Net54baseball Pre-War Set Group Break - Set to be Decided?

[Leon]

Hey Guys and Girls
Nick and I spoke about the potential for a group break and given the responses from the other thread think we want to go ahead and try it at least once :). Nick is on board for doing it exactly the way it was laid out in the other thread. I will purchase a set or a partial set of Pre-War cards. That group should have 50-200 cards to make it viable and to not have too many spots to fill. He agrees that we should mark it up 10% (my proceeds will go to a North Texas Animal cause). Then there will be a $1 per card expense for expenses(packaging??) PLUS the actual shipping charge (and we will probably round up so Nick doesn't get stuck holding the bag). Cards over a certain amount will get insurance. If a lower end card gets lost I will cover it. We don't think the partial/set should be too expensive or folks won't be able to afford it. We are thinking somewhere in the 2500-4000 budget range for the group. After the set/group is acquired and Nick has them he will be doing all of the organizing and so forth. We are considering different ways of doing the break too, with Rich K's idea a possibility. Of course there will be 100% transparency in everything we do.Once we have this discussion for a day or two I will be on the lookout for the first set to do. Let's have some fun with it.
Thoughts on a set or thoughts in general??

[chahn1980]

I'm in. T205 or 1921 Exhibit would be my vote. Problem is one is probably too much and the other not enough. Pretty much no matter what the set I will be in.

[bn2cardz]

1951 Bowman with a chance at Mays and Mantle rookies, but the set may be too big
1952 Bowman would also be interesting and is just slightly bigger than your max size.

[Sean1125]

1941 Play Ball?

I think the forum should have a vote on what they would pay for a slot and figure out a set after that.

If the consensus decides a $20 break or $50 break you will have an approx price range for the set and can easily pick one in a mid-grade range after that.

I am happy to help where ever I can.

[bobbyw8469]

My vote is for the 1955 Topps. Good set with some good rookies (Clemente, Koufax, Killebrew), as well as some good 2nd year cards of Kaline, Aaron, and Banks, and fading stars like Jackie Robinson and Ted Williams.

[Matvoo]

T206 Southern League Set
Not sure how much that cost though

[Luke]

1941 play ball sounds good to me.

[hangman62]

1940 Play Ball..sounds good to me

[dog*dirt]

Diamond Stars, 108 cards, falls in the price range stated and some nice HOFers just no Gehrig or Ruth which keeps cost low.

[brewing]

A 1954 Topps set went unsold with a $1600 opening bid in yesterday's Sterling auction.

That would have allowed each participant in for about $10. 3 HoF rookie cards and 2 Ted Williams and Willie Mays provide some meat.

[Conner161822]

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[Rich Klein]

We'd be honored to host the break, it's a public place and full transparency and could even be exciting if you are there :)

[bobbyw8469]

A 1954 Topps set went unsold with a $1600 opening bid in yesterday's Sterling auction.

That would have allowed each participant in for about $10. 3 HoF rookie cards and 2 Ted Williams and Willie Mays provide some meat.

+1...don't forget Jackie Robinson!

[rhettyeakley]

Pretty Cool Idea, some ideas given the overall price point above (depending on the # of entries)...

1939, 40, 41 Play Ball
W517
1921, 22, 27, or 28 Exhibit Supply Co.
Kashin (R316)
W514
Polo Grounds, National Game or Tom Barker Games

[sbfinley]

1941 play ball sounds good to me.

I like this one. I think it's the best for test run: smaller issue, numerous Hall of Famers. Cost and availability are fairly reasonable.

T206 Southern League Set
Not sure how much that cost though

No real home runs here. I'd rather just buy the SL'er I wanted or needed.

A 1954 Topps set went unsold with a $1600 opening bid in yesterday's Sterling auction.

That would have allowed each participant in for about $10. 3 HoF rookie cards and 2 Ted Williams and Willie Mays provide some meat.

I'd like this. Those three HoF RC's are big. If Mick was in 54 or 55 either of those would be no-brainers.

[VoodooChild]

I'm in no matter what set is decided. I do agree with others that '41 Playball and '21 Exhibits would be perfect for the first test run. I'd be fine with '54 or '55 Topps too, but this is really a Pre-war forum so I think the first one should be a Pre-war set.

[jbsports33]

Would be a good idea to test the break with a lower end set first and see how it goes - great idea!

Jimmy

[kailes2872]

My vote is for the 1955 Topps. Good set with some good rookies (Clemente, Koufax, Killebrew), as well as some good 2nd year cards of Kaline, Aaron, and Banks, and fading stars like Jackie Robinson and Ted Williams.

