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Bicem
10-13-2014, 02:11 PM
Which do you consider to be “the Wagner” of postcards? (excluding autographs and Negro League)

ullmandds
10-13-2014, 02:13 PM
Interesting supposition! I do not seek out postcards...but I look forward to hearing some responses.

philliesphan
10-13-2014, 02:19 PM
You'd perhaps get more responses if there were linked images for those of us who haven't seen all the examples referenced -- I can imagine 3-4 of them w/o a second thought, but not so much on the others

Bicem
10-13-2014, 02:20 PM
You'd perhaps get more responses if there were linked images for those of us who haven't seen all the examples referenced -- I can imagine 3-4 of them w/o a second thought, but not so much on the others

Make me work for it huh? Ok, images coming... :)

Sean1125
10-13-2014, 02:22 PM
Rose Co Chase :rolleyes:

calvindog
10-13-2014, 02:41 PM
Rose Co Chase :rolleyes:

Damn.

Bicem
10-13-2014, 02:43 PM
1907 Seamless Steel Tubes Ty Cobb
http://mar10.hugginsandscott.com/f10/19511_ty_cobb_postcard.jpg

1908 Rose Co. Ty Cobb
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/ItemImages/000123/123781a_lg.jpeg

1908 Rose Co. Honus Wagner
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/ItemImages/000126/130612a-copy_lg.jpeg

c1908 Greenville Joe Jackson
http://catalog.scpauctions.com/ItemImages/000010/1159-a_lg.jpeg

c1909 Weiser Wonder Walter Johnson
http://www.goodwinandco.com/ItemImages/000009/Lot15a_med.jpeg

1915 RPPC Boston Red Sox w/ Ruth
http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2013images/Item_24544_1.jpg

JeremyW
10-13-2014, 02:46 PM
Are you going for issued "sets" or do possibly unique RPPC count? I really like those early circa 1915-16 Ruths.

Econteachert205
10-13-2014, 02:47 PM
That steel tube cobb is an incredible image. Intimidation!

Bicem
10-13-2014, 02:50 PM
Are you going for issued "sets" or do possibly unique RPPC count? I really like those early circa 1915-16 Ruths.

Good question, was thinking sets or at least widely distributed, but whatever you feel qualifies.

JeremyW
10-13-2014, 02:57 PM
I don't know how widely distributed that Greenville Jackson postcard was, but that thing is amazing.

Jacklitsch
10-13-2014, 03:01 PM
My personal favorite is Joe D's 1903 PC of the New York Giants.

Unfortunately I couldn't find my scan.

ullmandds
10-13-2014, 03:05 PM
yes...that joe jackson postcard is amazing! i would surmise that most listed postcards are known to exist in numbers barely approaching double digits at best.

And that the "honus wagner" of postcards will vary from pc collector to pc collector depending on what they need.

Bicem
10-13-2014, 03:06 PM
That's a good one too Steve...

(not Joe's but another copy...)

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/ItemImages/000106/110674a_lg.jpeg

GregMitch34
10-13-2014, 03:08 PM
The Babe, Shonen.

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=164299&stc=1&d=1413234525

Bicem
10-13-2014, 03:11 PM
The Babe, Shonen.



No.

prewarsports
10-13-2014, 04:13 PM
I have long believed that Joe Jackson to be a fantasy piece and not authentic so not that one for sure!

ullmandds
10-13-2014, 04:20 PM
if the jj is not real I want my vote back!!!!

sb1
10-13-2014, 04:27 PM
I'll vote with an image of one of the candidates and another toughie

e107collector
10-13-2014, 04:51 PM
My vote:

This Joe Jackson postcard.

Tony

Bored5000
10-13-2014, 05:09 PM
I voted for the Ruth w/the Red Sox pstcard. It still kinda surprises me how "cheap" the 1912 Jim Thorpe postcards that predate his M101-5 are. I know they are not bigger than the Ruth postcard, but I think Thorpe at the 1912 Olympics is an iconic postcard.

CobbvLajoie1910
10-13-2014, 05:18 PM
I'll be in the minority, but a Bregstone Waddell, without hesitation, makes my top-5.

