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Brian Van Horn
09-20-2014, 11:43 AM
Yuck.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shoeless-Joe-Jackson-Sketchcard-Rookie-Card-1911-1-1-/321529141195?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item4adca157cb

Matvoo
09-20-2014, 11:48 AM
He has weird pairing what is this loooks like karate instead of baseball
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ty-Cobb-Play-At-The-Plate-Sketchcard-1-1-Dead-Ball-Tigers-/221549545107?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item339561c693

Brian Van Horn
09-20-2014, 11:51 AM
Matthew,

Thank you. I just looked at his artwork under his other listings.

I think I will now go out to Andy Warhol's grave and let him know there is someone else's work who I think less of than his.

marvymelvin
09-20-2014, 11:52 AM
Is this guy like 5 years old? Maybe an early "Kreindler"?

pawpawdiv9
09-20-2014, 01:26 PM
Matthew,

Thank you. I just looked at his artwork under his other listings.

I think I will now go out to Andy Warhol's grave and let him know there is someone else's work who I think less of than his.

Talking about Warhol--- look at this auction for the 1976 original sketch of the Campbell's soup can
http://www.iconicauctions.com/Andy_Warhol_Vintage_1976_Campbells_Soup_Original_S-LOT37401.aspx
http://www.iconicauctions.com/ItemImages/000037/914015083_med.jpeg

howard38
09-20-2014, 03:15 PM
He has weird pairing what is this loooks like karate instead of baseball
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ty-Cobb-Play-At-The-Plate-Sketchcard-1-1-Dead-Ball-Tigers-/221549545107?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item339561c693

Just painting what he sees.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/21623829/just-because-ty-cobb-goes-in-high-and-hard

jcmtiger
09-20-2014, 03:42 PM
Don't you guys like Picasso ? Sp?

Joe

ksabet
09-20-2014, 03:58 PM
I don't see anything wrong with it. He's not asking a ton of money, It is probably something he just enjoys. His feedback says he has sold a bunch of them so no harm done right?

Tao_Moko
09-20-2014, 04:18 PM
I'm sure that a contemporary artist gives two poops about critiques from basbeball card nerds. His work reminds me of kid book illustrations from the '70's.

drcy
09-20-2014, 05:02 PM
Encapsulating a book in a hermetically sealed holder to sell to the highest bidder is so Warholian.

steve B
09-21-2014, 07:33 PM
Don't you guys like Picasso ? Sp?

Joe

Actually, no. Don't care for his stuff at all. He was a very good artist in his teens and earlier, then he started painting stuff like "flounder woman in blue with rectangle eyes" I just don't get it.

The art cards the guy is selling aren't really all that bad, they have a bit of a feel to them, that's hard to do. Of course, they aren't particularly great either.

Steve B

drcy
09-21-2014, 08:08 PM
Picasso said he wasn't always trying to make a work that was beautiful-- his focus was sometimes on other qualities and things--, and the expected usual commentaries about the work's beauty, or lack thereof, missed the point.

Many of his cubist works were trying to depict three dimensions in a two dimensional plane-- an aesthetic and philosophical dilemma that, really, exists in all two dimensional artworks, as three dimensions in a two dimensional plane is by definition an impossibility. Some of his cubist works tried to depict the passage of time in a still image-- another interesting and unsolvable aesthetics problem that exists in all still art, even so-called realistic art.

I don't like Picasso on the 'pretty' level and wouldn't hang one on my wall, but his works bring up significant philosophic, aesthetic and cognitive science questions. All human perceptions and representations of reality are limited and distorted and filled with paradoxes, and his is just a different representation from a different informational angle. So called 'realistic' art is filled with smoke and mirrors, tricks and visual illusions.

If one looks at a Picasso work as a philosophic thing, the question of "Is it beautiful or not?" becomes "Is whether or not it's beautiful a relevant question?" Many artworks are trying to express something other than beauty. Clearly, Munch's Scream is trying express something other than beauty-- and most would say it doesn't a good job at it.

In short, I don't critique art, I critique art criticisms.

steve B
09-22-2014, 07:56 AM
Interesting. I never considered it that way.

I had a choice between art school and drafting school. The drafting school made me the better deal. Plus I doubt I'd have been a really good artist even with training.

Many of the artists I like were certainly more realistic, even the ones with less than realistic subject matter. (Bosch, Escher, Dali...)

From the drafting pint of view, expressing 3d in 2d by putting for instance both eyes left of the nose just doesn't work unless the figure is shown as clear. I suppose that's the sort of thing that's always bugged me with Picasso.

Some of the stuff I didn't have much liking for became much more likeable when seen up close. Impressionists, some modern art like Pollok all are impressive in person, much less so in photos. Picasso still did nothing for me seen up close.

Maybe I'll have a go at looking at some online and trying to view it from a philosophical point.

Steve B

Batjac1
09-22-2014, 03:46 PM
I was thinking more like....

Oops, sorry...

Hudson River School fan myself...