I would like 55 or 54 but I think the big Rookies should be grade 5/6/7.

The $1600 54 set that Sterling had seemed pretty rough from what I read in the description. I am in the minority, but those are 2 of the 3 on my to do list. If I win the Clemente/Koufax/Banks/Aaron I am hoping to not have to upgrade.

Of course, when the drawing happens and I win low number commons, I can open this up and laugh at the idea of me fretting that the big dollar cards wouldn't be graded high enough...

[Mountaineer1999]

Just going over some of the sets mentioned here, 41 Play Ball looks like a winner to me. I'll be in no matter which set is used but the 21% chance of getting a HOF'er is a nice incentive.
Pencil me in at slot 71 :)

[Sean]

My vote is for the 1955 Topps. Good set with some good rookies (Clemente, Koufax, Killebrew), as well as some good 2nd year cards of Kaline, Aaron, and Banks, and fading stars like Jackie Robinson and Ted Williams.

Great idea. I would like the T206 set, but a subset will be much more manageable.

[wolf441]

41 Playball or T201 seem like good places to start.

[irishdenny]

Waiting Patiently...

"Great for the Hobby Guyz!"

[clydepepper]

Great Idea!

After reading the previous post, it appears that either T206 or 1941 Play Ball are the most requested and I would be happy with either.

[Wite3]

'41 Play Ball would be nice...easier to find a set and a nice selection of cards.

Kashin might be fun but finding a complete set might be problematic.

I am all for T205s but it might hurt to watch a set be broken.

If we are talking post-war...might be fun to do 1954 or 1955 Topps or combine both 1953 Bowman sets together.

Joshua

[vintagehofrookies]

I agree w/ Rhett on the Kashin (R316) + Polo Grounds, National Game or Tom Barker Games. I'd also be in on any 1920's Exhibit sets (1921,1922,1923-24,1925,1926,1927,1928,1929 4-in-1)

[Luke]

I think game cards would be cool as well

[brianp-beme]

Some great suggestions for complete sets (I like 1941 Play Ball, Diamond Stars, Tom Barker or National Game and T201).

However Leon also mentioned partial sets in his original post. I think this idea would have the best kickoff (we all know Net54'ers are 'partial' to this issue) if a larger lot of T206 cards (perhaps 100-200) were chosen...maybe a group consisting of a variety of Hall of Famers, different backs, Southern Leaguers, etc.

Brian

[Leon]

Some great suggestions for complete sets (I like 1941 Play Ball, Diamond Stars, Tom Barker or National Game and T201).

However Leon also mentioned partial sets in his original post. I think this idea would have the best kickoff (we all know Net54'ers are 'partial' to this issue) if a larger lot of T206 cards (perhaps 100-200) were chosen...maybe a group consisting of a variety of Hall of Famers, different backs, Southern Leaguers, etc.

Brian

I have actually been thinking of this for the last several hours......great suggestions by all, so far.

[Luke]

Some great suggestions for complete sets (I like 1941 Play Ball, Diamond Stars, Tom Barker or National Game and T201).

However Leon also mentioned partial sets in his original post. I think this idea would have the best kickoff (we all know Net54'ers are 'partial' to this issue) if a larger lot of T206 cards (perhaps 100-200) were chosen...maybe a group consisting of a variety of Hall of Famers, different backs, Southern Leaguers, etc.

Brian

Yeah, I suppose there's no reason to get a complete set when we're just going to break it up. This seems like the best idea since T206s are about all we talk about here :D

[arott23]

This sounds like an awesome idea. I have no suggestions at the moment, but would be interested in anything really.

[cockrellcollection]

Yeah, I suppose there's no reason to get a complete set when we're just going to break it up. This seems like the best idea since T206s are about all we talk about here :D

I like avoiding the heartbreak of breaking off parts of a complete set, especially when it comes to pre-war stuff.

That said, if it were a 50's Topps set (I like the '54 idea) for some reason the complete set break doesn't bother me as much. I'm very interested either way.

[Nappy1525]

'41 Play Ball would be nice...easier to find a set and a nice selection of cards.

Kashin might be fun but finding a complete set might be problematic.

I am all for T205s but it might hurt to watch a set be broken.


Joshua

Gotta love those t205s. I'm all in for that

[batkidiii]

Sounds like fun. Count me in!

[canjond]

T3 :-)

[DeafSports]

Why don't we have SGC to be part of this so they can add "Annual N54-Group Break Set" on the slab and that something I will keep it annually and knowing all of us are carrying a set together.

I like the idea of 100-200 cards set. Anywhere from 30s 40s would be perfect.