JeremyW
10-13-2014, 05:37 PM
if the jj is not real I want my vote back!!!!

I hear that. Wish it was a real photo postcard.

clydepepper
10-13-2014, 05:44 PM
Though I am very unfamiliar with this terrain, and probably influenced by my current reading choice, I had to go with 'The Weiser Wonder'!
(speaking of t-r-ains!)

Exhibitman
10-13-2014, 05:53 PM
Why exclude the Negro Leagues? I understand excluding an autographed item but not the NL.

FWIW, I'd most like to own a 1915 Ruth RPPC.

You forgot the Duke and the Man of Steel:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/large/1920s%20RPPC%20Kahanamoku_%20Duke.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/large/1957%20George%20Reeves%20Superman%20Advertising%20 PC.jpg

atx840
10-13-2014, 06:33 PM
Rose Co Chase :rolleyes:


I'd be happy just to see a high res scan. :(

steve B
10-13-2014, 06:37 PM
Maybe a bit outside the question in context, but this one paralells the Wagner in a few ways. Withdrawn from sale, probably due to poor printing quality, but the other story is that McKinleys widow didn't like it. Only one box of 500 was shipped by mistake, to a company that operated garbage barges for NYC, so an iffy link to 52Topps High numbers too. All were printed with an address and info for the tugboat operator to fill out. Unaddressed ones were actually specimens that got out. Not quite as expensive, but still pretty pricy for a plain postcard. (Sorry for the long link)

Steve B

https://www.siegelauctions.com/lot_grd.php?sale_no=&lot_no=&fastsale=on&sdate1=01%2F01%2F1930&sdate2=11%2F06%2F2014&lotclass=All&majgroup=United+States&cat_supgroup=U.S.+Stamps&subgroup=All&lot_catfk=All&catselect=eq&srtorder=UX17&pfoper=gt&pfgrade=&gandor=or&pseoper=gt&psegrade=&symbol%5B%5D=All&realized1=&realized2=&keyword=&recsperpage=10&sea_name=&pscolumn=default&sortord=DESC&calledfrom=lkp&sea_emailflag=on&pscolumn=default&sortord=DESC&calledfrom=lkp

CobbvLajoie1910
10-13-2014, 06:39 PM
Holy $hit, that Duke PC is awesome, Adam.

Thank you for sharing.

Jeffrompa
10-13-2014, 07:34 PM
But not my card

Bicem
10-13-2014, 07:48 PM
My vote:

This Joe Jackson postcard.

Tony

That's a great one too Tony! Interesting responses so far.

Bicem
10-13-2014, 07:49 PM
Why exclude the Negro Leagues?



selfish reasons, I don't collect them.

h2oya311
10-13-2014, 08:07 PM
Anyone have a scan of the 1908 Rose Company Tris Speaker? I've never seen one. That might top my list if you are only looking for ACC designated postcards.

Otherwise, I'd concur with the vote for the 1907 Team PC w/ Joe Jax!

chipperhank44
10-13-2014, 08:10 PM
For me there is nothing that even comes close to the seamless steel tubes Cobb (my personal holy grail), but the 1910 Sepia Cobb/Wagner is easily my #2 and worth mentioning in this discussion.

bobbvc
10-13-2014, 08:13 PM
For me there is nothing that even comes close to the seamless steel tubes Cobb (my personal holy grail), but the 1910 Sepia Cobb/Wagner is easily my #2 and worth mentioning in this discussion.

Or Novelty Cutlery Cobb- Wagner.

chipperhank44
10-13-2014, 08:19 PM
Or Novelty Cutlery Cobb- Wagner.

Yes! The image is amazing, both sets did it justice for sure!

Baseball Rarities
10-13-2014, 08:35 PM
Anyone have a scan of the 1908 Rose Company Tris Speaker? I've never seen one. That might top my list if you are only looking for ACC designated postcards.

Otherwise, I'd concur with the vote for the 1907 Team PC w/ Joe Jax!

Even though Tris Speaker has been on the checklist for years, I have never known anyone to have ever seen one. I believe that I have an image of every other HOFer except for him.

