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swarmee
08-24-2014, 06:27 AM
Noticed that the 1928 Fro-Joy Babe Ruth set is now in the "(No Longer Grade)" category by PSA along with the 1928 G. Ruth Candy Co. card set. Who does grade these cards, and why would PSA stop? Too many fakes that they can't accurately tell apart?

Which set that you collect/collected do TPG services no longer touch with a 10-foot-pole?

swarmee
08-24-2014, 06:42 AM
After using the PSA search engine, here are some other sets they don't grade:
1973 Mattel Instant Replay Records (N9 -No Longer Grade) - boxers
1977 HRT/RES - Looks like a set that reprinted old Bowmans
1967 Starliner Decal - Baseball
1992 Pro File National - Baseball from the National Convention

None of these have many graded examples, and none seem to have the cachet of either Babe Ruth set. They seem like outliers.

glynparson
08-24-2014, 06:44 AM
but PSA also does not grade anymore : Football Exhibits, Exhibits Champions 1948, 1982 TCMA Elway Minor League card, Star Basketball, Legends Magazine cards, "Broders", I know there are more these just popped into my head. I also know there was a time SGC did not grade redman indians I do not know if that policy is still in effect or not.

Batter67up
08-24-2014, 11:21 AM
BVG grades Fro-Joys. I believe PSA stopped grading Fro-Joys for a couple of reasons: they had let a lot of bad ones slip through because of their lack of experience on these cards and secondly they probably were receiving 90% bad ones for grading and this would upset customers when they spent money for grading and the cards would come back fake. I have the whole set graded 1(PSA) and (5) BVG. If you have a real one and a fake in your hands it is easy to identify the fakes from the real ones IMO.

jerrys
08-24-2014, 04:09 PM
157854

ullmandds
08-24-2014, 04:14 PM
jerry...is that one real?

jerrys
08-24-2014, 04:42 PM
My understanding is that 1928 Flo-joy cards were not made in color.

swarmee
08-24-2014, 04:48 PM
My understanding is that 1928 Flo-joy cards were not made in color.
I just got an uncut sheet on eBay. Probably not authentic, but the seller is giving a full refund if it's not real. So I figure it's worth learning about the set, in case I got a steal.

jerrys
08-25-2014, 07:32 AM
Uncut color Flo-Joy sheets are real 1970s reprints. What's to learn? A steal is more than likely in the opposite direction.

Exhibitman
08-25-2014, 11:01 AM
PSA also won't grade exhibit boxing cards. Too bad; some of the boxer registry listings are laughably incomplete.

swarmee
08-25-2014, 02:50 PM
Uncut color Flo-Joy sheets are real 1970s reprints. What's to learn? A steal is more than likely in the opposite direction.

The one I purchased is black and white. I will take it to an appraiser or card store nearby to see if they've had any come through before.

ullmandds
08-25-2014, 02:54 PM
Uncut color Flo-Joy sheets are real 1970s reprints. What's to learn? A steal is more than likely in the opposite direction.

there are numerous types of fro joy fakes...some colored...some not. i was duped while in college in late 80's into buying a fake non color sheet. the color of the stock is usually pretty obvious giveaway. the real ones are a creamy ivory...more white...whereas the fakes look yellower...artificially aged.

glynparson
08-25-2014, 03:37 PM
Unseen. You have about as much chance of buying a used lottery ticket that's a winner. It's not something to waste your time on with the overwhelming number of counterfeits of this particular issue.

Bicem
08-25-2014, 06:15 PM
Baseball Exhibits next? Are boxing and football just too easily reprinted?

GregMitch34
08-25-2014, 07:16 PM
Would you buy a Babe Ruth Candy Co. card at going rate? I've almost done so recently and both times I dropped out early due to the "fake" stigma. You?