We should stay Pre-war era.

Cant wait!!

Best,
Danny

[Texxxx]

I don't see why it has to be just one set. Why not make it a bunch of cards from different sets. That way everyone has a chance of possibly getting one they want. OJ's all the way through 50's.

[ZenPop]

Why don't we have SGC to be part of this so they can add "Annual N54-Group Break Set" on the slab and that something I will keep it annually and knowing all of us are carrying a set together.

I kinda like this idea...

I'd LOVE to be part of this...

My picks (reasonable prices and brilliantly designed sets):

Topps '54, '55, '56
Bowman '50, '51, '52
Playball '41

[Jeffrompa]

What about the 12 T205 Minors leaguers to start ?

[refz]

Any thoughts on a near or partial E120 set for the break? Personally I would like to keep the break pre war.

[toledo_mudhen]

Another vote for 55 Topps

[ullmandds]

pre war!

[Mountaineer]

Sorry I haven't been around much (been studying for my mcat), but I vote for either a certain group of t206's (so I can get my first one, lol) or 48 Bowman (due to the fact that it is a smaller set and has a good amount of HOF'er RC's in it)..

[bobbyw8469]

A smaller set WILL NOT be good because you have more demand than supply. The 1948 Bowman set has less than 50 cards. A lot of members wanting to participate will be left out in the cold.

[Mountaineer]

A smaller set WILL NOT be good because you have more demand than supply. The 1948 Bowman set has less than 50 cards. A lot of members wanting to participate will be left out in the cold.

Understood. I didn't know the demand would be that much. In that case, t206 would be a good one for pre-war.

[wolf441]

I think the original idea of the 1955 Topps works best. Anything pre-war is going to either be too small a set or take too long to acquire. I think pre-war is a great idea down the line, but if we want to do something in the next month, I think is has to be a set that can be picked up fairly quickly.

[iowadoc77]

Great idea. Definitely want to be part of this! Being a relative newbie to prewar collecting, I will yield to the experts, but I love 1941 playball. Put me down for the DiMaggio... Haha I mean the number corresponding to the randomization that leads to DiMaggio.

[sebie43]

'41 playball sounds good. Also like the idea of T cards T201,05,06.. either way it is interesting. Great idea

[autocentral]

Thanks for all the input. Keep it coming.

Thanks,
-Nick

[varsitycollectibles]

I'm definitely interested in this type of group break. However, I am curious how condition of cards will be addressed. If it is a draft pick style break, will we have scans of cards to help us pick?

[autocentral]

I'm definitely interested in this type of group break. However, I am curious how condition of cards will be addressed. If it is a draft pick style break, will we have scans of cards to help us pick?

As of now it will not be a draft break. It will be a standard random break. I'm open for any suggestions but I feel like random breaks would definitely work better for this type of break than draft style break.

-Nick

[Nappy1525]

Do you have a time frame on when this would start?

[Leon]

Do you have a time frame on when this would start?

I am currently on the lookout for a suitable grouping/set or lot(s). I am looking at pre-war baseball more than anything else. Once a set/group is acquired I will send it to Nick and off and away the game goes. I would expect 2-3 weeks, but it could be longer or shorter, as I want to make sure I get a good deal on whatever it is so our members can have some value in what they are doing. Still quite open to what cards it will be but I think some HOF'ers are a must and preferably pre-war since that is what this board is known for.

[autocentral]

Do you have a time frame on when this would start?

No time frame yet. But likely the end of the month. We will definitely keep everyone posted.

-Nick

[Leon]

No time frame yet. But likely the end of the month. We will definitely keep everyone posted.

-Nick

We posted at the same time.....at least we are on the same page... :)

[Econteachert205]

i'm with those who said 41 play ball as a good choice. Honestly though price matters to me more than type of set, 55 topps would be a great lottery at the right price.

[HalChaseCollector]

t205
or
1963 topps set

I like the idea of doing any set!

[brianp-beme]

I don't see why it has to be just one set. Why not make it a bunch of cards from different sets. That way everyone has a chance of possibly getting one they want. OJ's all the way through 50's.

I like this idea too...perhaps a larger, jambalaya lot that you occasionally see from an auction company that consists of multiple cards from 3 to 8 or so different vintage sets. This lot would ideally have some star power to pull in even more participants.

Brian

[darkhorse9]

Having never participated in one of these I'm very interested, particularly if we choose 1941 Play Ball.

My only question is, will we be limiting people to just one chance in order to get 72 different people involved? If a wealthy dealer decides he was to pony in for 25 places then that shuts out a lot of product and people who want to join.