Then again, up until recently, I had only seen one Rose Walter Johnson in the last 25 year (Ron Mechine's, which seems to have mysteriously disappeared) and now two more have popped up in the last two months! Hopefully the same will happen with Speaker. :)

slidekellyslide
10-13-2014, 10:50 PM
I have long believed that Joe Jackson to be a fantasy piece and not authentic so not that one for sure!

?? It is postmarked from Greenville, SC in 1909...what makes you think this is a fantasy piece?

Ladder7
10-14-2014, 03:58 AM
Duke!

EvilKing00
10-14-2014, 05:22 AM
im not familiar with any post cards, but after looking at the scans, id take the Jackson. If its real - and not a FP

bcbgcbrcb
10-14-2014, 05:43 AM
Like the idea for this thread, Jeff. Here's an old favorite from my collection, wish I still had it (especially given what it sold for at auction a few years ago, could get 4X that amount today)............

bcbgcbrcb
10-14-2014, 05:46 AM
If I recall correctly, the Jackson postcard came from a newspaper/magazine clipping or baseball guide.

GregMitch34
10-14-2014, 06:24 AM
Hans Lobert.

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=164357&stc=1&d=1413289426

Bicem
10-14-2014, 07:43 AM
Hans Lobert.


No.

Leon
10-14-2014, 07:52 AM
No.

agree.....nice postcard but not in the top 1000 in the hobby, to me. This one is neat, I am biased, but probably too rare for it's own good and probably still wouldn't make the cut. It's pretty much the only MLB postcard I own as I don't collect them (you are welcome pc collectors).

http://luckeycards.com/ppcunc1912cobbwithbat2.jpg

calvindog
10-14-2014, 08:18 AM
I'm not a big fan of the Greenville Jackson as it looks like it was cut out of a newspaper; also I can't rank a RPPC as a top one as they're just too varied and don't have the history of a regular postcard. That being said I WISH there was such a thing as a Wagner-type PC, especially since I own two of the ones on the list.

As someone who owns many rare Cobb PCs, I think my favorite two (which encompasses looks and rarity) are the Rose PC and this one:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3015/3084954078_91616db3e7_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/5GBcnq)

ullmandds
10-14-2014, 08:49 AM
Jeff I love that one. I love cards that show players teeth!

FourStrikes
10-14-2014, 08:56 AM
.

terjung
10-14-2014, 09:24 AM
That Free Press PC of Cobb is beautiful, Jeff. Great image on that.

glenv
10-14-2014, 09:26 AM
I like the Pebble Beach Joe Di Maggio - like that it's signed (as all Pebble Beach PCs are). Picture from Old Cardboard website:

164368

Hankphenom
10-14-2014, 09:48 AM
Interesting, and great to see these wonderful postcards, but I don't get the analogy. IMO, there's not such thing as a "Wagner of postcards," since the circumstances of issue and collecting between T-206s and postcards are so different. To me it's like saying, "What's the Wagner of pennants, or pins, etc." There is no Wagner of those, or of postcards, either. But maybe this is just the contrarian in me.

calvindog
10-14-2014, 10:40 AM
Interesting, and great to see these wonderful postcards, but I don't get the analogy. IMO, there's not such thing as a "Wagner of postcards," since the circumstances of issue and collecting between T-206s and postcards are so different. To me it's like saying, "What's the Wagner of pennants, or pins, etc." There is no Wagner of those, or of postcards, either. But maybe this is just the contrarian in me.

I think the OP surely recognizes that but simply asks what is the holy grail of postcard collecting?

Econteachert205
10-14-2014, 11:16 AM
I think the OP surely recognizes that but simply asks what is the holy grail of postcard collecting?

Exactly, To say the Wagner is the holy grail of card collecting is equally as dubious given that the Wagner does not give eternal life, clearly exists and never appeared in an Indiana Jones Movie.

terjung
10-14-2014, 11:18 AM
Exactly, To say the Wagner is the holy grail of card collecting is equally as dubious given that the Wagner does not give eternal life, clearly exists and never appeared in an Indiana Jones Movie.

"I told him we already got one!"


FWIW, my vote would be for the Ruth team shot with Boston.

