Negro League [?] ID Help

[Exhibitman]

I picked up this snapshot a while ago and would like to ID the teams and players ideally. Anything would help.

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/NL%20snap.jpg
http://fromdeeprightfield.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/oscar-charleston-2.jpg

[bcbgcbrcb]

Looks like possibly Oscar Charleston in the Giants uniform. He played for three Giants teams:

Chicago American Giants in 1919 (uniform doesn't match)
St. Louis Giants in 1921
Harrisburg Giants in 1924-27 ('24 & '26 uniforms don't match)

Other player looks like he might be wearing a Hilldale cap..........

[Exhibitman]

Charleston. That would be exciting.

Looking at the photo in hand close up the guy on the left does have an H on his hat. That is interesting. Hilldale and Harrisburg both were in the Eastern Colored League in the mid-1920s. Just spitballing here but if it is Charleston and the other guy is a hilldale player, Biz Mackey?

The snap is a velox print, BTW.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Also of note, Charleston played for Hilldale immediately after he left Harrisburg for the '28 & '29 seasons.

My first thought on the other player was that it looked kind of like Dihigo but the guy in the photo appears shorter and more well-built as opposed to the slender Dihigo during his early days in the 1920's.

I did find this photo of Mackey on the internet, not sure exactly when this was taken or what Giants team this is. The lettering on the jersey looks very similar to the lettering on the jersey pictured in the original photo.

Velox photos ranged from the turn of the century through at least 1948 so that won't be helpful in figuring this out.

[Exhibitman]

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Negro%20Leagues/Image16.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Biz_Mackey.jpg

[Jaybird]

Can you get a sharper and larger scan of the hat on the man on the steps as well as the chest of the other man and the hat of the other man? I don't see Charleston, Mackey or Dihigo for what it's worth. But would be good to work on the clothing to put them in a time and place so you can begin the detective work. Is that an O on the hat of the man on the steps or just a stylized G? Can't tell from the photo posted.

[Exhibitman]

It is a G on the hat of the middle guy and an H on the hat of the guy on the left. I can see it clearly when the photo is in hand.

[Exhibitman]

As best as I can get it, and straightened to align the middle guy's head:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/large/NL%20snap%20cu.jpg

[ElCabron]

Not Charleston. Not Mackey. Not even close.

-Ryan

[Nashvol]

Looks like an 'O' on cap. Omaha Giants, early 1900 maybe?