[Leon]

Having never participated in one of these I'm very interested, particularly if we choose 1941 Play Ball.

My only question is, will we be limiting people to just one chance in order to get 72 different people involved? If a wealthy dealer decides he was to pony in for 25 places then that shuts out a lot of product and people who want to join.

All options for a group or set are on the table. My goal will be to get something with good value and that our members collect. I don't think there has been a bad suggestion yet. I probably want to stay with pre-war but that is not a definite. As for how many places each person will be allowed to buy, my idea is to let everyone buy one, then the leftovers can be doled out after that. Everyone should get a chance before members are allowed to buy more. My bigger concern is getting a group and not selling enough, leaving me with quite a few spots. At the end of it, if there are leftovers then I have no choice but to have them, since I will be footing the bill. The goal will be to sell every one to members and not have any leftover .

[gregr2]

I'm definitely in for one and depending on the price (and if there are leftovers) possibly more than one.

[wolf441]

All options for a group or set are on the table. My goal will be to get something with good value and that our members collect. I don't think there has been a bad suggestion yet. I probably want to stay with pre-war but that is not a definite. As for how many places each person will be allowed to buy, my idea is to let everyone buy one, then the leftovers can be doled out after that. Everyone should get a chance before members are allowed to buy more. My bigger concern is getting a group and not selling enough, leaving me with quite a few spots. At the end of it, if there are leftovers then I have no choice but to have them, since I will be footing the bill. The goal will be to sell every one to members and not have any leftover .

I think that's a great idea Leon and I don't think you will be stuck with unsold slots. Perhaps give everyone a deadline to purchase one slot and then leave enough time after that for folks to buy as many additional slots as they like. If the price point is around $25-30/slot, I can see multiple members purchasing 4-5 slots each. If you are going with pre-war, I would suggest tying to keep the buy-in price to $30 or less, at least for this first go-'round. Once everyone gets a feel for the concept, I think people will be willing to put up more $$ per slot...

Just my 2 cents...

[Leon]

I think that's a great idea Leon and I don't think you will be stuck with unsold slots. Perhaps give everyone a deadline to purchase one slot and then leave enough time after that for folks to buy as many additional slots as they like. If the price point is around $25-30/slot, I can see multiple members purchasing 4-5 slots each.

Yeap, 20-30 each is the price point I am targeting. I am sure Nick will have some rules about buying them and I will leave that to him. I will happily give some guidance if he needs or wants any, but you guys get the idea. This is about having fun and someone(s) getting some nice cards for the money. This won't be exactly like gambling as everyone who plays will get a card. How much it's worth is the surprise part, of course.

[HalChaseCollector]

I can't wait for this! Sorry if this has been asked earlier but when will the set be decided?

[Orioles1954]

Leon,

I really like the idea of a "shoebox draft" where there are cards from tons of different sets. At H&S those are our most popular lots and I think it would draw more interest, particularly for those who are not enamored with a T205, 1955 Topps, 1941 Play Ball set (for example).

[autocentral]

I can't wait for this! Sorry if this has been asked earlier but when will the set be decided?

My guess is the set will be decided in about a week or two. We are still interested in hearing everyone's suggestions.

-Nick

[Section103]

Love the idea and love the fact that Leon is donating money towards his cause. Great stuff.

[nebboy]

Love the shoe box idea!!!!!!!!

It could lead to Ts, Ws, Rs, Ds, Ms, minor league cards.

Maybe it would lead to some great trades or sells on b/s/t.

[Jacker_ Cracks]

Love the shoe box idea!!!!!!!!

It could lead to Ts, Ws, Rs, Ds, Ms, minor league cards.

Maybe it would lead to some great trades or sells on b/s/t.

+1 love this idea as well!

[edjs]

I am most definitely in, at the $25-50 range. I would prefer a pre-war, or a shoebox, as also suggested. 1941 Play Ball is a great set choice, but it seems to me the slots would sell out fast. Maybe add some of the paper issue to the list to add a few more opportunities?

Ed

[JollyElm]

I find it very important, as others have noted, too, that you structure the process so the most people possible get an opportunity to be included. Definitely only allow one entry per person until a certain timeframe (a day or two) passes by…and then you can buy as many slots as your heart desires.

If you make payment via paypal friends & family (or whatever it's now called), then making multiple purchases over a couple of days won't extract additional fees and what not.

A suggestion. Perhaps if you guys determine the buy prices on a couple of the sets you're targeting (that fall within the price range you are seeking), you can then list those sets here and people could specifically vote on which one they would like you to use for the group break?