Exhibitman
10-14-2014, 11:20 AM
Yeah, those Pebble Beach cards are pretty wicked too. I've only seen one DiMaggio in person in 30+ years of collecting. I have seen two O'Douls, and got one for myself at the 2006 National in Anaheim:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/frankleftyodoulcard/websize/1935%20Pebble%20Beach%20OquDoul%202.jpg

Bicem
10-14-2014, 11:24 AM
Mona Lisa of postcards?

Plus, I had to reference t206 in some capacity to even get people to look at the thread.

benchod
10-14-2014, 03:34 PM
Meh
Great thread but I don't like the choices,
Any Rose pc: No! Big green with tiny head shot. fugly. Rather have a W600 with a better photo any day of the week
Any Joe Jackson: No! If he doesn't get banned he's basically George Sisler WITHOUT the 2 batting crowns
Ruth Redsox postcard: great card but a team shot. Unfortunately the Babe doesn't have great individual pc's like Cobb
Cobb probably has the best pc's and my grails are the Seamless Steel, The Detroit Free Press Cobb that Jeff showed, The Hubel Cobb which Jeff didn't show, the American League Publishing Cobb which Jeff didn't show, and your Underwood Matty. Could add the American League pub Wagner for good measure.

atx840
10-14-2014, 03:53 PM
Any Rose pc: No! Big green with tiny head shot. fugly.

The Prince thinks otherwise :cool:
not my card

http://i.imgur.com/SYyFEvP.jpg

Rickyy
10-14-2014, 03:53 PM
I'd love to have that 1911 Addie Joss Day All Star Line Up Post Card if I could ever afford it.

Ricky Y

ksfarmboy
10-14-2014, 04:21 PM
I think Jeff's HC Hubel Cobb is pretty high up there. I'll let Jeff post his copy if he chooses. This is my unlisted contribution.

calvindog
10-14-2014, 04:57 PM
The Prince thinks otherwise :cool:
not my card

http://i.imgur.com/SYyFEvP.jpg

Mercy

calvindog
10-14-2014, 05:00 PM
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3195/3019102393_a3ff2c0f8e_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/5AMFXx)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4080/5413072853_42697afb3d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/9fkpYi)

benchod
10-14-2014, 05:15 PM
Nice!!!

benchod
10-14-2014, 05:17 PM
What is on Ty's suit in the small oval pic?

Ladder7
10-14-2014, 06:19 PM
Duke is my first choice... Cobbzilla is a very close 2nd

ullmandds
10-14-2014, 07:01 PM
Well I think the answer is a cobb postcard! Personally I like the Detroit Free press or the hc hubel...Roses do nothing for me...even the chase!

FourStrikes
10-14-2014, 08:19 PM
the Hubel - & Leon's Cobb w/bat - are insanely cool - 35+ years chasing BB postcards and never seen either until now (as is the case w/ others, of course)...not to downplay the Duke (it's tough but NOT impossible!) as I've owned a few in the past 10 years - plus a RP of the identical view as well as one of the Olympic Thorpe PCs - good stuff nevertheless, same with the Pebble Beach's...however, I'd definitely put the Joss and Jackson (RP) near the top of any "Holy Grail" list, IMO.

bbpostcards
10-14-2014, 08:39 PM
For Cobb, the one below would get my vote because it's the only example, is probably the best real photo postcard of him in-action, and was snapped in 1911 during his historic .420 batting average season.

For Jackson, unless I'm forgetting something the one shown below is his rarest postcard from during his professional days.

And for Ruth, there's this unique postcard showing Ruth, Gehrig, and their young admirers during the Yankees important 1927 season.

Wagner's 1908 American League Publishing Co. postcard deserves consideration on the Wagner side of the ledger because so few have surfaced and it shows his T206 image.

For minor league collectors, there's the T210 Kelly mascot postcard.

For more, visit http://www.sportingoregon.com/

jcmtiger
10-14-2014, 08:57 PM
Lots of nice Cobb Postcards posted, this is the one I have. Never seen another.

