Collector poll- T206 vs. O.J.'s

[mrvster]

I don't know how to set up a poll here:o:D....but a good idea for a poll.....

I love both! but I can't really afford ojs.....wanted everyone's opinion ..


which do you like more??

if neither, just don't respond haters:D;)

[Sean]

I love T206. I don't care for OJs. But that's not exactly news.

So what's up Johnny? I think we're the only ones on the board who aren't on our way to the National. :(

But next year....

[bn2cardz]

I like Old Judge more

[Matvoo]

T206 For me :D

[oldjudge]

No surprise here--Old Judges

[clydepepper]

I'd have to go with the T206's - so much easier and cheaper to find in good condition.

[Eric72]

Since you didn't put 1991 Fleer as one of the choices, I will go with T206. :D

[veleno45]

The monster. So many beautiful cards.

[mrvster]

keep 'em coming! love them both, my passion is T206 scraps....I love ojs too, but cant afford most....scraps are out of my range now:mad:

[teetwoohsix]

T206 for sure.

OJ's are cool, just too pricey for me.

Sincerely, Clayton

[4815162342]

I don't collect either, but...

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[mrvster]

meaning "old judge" cards N172 .....,.

a collector had asked me to specify ......thanks for the heads up:)

Sean....call me!! make ac in 2016:)

[T206Collector]

OJs...

...will never have color

...will never have Cobb, Johnson, Mathewson, Plank, or Wagner

...will never have the American League

...will always have blank backs

...will have way more players and variations than can ever be documented

...will always have fewer HOFers than T206

...only have one documented example of an autographed card (Mack)

...are usually brown and often hard to see clearly

[Matvoo]

meaning "old judge" cards N172 .....,.

a collector had asked me to specify ......thanks for the heads up:)

Sean....call me!! make ac in 2016:)
Funny thing is that I responded in this thread before I knew what OJ was?

[mrvster]

wow! great breakdown:eek:

[mrvster]

:eek::)

[mrvster]

no worries! we got your back:) you didn't have to say it was you:D

but that's fine! we are here to teach....no question here is dumb..I should have specified cause we have a lot of newer members here now which is GREAT:) ....like I said, your keeping our hobby/history alive..I ask all the time! I am very wise in T206, but not so much other issues...:o

I have to ask all the time and I have been collecting 35 years!:eek:

check out the thread

"only o.j.'s" by ladder(steve)

ojs are great, but have their flaws as paul pointed out :)

[Matvoo]

no worries! we got your back:) you didn't have to say it was you:D

but that's fine! we are here to teach....no question here is dumb..I should have specified cause we have a lot of newer members here now which is GREAT:) ....like I said, your keeping our hobby/history alive..I ask all the time! I am very wise in T206, but not so much other issues...:o

I have to ask all the time and I have been collecting 35 years!:eek:

check out the thread

"only o.j.'s" by ladder(steve)

ojs are great, but have their flaws as paul pointed out :)I collected for a year and a month. So still a long way to go but getting overwhelmed with so many cool sets. So sticking with t206

[mrvster]

you are doing great!

email or pm me any questions (especially T206 freaks:)/ oddities)

[Matvoo]

you are doing great!

email or pm me any questions (especially T206 freaks:)/ oddities)
Ooh I love oddities and freaks gonna send u a pm

[Jason]

I like OJ's more as im partial to the black and white photo cards. However there are some great looking cards in the T206 set as well. I understand peoples love for them.

[kkkkandp]

Never quite got bitten by the T06 bug. On the other hand, I have a serious Jones for OJs.

[refz]

I will not put one higher than the other as they are both important to our hobby. So im neutral

[Econteachert205]

OJs are too expensive and the player selection from my perspective is less intriguing. Plus I need color in my life. Pastels.

[wonkaticket]

Years ago I would have said T206 hands down. As I have gotten older and added nice examples of N172 and N173 I'm not so sure it would be such an easy choice today to pick between T206 and N172...and on the right day I may take N172.

See what you have done to me Jay. :p

[shernan30]

OJs are tops for me. I tried the T206s, but OJs won hands down!

[CobbSpikedMe]

I like both for different reasons.

OJs:
1. I like the early history of baseball represented.
2. Anson, Kelly, Mack, etc.
3. Double player cards
4. Brooklyn minis
5. There are thousands of different cards in the set.