[deadballfreaK]

I'm definitely in for a card or three in the 25-50 buck range. I collect everything so I can get into most any set. Kinda like the shoebox idea or one of the play ball sets.

[zachtruitt]

Thanks Leon and Nick for this great idea! I can't wait until this goes live as I think it will be a great success for the site.

[Leon]

I find it very important, as others have noted, too, that you structure the process so the most people possible get an opportunity to be included. Definitely only allow one entry per person until a certain timeframe (a day or two) passes by…and then you can buy as many slots as your heart desires.

If you make payment via paypal friends & family (or whatever it's now called), then making multiple purchases over a couple of days won't extract additional fees and what not.

A suggestion. Perhaps if you guys determine the buy prices on a couple of the sets you're targeting (that fall within the price range you are seeking), you can then list those sets here and people could specifically vote on which one they would like you to use for the group break?

Since this is so fluid of a buy, and I am being more opportunist than normal, I doubt we can take a vote about what exact set/group to get. This thread is about as far as I think I want to go in involving member input. It only makes sense to get what most people enjoy, within the confines that have been laid out. All good suggestions so far. And yes, a hodgepodge of cards isn't ruled out.

[milkit1]

colgans would be fun!

[Shoebox]

I normally just lurk around here enjoying the discussions and trying to learn but love this idea and would definitely want a slot.

[Matvoo]

Great idea. I would like the T206 set, but a subset will be much more manageable.

This a subset for t206 would be awesome

[wazoo]

This a subset for t206 would be awesome

Would love t206s...but I wouldn't mind settling for 1941 Play Ball. Even if I don't collect them. That or some 1915 Cracker Jacks...idk how that would work considering there are some expensive cards. What about E cards?

[Sean1125]

As a side note, a t206 break could be arranged in the 40 to 50 price point, and t205s (if a set could be found) in the same, maybe cheaper

[ullmandds]

I love the idea of a shoebox...or a vintage set...exhibits would be cool.

[Jayworld]

Maybe too late to chime in, but would be interested in:

Prewar:
1940 Playball
T201
1939 Playball

Postwar:
1952 Bowman
1955 Topps Doubleheaders

[obcbobd]

Leon

I'm in. I trust your judgement. This should be fun

Bob

[JasonD08]

Diamond Stars would be a great one or even 1934 Goudey. Alot of HOFers.

[autocentral]

Keep the post coming. Thank you to all for the input.

-Nick

[edjs]

Did this idea die? Did I miss it? Did a set get decided?

[Rich Klein]

I suggested to Leon when I saw an auction currently running about several post-war sets which would were available reaonably and he indicated to me that he would much rather run pre-war (which makes sense)

However, I think some of the sets I mentined, would be great for this and I hope he reconsiders :D

Rich

[GehrigFan]

To make it a pre-war set and yet one where the value is spread out nicely can be tough... but I would suggest one of the Games. 1936 S&S, 1913 Tom Barker, 1913 National Game, 1914 Polo Grounds - they are completely loaded with Hall of Famers so instead of 1-2 people getting one big card, many people would get a nice HOF card. Would also keep the cost per person down. You'd still have a few higher end hits like a National Game Joe Jackson.

[Leon]

To make it a pre-war set and yet one where the value is spread out nicely can be tough... but I would suggest one of the Games. 1936 S&S, 1913 Tom Barker, 1913 National Game, 1914 Polo Grounds - they are completely loaded with Hall of Famers so instead of 1-2 people getting one big card, many people would get a nice HOF card. Would also keep the cost per person down. You'd still have a few higher end hits like a National Game Joe Jackson.

Thanks Mark......certainly something to keep in mind. I am high bidder on one lot right now so we will see. It's not too easy as once I bid on one lot I have to be careful not to buy another one if I am bidding for the same purpose......I am still hot on the trail though. Thanks for everyone's patience.

[pawpawdiv9]

Just catching up on this...i love the idea of a 'mixed bag'. Like one guy said, it gets ALL of us interested in this. Not knowing what you can get will be interesting indeed. I am more post-war, but i wouldnt mind getting a piece of pre-war.

[Leon]

Just catching up on this...i love the idea of a 'mixed bag'. Like one guy said, it gets ALL of us interested in this. Not knowing what you can get will be interesting indeed. I am more post-war, but i wouldnt mind getting a piece of pre-war.

I can't say what but my high bid right now is a tiny bit post war.......I am really just looking for a real good value where there are some HOF'ers and some quantity so everyone can play. I am not just buying the first thing out there.....

