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1952boyntoncollector
12-11-2014, 06:32 AM
You always here how the 50 is the new 40 in terms of age..

Its starting to look like market value was..the PSA 4 1952 Topps Mantle is the new PSA 5 1952 Topps Mantle this year...at least the PSA 4.5..

GregC
12-11-2014, 06:36 AM
I think some of these 4.5's that are surfacing are incredible. Matty's and this PWCC one look like 7's with that centering.

Centered 52T Mantle's aren't too common. Seeing huge premiums for such incredible examples.

Peter_Spaeth
12-11-2014, 06:48 AM
Matt's. while a phenomenal example, seems fairly graded. At least from the scan, the grade on PWCC's seems harsh. I suspect it still has a fair way to go before a final price.

GregC
12-11-2014, 07:05 AM
Matt's. while a phenomenal example, seems fairly graded. At least from the scan, the grade on PWCC's seems harsh. I suspect it still has a fair way to go before a final price.

I've held it in hand and have to strongly disagree. I have a ton of 4.5's in my collection and it's a head scratcher.

PWCC one is certainly hitting $30k and it would be a bargain at that price. I for one was optimistic it might stay a bit lower with the good old Xmas bonus coming but no such luck LOL. Both are absolutely amazing examples of #311.

Peter_Spaeth
12-11-2014, 07:55 AM
When was the last PWCC card that went for less than expected? :)

1952boyntoncollector
12-11-2014, 07:58 AM
SGC 6 not centered well sold for 23,000 to 1***p who is a big buyer..

Still a PSA 4.5 a PSA 4.5 and a PSA 5 1952 Mantle out there for sale....could probably buy all three for 100k...

Jdoggs
12-11-2014, 09:42 AM
SGC 6 not centered well sold for 23,000 to 1***p who is a big buyer..

Still a PSA 4.5 a PSA 4.5 and a PSA 5 1952 Mantle out there for sale....could probably buy all three for 100k...

The sale of the SGC 6 mantle today was not legit. The seller has 0 feedback and someone mentioned the seller said he got the card from his grandmother so it's a fake sale.
In this market an SGC 6 1952 topps mantle would be worth at least $50,000 as PSA 6's have sold recently for over $60,000 in private sales.

Republicaninmass
12-11-2014, 09:43 AM
IS this Manlte SGC 60 the one from the seller of 0 feedback? He sold this card last week for 4500.


The sky is falling! Sell me your Mantles while you still can!

Jdoggs
12-11-2014, 09:50 AM
IS this Manlte SGC 60 the one from the seller of 0 feedback? He sold this card last week for 4500.


The sky is falling! Sell me your Mantles while you still can!
It's the mantle SGC 80 from the seller with 0 feedback that is a fake sale.
1952 topps mantle SGC 80's are worth a minimum of $50,000 now. There have been private sales recently for PSA 6's for over $60,000.

1952boyntoncollector
12-11-2014, 09:52 AM
Seller: Thank you for your purchase of the 1952 Mantle SGC 6...please pay by check for the $20,000

Buyer: Thanks I got a good deal, before I pay I would like for SGC to authenticate the card

Seller: No can do, my grandmother would be against that.

Buyer: I only 'bought' the card to prevent you from taking advantage of others.

Seller: The card is real

Buyer: Ok, Ill send you a check from Nigeria, I can only write the check for $30,000, so send me the $10,000 overpay and we will be even

Seller: Ok, sounds good.....oh wait a minute!

Jdoggs
12-11-2014, 09:55 AM
Seller: Thank you for your purchase of the 1952 Mantle PSA 6...please pay by check for the $20,000

Buyer: Thanks I got a good deal, before I pay I would like for SGC to authenticate the card

Seller: No can do, my grandmother would be against that.

Buyer: I only 'bought' the card to prevent you from taking advantage of others.

Seller: The card id real

Buyer: Ok, Ill send you a check from Nigeria, I can only write the check for $30,000, so send me the $10,000 overpay and we will be even

Seller: Ok, sounds good.....oh wait a minute!

Haha very nice!
52 topps mantle's have skyrocketed. There were two 52 topps mantle PSA 7 private sales recently for over $100,000. There was another private sale recently of a nice 52 topps mantle SGC 80 for over $60,000.

1952boyntoncollector
12-11-2014, 09:59 AM
Haha very nice!
52 topps mantle's have skyrocketed. There were two 52 topps mantle PSA 7 private sales recently for over $100,000. There was another private sale recently of a nice 52 topps mantle SGC 80 for over $60,000.

where are private sales recorded

Jdoggs
12-11-2014, 10:09 AM
where are private sales recorded

The 52 topps mantle PSA 7 recent private sales for over $100,000 each are not recorded in VCP.

MattyC
12-11-2014, 11:10 AM
IS this Manlte SGC 60 the one from the seller of 0 feedback? He sold this card last week for 4500.


The sky is falling! Sell me your Mantles while you still can!

That's a funny post!

And yes, so many cards are sold privately that the VCP data is only part of the equation. Sometimes a very small part, considering private sales. I can confirm a collector with a beautiful collection just sold a 7 for 100k, shortly after upgrading. Can also confirm a centered SGC 6 sale at 50k+.

Sean1125
12-11-2014, 12:16 PM
I have seen Matt's Mantle in hand and do not believe it would look out of place in a 5. I believe the surface of the PWCC one is the problem while it has sharper corners, the one with better aesthetics is Matt's, it lacks the scuffing in the blue.

1952boyntoncollector
12-11-2014, 12:20 PM
I contacted the seller and asked if the sale falls through I interested in a cash deal..-----

---guess the card is still available..this listing looks more and more legit



The buyer wants to make payments and that's something I can't do. If you're
interested?



if deal falls through let me know I can pay cash

-kingzofchrome2014

1952boyntoncollector
12-11-2014, 12:22 PM
so far on suspicious mantle listings...when I contacted the seller after the 'sale' if the card falls through after its sold....thus far 2 out of 2 times its still available....amazing!..

Jdoggs
12-11-2014, 12:50 PM
I have seen Matt's Mantle in hand and do not believe it would look out of place in a 5. I believe the surface of the PWCC one is the problem while it has sharper corners, the one with better aesthetics is Matt's, it lacks the scuffing in the blue.

I agree the surface and color on Matt's 4.5 is as good as it gets.

1952boyntoncollector
12-11-2014, 12:56 PM
.5 grades are pretty uncommon versus the whole grade..yet there are four 4.5 1952 topps mantles on ebay right now and zero 4s...

1952boyntoncollector
12-11-2014, 08:44 PM
IS this Manlte SGC 60 the one from the seller of 0 feedback? He sold this card last week for 4500.


The sky is falling! Sell me your Mantles while you still can!



where you showing he sold the card for 4500 last week..i don't see it ..

Peter_Spaeth
12-11-2014, 09:03 PM
where you showing he sold the card for 4500 last week..i don't see it ..

I saw it too in completed auctions LOL. That one had the full PWCC scan.

Here LOL.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-SETBREAK-Mickey-Mantle-ROOKIE-RC-311-SGC-6-80-EXMT-PWCC-/321599728167?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item4ae0d66a27

1952boyntoncollector
12-11-2014, 10:36 PM
I saw it too in completed auctions LOL. That one had the full PWCC scan.

Here LOL.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-SETBREAK-Mickey-Mantle-ROOKIE-RC-311-SGC-6-80-EXMT-PWCC-/321599728167?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item4ae0d66a27

haha..the guy wanted to sell me the card for 19000..i told him I would check with PWCC as he said his grandfather bought it as his last purchase earlier this year....who actually pays these guys.