T206:
1. Great HOF selection
2. Some beautiful color cards
3. Large but collectible set
4. My favorite period in baseball history
5. Nice ads on the backs and so many different types of back

Overall, I lean towards T206 over OJ, but not by much. And if money were no object, I would have one hell of a collection of OJs as well as T206s.

AndyH


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[tiger8mush]

OJs

[z28jd]

These two sets make up about 90% of the vintage cards I have. I'd probably pick OJ's if I had to, but I like the fact that T206's are much cheaper and readily available. You don't see many(any) budget OJ collectors, so seriously collecting them isn't something that many people do

[oldjudge]

LOL John--you've got the disease and it is impossible to cure. I prefer Old Judges for the following reasons:

1. Actual photos so you can see what the players really looked like
2. The first major baseball card set
3. The variety of variations (poses, errors, team changes, etc) is unparalleled.
Collecting Old Judges is a lifetime pursuit.
4. Ignoring backs, finishing the T206 set is only a matter of money. It doesn't
matter how much money you have, the rarities in the Old Judge set makes
"finishing" virtually impossible

[DHogan]

OJ's for me. I have 3. I just need one more.

[z28jd]

OJ's for me. I have 3. I just need one more.

There are five Hogan poses, are you purposely hating on one? I have one that you need, but I'm wondering if it's the one you don't want...

[wonkaticket]

LOL John--you've got the disease and it is impossible to cure. I prefer Old Judges for the following reasons:

1. Actual photos so you can see what the players really looked like
2. The first major baseball card set
3. The variety of variations (poses, errors, team changes, etc) is unparalleled.
Collecting Old Judges is a lifetime pursuit.
4. Ignoring backs, finishing the T206 set is only a matter of money. It doesn't
matter how much money you have, the rarities in the Old Judge set makes
"finishing" virtually impossible

Solid points Jay, I agree on number #4 I think even this guy still needs 3 cards to finish his set.

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[the 'stache]

T206s for me, but I recognize the importance of the OJs, and would eventually like to explore the set some. There are a few cards I would really like to add, but they are definitely more expensive, so they're down the road a bit for me.

[ValKehl]

OJs by a wide margin - T206s are not even close!!!
Val

[Joe_G.]

I prefer OJs for a number of reasons (no surprise):

- I prefer actual photo over cartoon :)
- Interesting HOF selection (29 HOFers with far more poses to consider than T206) including Anson, Delahanty, Kelly, Wright, Rusie, and White to name a few. Their histories are every bit as interesting as the early 20th century players if you care to study them.
- Hard to beat the glimpse into early baseball history, from barehanded players to early catching gear.
- Cabinets to complement the small cards which give you an opportunity for a little color if you like that (mounts)
- Far more Leagues and Teams than T206 (I think "The Monster" is more appropriate for N172)
- Many ways to collect that can fit varying budgets
- OJs & GQs as separate sets, just like T206 should be split into separate sets (my opinion)
- OJ also has the prohibitively expensive rarities to dream about . . . Anson in Uniform (Wagner), McGreachery (Plank), and so on

While many cards are tough, many are very obtainable. We've seen some board members assembly pretty complete team sets in a rather short time for example.

[oldjudge]

Ah, I forgot one important Old Judge plus---no PSA registry of note. The people who collect Old Judges tend to collect the cards, not the plastic.

[wonkaticket]

Ah, I forgot one important Old Judge plus---no PSA registry of note. The people who collect Old Judges tend to collect the cards, not the plastic.

Show off. ;)

[Eric72]

Out of curiosity, what would the checklist be for an OJ Philadelphia Phillies team set? I do think the cards are great and would like to build a small collection of them.

[ethicsprof]

Both sets are fascinating.
I must say that the unparalleled research of Jay M., Joe G., and Richard M.
along with their recent magnificent tome on the subject has captured me in recent years and tilts me to the OJs.
all the best,

barry

[mrvster]

Both are Titans:eek:.....as far as more "main stream", T206 will always shine due to the Wagz and the notoriety it brings....


I love ''em both...:)

but T206 Scraps are my FAV:)

[4815162342]

Johnny, I heard an unsubstantiated rumor from an unverified source that you like T206 scraps. :D

[darwinbulldog]

OJ

[mrvster]

you heard right my friend:)

[oldjudge]

"Out of curiosity, what would the checklist be for an OJ Philadelphia Phillies team set? I do think the cards are great and would like to build a small collection of them."