[Shoebox]

I can't say what but my high bid right now is a tiny bit post war.......I am really just looking for a real good value where there are some HOF'ers and some quantity so everyone can play. I am not just buying the first thing out there.....

40s Exhibt set perhaps?

[pokerplyr80]

I'm new to this forum but I'd be in for the break. 41 play ball and 51 bowman both sound good.

[pokerplyr80]

I'm new to this forum but I'm in for the break. 41 play ball or 51 bowman sound good

[25801wv]

I think Play Ball would be the best value but would be happy with anything you choose.

[Louieman]

Yeah, hopefully it's not too late for input. If it is, I'm simply in for the idea. If it's not, I'd suggest 47-66 exhibits, bowman 49-51, or t206

[Leon]

I appreciate everyone's input on this topic. I am actively looking for the right set. If it is not Pre-War it will be a set with a lot of good HOF'er cards. It will definitely be vintage. Hopefully I will have another update soon.

[Leon]

Thanks to Sterling Sports Auctions for auctioning the set we will be breaking. While it's not pre-war, it's close. More details soon......

http://sterlingsportsauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=26154



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[Econteachert205]

Great deal Leon! I can't wait to participate... so many options for a winner, great rookies

[brianp-beme]

Even though I do not collect post-war I'm still in...plenty of nice opportunities for us, and not a bad looking set of cards. Thanks Leon, and let's make this fun

Brian

[Leon]

Even though I do not collect post-war I'm still in...plenty of nice opportunities for us, and not a bad looking set of cards. Thanks Leon, and let's make this fun

Brian

I know Brian......I really did want Pre-War but it was just taking so long. I had to consider so many things and at the end of it I wanted something that was a good value (I think this probably was), is definitely vintage (it is) and had some high end cards that are possibilities. Plus the cost per chance couldn't be too high either. I need to pay for it and get it shipped to Nick and we can go from there.

[BicycleSpokes]

Tough to complain about any of the great 1950s sets getting the nod here! Thanks Leon, I am looking forward to participating.

[autocentral]

Even though it is not pre-war as most hoped it is still an amazing set with great value. Leon definitely picked a great set! I'm glad to see the tremendous support on the site. I'd also like to thank Leon for making this happen!

Im really excited and hope everyone else on the forum is!

-Nick

[wolf441]

Great choice Leon!!

However we go about letting people sign up, I'm in and I'll take as many as 10 slots if they are available after everyone has a chance to get involved. :D

[autocentral]

Great choice Leon!!

However we go about letting people sign up, I'm in and I'll take as many as 10 slots if they are available after everyone has a chance to get involved. :D

A new thread will be posted where members can actually claim spots. We should have details in the next couple of days, including exactly what the price per spot will be.

Thanks,
-Nick

[cubsfan-budman]

cool opportunity! thanks for setting this up!

[edjs]

Thanks Leon and Nick. This should be fun.

[LKeeler]

Great choice, Leon. My favorite post war set, and one that I have contemplated putting together for years. Thanks!

[bobbyw8469]

I am interested. Let me know.

[Rich Klein]

$12 per slot plus shipping allows for a decent profit and an affordable entry fee

[Leon]

$12 per slot plus shipping allows for a decent profit and an affordable entry fee

Hi Rich
We don't have a final cost per slot yet. It will be a 10% markup to the final price (hammer + BP). Then on each order there will be shipping and any other small, hard fees that are accumulated. My half of the 10% will be donated to a local animal charity of my choice.....Nick will get the other so he can officially be doing it for the love of doing it and about 2 bucks an hour....The goal was to get each random drawing to cover the cost and a buck or two after that for Nick's time and charity. We'll continue to give the exact numbers as we go.....but so far the final hammer and BP was $1955. Add 10% to that and you get $2150.05 or ($2150). Add a very small amount for actual supplies and paypal or whatever, plus shipping...and anyone can figure out the costs per however we do it :).

[JollyElm]

I would strongly like to reiterate the request to allow only one slot per person for the first couple of days (or whatever time frame works best), thus allowing 'everyone' to get a chance to join. After this fair warning time expires, then people would be able to hop in and buy as many slots as they wish.

Again, if the money is done via paypal f/f, then making multiple payments over time won't add additional fees to the mix.

[tschock]

I would strongly like to reiterate the request to allow only one slot per person for the first couple of days (or whatever time frame works best), thus allowing 'everyone' to get a chance to join. After this fair warning time expires, then people would be able to hop in and buy as many slots as they wish.

Again, if the money is done via paypal f/f, then making multiple payments over time won't add additional fees to the mix.

I concur. But might toss this out there as well for pondering.

