Thanks for all the work on M101-4/5 Todd!

Here is a Merkle SN

My only others are Eddie Collins Standard Biscuit #33, Max Carey Globe Clothing #28, Rabbit Maranville F&B #109. I didn't read your first post closely enough before I scanned the Merkle, so if you need scans of the others let me know.

Happy New Year!

Tony

Eggoman
12-30-2014, 06:08 AM
Hey Todd:

I've got an M101-4 Cobbb that's a Blank Back...not sure that you are interested (Or keeping track of these). I would be happy to send a scan if you (or anyone) is interested...

Eggo

Den*nis O*Brien
12-30-2014, 12:02 PM
Hi Todd, We had trouble putting this scan into your PM and regular email. So...I hope these 5 are of use to your project.
Dennis

nolemmings
12-30-2014, 12:51 PM
Thanks again guys. As I told someone privately, I am a scan hoarder of these m101s, and will take whatever you are willing to send/post. Even if I have confirmed the existence of certain subjects, I welcome "doubles" to help with my own understanding of populations. In fact, even if I have your particular card, I don't mind a better scan--this often happens when all I have is spotty scans from ebay or an auction house that is selling by lot so that individual cards are hard to make out. Raw cards especially welcome, as they fly under the radar of the pop reports and thus can help confirm subjects. IOW, all scans accepted and appreciated (any back story as well).

Dennis, I know it sounds silly, but I would like to see corresponding scans for the backs of your blanks. Often there are are little nicks, light spots, marks, discoloration etc that help me track the card better if I ever see it down the road. BTW, I'm finally starting to see a pattern in what you've provided--all Chicago players. Nice.

nolemmings
12-30-2014, 01:24 PM
As an example of how ridiculously absorbed I am in these sets, here are two Joe Connolly's with a noticeable print mark in the lower right corner, which seem to exist only on Famous & Barr and Morehouse Baking versions, not the Altoona Tribune, Blank, Everybody's, Gimbels, Globe, Indy Brewing, Standard Biscuit and Ware's cards I have scanned. This suggests that this flaw was found only in m101-5.
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/miscellaneous/websize/connollysumdge.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/miscellaneous/websize/connollysumdge2.jpg