I think this is a question for SuperJoe

[deadballfreaK]

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[z28jd]

"Out of curiosity, what would the checklist be for an OJ Philadelphia Phillies team set? I do think the cards are great and would like to build a small collection of them."

I think this is a question for SuperJoe

That's easy, Harry Wright, Bob Allen, Jack Clements, Harry Decker, Kid Gleason, Billy Hamilton, Pop Schriver, Sam Thompson and Cod Myers

They were the Quakers before 1890, so only 1890 Phila. NL cards are Phillies cards :)

Good luck finding those cards!

[Bosox Blair]

That's easy, Harry Wright, Bob Allen, Jack Clements, Harry Decker, Kid Gleason, Billy Hamilton, Pop Schriver, Sam Thompson and Cod Myers

They were the Quakers before 1890, so only 1890 Phila. NL cards are Phillies cards :)

Good luck finding those cards!

What about this one:

[Bosox Blair]

That's easy, Harry Wright, Bob Allen, Jack Clements, Harry Decker, Kid Gleason, Billy Hamilton, Pop Schriver, Sam Thompson and Cod Myers

They were the Quakers before 1890, so only 1890 Phila. NL cards are Phillies cards :)

Good luck finding those cards!

I see now - your list is only the 1890 OJ Phillies and not the Phila. NL cards from earlier years.

Cheers,
Blair

[z28jd]

I see now - your list is only the 1890 OJ Phillies and not the Phila. NL cards from earlier years.

Cheers,
Blair

Yeah I was answering the question exactly how it was asked, which I'm sure wasn't the intention. The list of players on Philadelphia in the set is long and includes Delahanty, Ferguson, Buffinton, George and Pete Wood, Irwin, Fogarty, Farrar and Mulvey just to name a few

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

OJs are more interesting but quickly get out of my price range.

[E93]

I love and collect both sets. Both are endlessly interesting and aesthetically pleasing in their own ways.
JimB

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[oldjudge]

Great Comiskey Jim. Now what T206 has a player with a black eye?

[mrvster]

all great points on both sides......I love both, but O.j.S will always be the bridesmaid to T206.....

There is no comparison to the T206 Wagner......yes, Mcgreachery, Anson Uniform......Huge cards, but don't shine a light to the popularity of WAGNER ...

that one card alone will always snuff this debate when it comes to "popularity" aspect of collecting baseball cards.....

even people who know nothing about baseball have heard of the "Wagner"....it spans across even hobbyists....

it has almost single "card-ed-ly" imho, kept baseball card collecting in the limelight and popular the last century.....

the debate could go on for ever I think....."tastes great! / less filling"....(of the old miller lite commercials;))....


T206 vs. O.J.'s


the debate will always end before it begins if the wagner is factored into the equation....

[steve B]

I love and collect both sets. Both are endlessly interesting and aesthetically pleasing in their own ways.
JimB

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Pretty much how I see it. I really like both sets, (Ok, make that any card set -I'm easy. :) ) I have more T206s because they're less expensive but I really enjoy my OJs.

Although.........They aren't anywhere near as nice as that one. Wonderful card.

Steve B

[brian1961]

I much prefer the T-206 over Old Judges. However, if you truly love the 19th century era most of all, collect the OJs. I imagine you'd be happier with more than a few cards, but if the few cards you would have represent the time period you favor the most, that's where you'll be more fulfilled.

Unfortunately, the cost is exorbitant no matter which of these you choose.:(

OR, identify what cards attract your eye the most from both sets---get a little of both. No law says you have to have just one. (card company issue, that is!!)
--Brian Powell

[mrvster]

great advice! that's what I do....pick up an oj here and there and I obsess on T206:)

[LEHR]

For me it's N172's over T206 any day.

[Centauri]

I would take the T205 over either, but T206 over OJ. Color wins the day for me.

(But I love the stats and bios on the T205)

[MikeU]

I don't know how to set up a poll here:o:D....but a good idea for a poll.....

I love both! but I can't really afford ojs.....wanted everyone's opinion ..


which do you like more??

if neither, just don't respond haters:D;)

T206. As a Detroit Tiger and American League fan, hard for me to get excited about pre-1901 items. Would think differently if the heritage of the Wolverines were tied into the history of the Tigers officially.

[Mountaineer1999]

OJs are more interesting but quickly get out of my price range.

Agreed... I would love to own some of the bigger names from the OJ set. Maybe eventually.