Let's assume $10 per slot for the initial round (for argument's sake). 1 per customer for x number of days. After x number of days, leave it wide open as maybe a reverse auction (starting at $15/slot?), dropping each day until all gone (but never less than the $10/slot). The original $10/slot total (cost, overhead, charity) would still be in place with the additional going to charity.

Yeah, I know. Maybe a logistics nightmare but might generate quicker action and more for charity. Something to consider.

[gregr2]

I'm in, looking forward to this!!

[autocentral]

I would strongly like to reiterate the request to allow only one slot per person for the first couple of days (or whatever time frame works best), thus allowing 'everyone' to get a chance to join. After this fair warning time expires, then people would be able to hop in and buy as many slots as they wish.

Again, if the money is done via paypal f/f, then making multiple payments over time won't add additional fees to the mix.

We will discuss a limit once the thread is posted. There is a total of 250 card hence 250 spots so everyone should be able to get a spot. We are definitely going to make a reasonable assessment on this issue.

Thanks,
Nick

[Rich Klein]

I was trying to ensure you all a profit; based on the posts just say $10 each with a max of 3 at this point.

[Scott6043]

I would love to get on this


Thanks

[kailes2872]

I think three would be great - but I want to make sure that I get Aaron, Banks and Kaline!

[Leon]

Nick and I will discuss how to do the drawing of the lots. Absolutely everyone should get a chance at the first round of available slots, whatever that might be. My gut also tells me that 3 would be a good max number to start with, then go from there.....Most of this is going to be up to Nick....but he and I will discuss. Thanks to all who have expressed an interest.

[Shoebox]

Nice set. Excited to participate. Thanks Leon and Nick for your time and trouble to give us this opportunity.

[freakhappy]

Nice set. Excited to participate. Thanks Leon and Nick for your time and trouble to give us this opportunity.

I fully agree with this post. Thanks a lot, Leon and Nick for everything you have done to make this happen. Can't wait to participate!

[the 'stache]

I am absolutely in.

Leon, will you be able to shoot an email to everybody when it's time to sign up? I don't want to oversleep and miss anything, but if I know when to be here and sign up an official something or other, and send in my money, I will set multiple alarms to rouse my body from its supine position. :D

I would also like to know if we can buy lots for other people, too.

Oh, and of course, a big thank you to Leon, Nick, for setting this really fun idea up. Thanks also to Sterling for handling the auction.

I am very much looking forward to this!

[joeadcock]

In for Prewar

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

Sounds like a lot of people are interested and going to have fun with this. I want to Thank Leon for picking the set from Sterling, the consignor is a great guy and would also like to say Thanks.

Thanks to everyone for there participation in Sterling and Good Luck to all, I probably will get a spot myself, who wouldn't want to own a Aaron, Banks or Kaline Rookie?

Lee Behrens

[bobbyw8469]

In for 1954 Topps.

[Harford20]

I'm in as well when the buying thread starts.

Just a comment though, in looking through this thread, it seems there may already be as many as 70 buyers (although some may drop out with the post-war set). You may want to consider only 2 buying slots to start as that would push the potential buyer number to 125 total. Like me, I assume there are a number of people who have just been following the thread, waiting for the "buy" thread.

Dave

[Leon]

I'm in as well when the buying thread starts.

Just a comment though, in looking through this thread, it seems there may already be as many as 70 buyers (although some may drop out with the post-war set). You may want to consider only 2 buying slots to start as that would push the potential buyer number to 125 total. Like me, I assume there are a number of people who have just been following the thread, waiting for the "buy" thread.

Dave

Good catch Dave. There will be no harm in starting at a lower number of spots to start with, no harm at all. We DO want everyone to be able to play that wants to. We can always have another round of buys if there are some spots left. Actually, I am a bit concerned about being able to sell all of the spots to start with, but we'll see. And for the folks that really wanted a pre-war break, my apologies. I was on the lookout and will be for the next one, depending on how this one goes.

[JakeStahl'sGloveSHows]

I'm in

[Leon]

To answer a couple of Bill's (hi Bill) questions, there will be a thread which Nick will start and anyone who checks the board at least every several days will see it. It will be almost impossible not to see. :) And I see no reason why a member can't buy a slot for anyone they want to, preferably after our members get all they want to. And actually it would be appreciated if there are some leftover. I am having Sterling Sports Auctions (hi Lee) ship the set straight to Nick, in order to expedite matters a little bit. I will try harder to have a pre-war group or set next time but I really wanted to get something going already and this looked like a nice set. Like Lee said, who wouldn't want that Aaron rookie (or the others mentioned)?