Joe

pcoz
10-14-2014, 09:24 PM
My favorite is this 1915 RPPC Ruth. In the pre-stripes era Red Sox uniform, with rip knee to boot!

the 'stache
10-15-2014, 06:22 AM
I'm not an expert by any means (and I'm even less of an expert when it comes to post cards). But I really like the 1907-1909 Dietsche Tigers set. So, I'd pick the Cobb batting. My favorite from the set, though, is the William Coughlin.

calvindog
10-15-2014, 07:45 AM
What is on Ty's suit in the small oval pic?

I have a vague memory of reading in a Cobb bio that he had received some sort of foreign honor, i.e. with all the trappings of such including the bestowing of medals.

Mark
10-15-2014, 09:36 AM
But not my card

Wow. It looks like Honus just hit a bullet into an outfield gap. Great photo.

Exhibitman
10-15-2014, 11:16 AM
Like the Cobbzilla

Hankphenom
10-15-2014, 11:52 AM
I think the OP surely recognizes that but simply asks what is the holy grail of postcard collecting?

OK, but that's an entirely different question from the one asked. What's the point of asking to make an analogy if it's assumed one doesn't exist? Obviously, the answers are all to a different question, such as "What's the greatest PC?," or "What's your favorite PC?" or, as you put it, "What's the holy grail of PCs?" And that's fine, I sure like looking at all these great postcards. Don't mind me for pointing out a fallacy in the question, as I said that's just me nitpicking. Please continue on.

Bicem
10-15-2014, 01:37 PM
Confused... why can't there be a Wagner (most iconic, desirable, valuable, etc) in the postcard collecting world?

packs
10-15-2014, 01:47 PM
Well I think what he's saying is that the Wagner is a rarity because it was a scarcely manufactured card in a larger set that for the most part was manufactured in relatively equal numbers.

So for a true "Wagner" a postcard would need to be a set rarity if we're saying apples to apples.

Bicem
10-15-2014, 01:49 PM
ah gotcha, jeez so literal.

LincolnVT
10-15-2014, 02:12 PM
I guess this is one of my favorite cards...and yes, I voted for it.

Hankphenom
10-15-2014, 04:11 PM
ah gotcha, jeez so literal.

Well, the way I see it, if you ask for an answer and it doesn't exist, then you're going to get something else. When you say "The Wagner" of something, you're talking about the most iconic, of course, and I think everyone here would agree there is no one iconic PC a la the Wagner in cards. So what, then, are people voting for and putting forth candidates for? The rarest, coolest, favorite, etc, postcard? I honestly don't know, and that's what I was wondering about. But, as I said before, don't stop the fun!

Hankphenom
10-15-2014, 04:22 PM
One last thing, and I hope this explains what I'm trying to say. When I looked at the list, and thought about voting, I was confused about what I would be voting for. I suspect most people are voting for their favorite among the group, and that's entirely different from choosing "a Wagner." That's all.

Bicem
10-15-2014, 04:44 PM
Well my intent was to find out IF there was a particular postcard that a majority (or at least a lot) of the general collecting public (represented by net54 members) sees as the most iconic, similar to that of the t206 Wagner in the normal card world, even if not to that same extent.

I didn't want to assume that there was no postcard that stood out as being the most iconic without at least asking the question. That was the original point of the thread, and not really to find out people's personal favorites or coolest or most valuable, etc, although I enjoy hearing those results too.

Hankphenom
10-15-2014, 05:18 PM
I'm really not trying to be contentious here, but this would seem to fall into the category of "If you have to ask..." Whatever people are responding to, though, keep the great postcards coming!

T206Jim
10-15-2014, 05:27 PM
I don't know that there is one definitive postcard, although as a group the Rose Company postcards may be the most iconic.

Is there a definitive book or guide to baseball postcards?

chipperhank44
10-15-2014, 05:44 PM
I'm really not trying to be contentious here, but this would seem to fall into the category of "If you have to ask..."

If there were multiple past threads debating the most iconic postcard that all ended with no clear censensus, your point might be well taken. However, I'm not aware of the conversation ever taking place, so you can't really say "If you have to ask..." about something that hasn't really been asked.

Note: If there are in fact many other threads debating this that I am unaware of, please move on to the next post.