[bnorth]

I was not real excited about this till it was announced that it would be a 54 Topps set. Amazing choice with the 3 nice rookies, 2 Ted Williams cards and a Willie Mays. I am in for 2 or 3 slots or what ever the limit is on the first buy in.

[zachtruitt]

Definitely excited for this!

[MikeGarcia]

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/2042957/view/1954SGC70YANKEES_NEW.JPG



....the '54's look good in the SGC holders and it's full of New York Yankees and Bob L. should have a Mantle ready by the end of the shenanigans .

[emmygirl]

Wow, this sounds like a lot of fun... Count me in for a spot or two.

[Mountaineer1999]

Awesome! Great looking cards, excited to see the official starting post.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

In!

Awesome! Great looking cards, excited to see the official starting post.

[autocentral]

Just a couple of updates!

-I will post the official thread most likely on Tuesday when I receive the set.

-Leon will also be sending an email blast once the official thread is posted

-There will be a limit of two spots per member for the first three days of the thread being active, so everyone has the opportunity to join. After that time frame members can claim as many spots as they would like

-If anyone has any more questions. Feel free to post on this thread or private message me.


Thanks,
Nick

[autocentral]

Set is arriving earlier than expected. I should have it in hand this afternoon.

I will post the thread tomorrow morning.

Thanks,
-Nick

[pawpawdiv9]

Cool. Already have a Aaron, but a chance to get some other RC is nice too.

Just a suggestion, as for the drawing...how the list is made. How about the buyer decides what # he is on the list. Especially when it comes to buying multiples slots, do people wanna have their choices confined to only those or wanna spread them out. Like if i bought 3 slots...In the previous one we did, you would get like #'s 145,146,147. How about if i could choose slots like 54,88,120 instead.
Just a suggestion, it could be more of a headache, but not really.

[cardsfan73]

I'll be in for a slot or two. Great looking set!

[ibuysportsephemera]

In for 2...not a card collector but this seems way cool. Thanks Leon and Nick.

Jeff

[blackandgold]

Sounds fun, I'm going to try to get in !

[autocentral]

Cool. Already have a Aaron, but a chance to get some other RC is nice too.

Just a suggestion, as for the drawing...how the list is made. How about the buyer decides what # he is on the list. Especially when it comes to buying multiples slots, do people wanna have their choices confined to only those or wanna spread them out. Like if i bought 3 slots...In the previous one we did, you would get like #'s 145,146,147. How about if i could choose slots like 54,88,120 instead.
Just a suggestion, it could be more of a headache, but not really.

Yes, this is exactly how it will be. Members can ask for a spot of their choice (for example spot #140) or just ask for a random spot and I will choose for them.

-Nick

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Nick/Leon- Please explain for the unknowing like myself how the process plays out. It seems like great fun and I want to take part!

[Leon]

Nick/Leon- Please explain for the unknowing like myself how the process plays out. It seems like great fun and I want to take part!

There will be a thread tomorrow explaining everything but the the summary is there will be 250 spots sold, one for each card in the set. Then there will be a random pick and each person gets their cards for each slot they bought. Sort of like a lottery where everyone gets something. Some cards will be real nice for the price, no doubt.

[bobbyw8469]

No doubt....looking forward to it.

[the 'stache]

To answer a couple of Bill's (hi Bill) questions, there will be a thread which Nick will start and anyone who checks the board at least every several days will see it. It will be almost impossible not to see. :) And I see no reason why a member can't buy a slot for anyone they want to, preferably after our members get all they want to. And actually it would be appreciated if there are some leftover. I am having Sterling Sports Auctions (hi Lee) ship the set straight to Nick, in order to expedite matters a little bit. I will try harder to have a pre-war group or set next time but I really wanted to get something going already and this looked like a nice set. Like Lee said, who wouldn't want that Aaron rookie (or the others mentioned)?

Got it. Thanks, Leon. If I bought a slot for anybody else, they would be a member of the forum. I will keep my eyes open.

[BeauUSC]

I'm new to this site - a fellow collector suggested I join-up, and I can see why. I'd like to get 3 slots on this break. Please let me know how best to do so. Cheers.

[wolf441]

I'm new to this site - a fellow collector suggested I join-up, and I can see why. I'd like to get 3 slots on this break. Please let me know how best to do so. Cheers.

Welcome to Net54. :D Click on the thread titled "Net54baseball Vintage Group Break: 1954 Topps Set", read the rules (1st slot = $13, 2nd slot = $12, maximum 2 slots for 1st 3 days) and throw your name in.