Bicem
10-15-2014, 05:54 PM
I'm really not trying to be contentious here, but this would seem to fall into the category of "If you have to ask..."

Ha, true, but then again makes for good discussion none the less. Can only take so many t206 threads.

LincolnVT
10-15-2014, 06:11 PM
As folks know, some of these postcards are available in REA's current auction. So value shouldn't be a factor as the results will speak for themselves. I see rarity as key for me. That is what draws me to the 1915 RPPC with Ruth. Rare and early Ruth.

Hankphenom
10-15-2014, 06:25 PM
Ha, true, but then again makes for good discussion none the less. Can only take so many t206 threads.

And great postcards, which I love for their variety and uniqueness. Let's see some more out of these wonderful collections, fellas!

ullmandds
10-15-2014, 06:34 PM
Well I think what he's saying is that the Wagner is a rarity because it was a scarcely manufactured card in a larger set that for the most part was manufactured in relatively equal numbers.

So for a true "Wagner" a postcard would need to be a set rarity if we're saying apples to apples.

If this is the criteria...then this be the Honus Wagner of postcard collecting!:)

Exhibitman
10-16-2014, 08:42 AM
One of more interesting aspects of PC collecting to me is that they were so prevalent in documenting the amateur, semi-pro, Negro League, and minor league parts of baseball, and so much else in American culture and sport. The images can be quite compelling:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/websize/1910s%20RPPC%20baseball%20batter.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous3/2012%2004%2005%20Lipset%201.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/large/1913%20RPPC%20Rodeo%20Hoot%20Gibson.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneouscards/Battle%20Royal%201.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneouscards/websize/PC%20Sammy%20Davis%20Jr.jpg

h2oya311
10-16-2014, 11:30 AM
I agree with others that one of the Cobb PCs would be the logical choice for the most "iconic" postcard. Unfortunately, I don't think there is one that every postcard collector simply "must have". I love postcards, and I especially love postcards depicting minor league players before they became HOF icons. Here are a few of mine, but I wouldn't consider any of these the "holy grail" of PC collecting (although I am mighty fond of the Campy):

> 1909 Dave Bancroft w/ Superior
> 1943 Roy Campanella w/ Monterrey
> 1943 Ray Dandridge w/ Veracruz
> 1914 Spokane Team w/ George Kelly & Stan Coveleski
> 1908 Little Rock Travelers Team w/ Tris Speaker
> 1909 KC Red Sox Team w/ Casey Stengel
> 1937 San Diego Padres Team w/ Ted Williams
> 1922 Martinsburg Blue Sox Team w/ Hack Wilson
> 1907 St. Mary's College w/ Harry Hooper and Hal Chase

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1909%20Bancroft_1.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1943%20Campanella.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/c1943%20Dandridge.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1914%20Kelly31.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1908%20Travelers.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1909%20Stengel31.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1937%20Williams_131.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1922%20Wilson31.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1907%20Hooper.jpg

I also like these two:

> 1915 Denison Railroaders Team w/ Rogers Hornsby
> c1905 Ty Cobb w/ George Parquette (guess which one is Cobb)

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/IMG_0001331.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1905%20Cobb_1.jpg

I also have minor league team PC's of B. McKechnie, S. Coveleski, G. Weiss, and D. Vance, among others. But the most iconic of them all you ask? Well obvioulsy, it's got to be the c1940 RPPC of the future president of the National League and HOF executive, Warren Giles:

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1940s%20Giles.jpg

h2oya311
10-16-2014, 11:42 AM
excluding 1920's-40's negro league postcards and the 1907 Team PC w/ Joe Jackson, the two that I would like most to add to my collection are the following:

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/wantlist/websize/Aaron%20-%201952.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/wantlist/websize/Johnson%20-%201907%20Weiser%20PC.jpg

baseballart
10-16-2014, 11:50 AM
I love any and all postcard threads. Now if someone had a rppc of Ten Million by himself, that would be something.

calvindog
10-16-2014, 11:57 AM
I agree with others that one of the Cobb PCs would be the logical choice for the most "iconic" postcard. Unfortunately, I don't think there is one that every postcard collector simply "must have". I love postcards, and I especially love postcards depicting minor league players before they became HOF icons. Here are a few of mine, but I wouldn't consider any of these the "holy grail" of PC collecting (although I am mighty fond of the Campy):

> 1909 Dave Bancroft w/ Superior
> 1943 Roy Campanella w/ Monterrey
> 1943 Ray Dandridge w/ Veracruz
> 1914 Spokane Team w/ George Kelly & Stan Coveleski
> 1908 Little Rock Travelers Team w/ Tris Speaker
> 1909 KC Red Sox Team w/ Casey Stengel
> 1937 San Diego Padres Team w/ Ted Williams
> 1922 Martinsburg Blue Sox Team w/ Hack Wilson
> 1907 St. Mary's College w/ Harry Hooper and Hal Chase



That Campanella PC is spectacular.

h2oya311
10-16-2014, 12:10 PM
That Campanella PC is spectacular.

Thanks Jeff - that means a lot coming from you and your incredible collection!

baseballart
10-16-2014, 12:52 PM
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4080/5413072853_42697afb3d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/9fkpYi)

The Hubel is my favorite. Iconic of both Cobb and Detroit. I seem to recall a couple of other players in the series. Jeff, am I correct in my recollection?

Max

seattlerainiers
10-16-2014, 01:24 PM
...as usual.

h2oya311
10-16-2014, 01:41 PM
awesome 10! That is fantastic!

baseballart
10-16-2014, 02:40 PM
awesome 10! That is fantastic!

That pc is certainly the Honus Wagner of minor league postcards, in my view.

calvindog
10-16-2014, 04:50 PM
The Hubel is my favorite. Iconic of both Cobb and Detroit. I seem to recall a couple of other players in the series. Jeff, am I correct in my recollection?

Max

Yes: Cobb, Donovan, Willettt, Ralph Works: http://imageevent.com/bicem/hubel;jsessionid=79hxqd3ru2.camel_s

joshleland
10-17-2014, 04:43 PM
Wouldn't the Honus Wagner of Postcards be a Rose Greenfield's?
Makes sense

rhettyeakley
10-22-2014, 09:53 AM
All are good options. I have a hard time voting for a team card for top honors but that is just personal preference.

Another one that comes to my mind is the Rose Co. Archibald "Moonlight" Graham PC...
http://starsofthediamond.com/graham.jpg

I know he wasn't the ballplayer that many on this list were but since watching the reading the book and watching the movie "Field of Dreams" I have wanted to own a Moonlight Graham card and this is his only individual item (he was previously known on team cabinets and team postcards.)

Kingcobb
10-22-2014, 01:05 PM
The 1903 N.Y. Giants Falk Studio is my pick. Any ideal what this would go for at auction.

Bicem
10-22-2014, 03:36 PM
The 1903 N.Y. Giants Falk Studio is my pick. Any ideal what this would go for at auction.

Great card! Went for $8400 in 2010.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=106976

bcbgcbrcb
10-22-2014, 04:33 PM
Daryl:

I would guess somewhere around $3K - $5K.

Bicem
10-22-2014, 05:01 PM
Think you're low Phil. Will pay more than 5k if anyone out there has one for sale.

Greenmonster
10-22-2014, 05:11 PM
The 1903 N.Y. Giants Falk Studio is my pick.

Agree......incredible card.

1915 Red Sox w/ Ruth is a close second.

sporteq
10-23-2014, 12:31 AM
Since the 1915 Bo Sox with Ruth Rookie was included.. Why not throw in the EPIC 1911 Addie Joss Day Benefit Game PC

Albert

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/ItemImages/000013/0383_med.jpeg

Bicem
10-23-2014, 07:18 AM
Addie Joss Day is a good choice too, forgot about it. Very nice card, is that yours?

sporteq
10-25-2014, 12:03 PM
Addie Joss Day is a good choice too, forgot about it. Very nice card, is that yours?


No, not mine unfortunately :rolleyes:


Albert

sayhey24
10-28-2014, 06:48 AM
The Ty Cobb Hubel in front of the building is still my favorite. Here is the only Cobb postcard I own -- I don't think it's been shown yet.

Greg
www.baseballbasement.com