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mds308
07-22-2014, 12:25 PM
Any help would be appreciated. I have little money in the ball so I have nothing to lose and everything to gain. It's on a Bobby Brown AL ball. Let me know what you think. Real or Faux ?


http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/mds308/joe.jpg (http://s1202.photobucket.com/user/mds308/media/joe.jpg.html)

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/mds308/joe1.jpg (http://s1202.photobucket.com/user/mds308/media/joe1.jpg.html)

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/mds308/joe2.jpg (http://s1202.photobucket.com/user/mds308/media/joe2.jpg.html)

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/mds308/joe3.jpg (http://s1202.photobucket.com/user/mds308/media/joe3.jpg.html)

GrayGhost
07-22-2014, 12:52 PM
Not really totally confident, but would lean toward "that's good"

shelly
07-22-2014, 03:57 PM
It would be nice if you posted your name. Is is also nice to know that you have nothing to lose and everything to gain at no cost to you. :)

mds308
07-22-2014, 04:03 PM
My name is Michael.

David Atkatz
07-22-2014, 04:44 PM
It would be nice if you posted your name. Is is also nice to know that you have nothing to lose and everything to gain at no cost to you. :)Uh oh... The "Advice Nazi" strikes again. "No advice for you!"

thetruthisoutthere
07-22-2014, 05:21 PM
Uh oh... The "Advice Nazi" strikes again. "No advice for you!"


Are you aware of Shelly's family history in Europe?

Your "Advice Nazi" was an inappropriate choice of words.

By the way, Mr. Atkatz, what is your opinion on the Joe DiMaggio?

mds308
07-22-2014, 05:30 PM
All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

thetruthisoutthere
07-22-2014, 05:51 PM
All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

You already got your answer over here, Michael, didn't you.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/joe-dimaggio-or-joe-difauxggio

toyman55
07-22-2014, 06:04 PM
All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.
I have been on this forum now for 4 years and though I am not bothered by the banter, bickering and insults thrown around on some of the forum discussions I am disturbed when what I find a Anti Semitic remark is made. I am Jewish as well though my family came here at the turn of the century from Russia to escape killing of Jews by the pogroms. Many of my friends parents were lucky to survive the Nazi camps thankfully but many more were killed. I would not ask David for an apology, He has been a great help to me as well as others on autographs. It is up to him if he feels it be appropriate. As far as Michael is concerned and I have learned this the hard way, you need to disclose all you can about your item including if you have had others look at it and give an opinion. Lets please avoid any remarks here that attach someone personally. Attack them for being ignorant, naive, or for lying if that is what makes you feel better.
Last, Thank you Leon for such a great forum we all enjoy.

RichardSimon
07-22-2014, 06:15 PM
Shale,
David has insisted on attacking Shelly personally. That is the only personal attack I have seen on this thread due to Chris posting it, as I have David on a block to avoid seeing his usual personal attacks which are usually directed toward Shelly and/or Chris.

mds308
07-22-2014, 07:03 PM
You already got your answer over here, Michael, didn't you.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...joe-difauxggio


At the other site I received one ignorant response followed by a genuine response followed by two yes-men. I was referred to this site by a good friend who recommended the knowledge of its users. He informed me that the good folks here would be able to help ID the ball. Is there something wrong with learning from two different forums?

Before anybody criticizes me for a duplicate post, by mistake, I had posted this question in another section of this forum. In my defense, I have emailed the moderator and asked him to remove the first post.

Can't we all just get along? :)

shelly
07-22-2014, 07:08 PM
At the other site I received one ignorant response followed by a genuine response followed by two yes-men. I was referred to this site by a good friend who recommended the knowledge of its users. He informed me that the good folks here would be able to help ID the ball. Is there something wrong with learning from two different forums?

Before anybody criticizes me for a duplicate post, by mistake, I had posted this question in another section of this forum. In my defense, I have emailed the moderator and asked him to remove the first post.

Can't we all just get along? :)

Yes, of course you can, but from what I read the responce you recived is spot on. The ball is authentic but so faded it will not get much for it.
Am I missing anything.
The one thing you will never get on this site is yes men. Everyone has an opinion but most of the time it works out to be the correct answer.

Deertick
07-22-2014, 07:12 PM
It would be nice if you posted your name. Is is also nice to know that you have nothing to lose and everything to gain at no cost to you. :)

Shelly,
You have stated several times that you will no longer offer your autograph expertise to anyone that hasn't been a member for one (or two, or five, whatever) years. I would respectively submit that adhering to that decision would be preferable to what you have been doing lately with unsuspecting newcomers.

While anyone may be subject to some scrutiny (and some deservedly so), I think that a few questions with an attitude of 'help first' would serve us all better.

shelly
07-22-2014, 07:23 PM
Not a problem. You take it from here. Remember there just babes in the woods. You can help them all you want.

David Atkatz
07-22-2014, 07:23 PM
Are you aware of Shelly's family history in Europe?

Your "Advice Nazi" was an inappropriate choice of words.

By the way, Mr. Atkatz, what is your opinion on the Joe DiMaggio?Chris, as the OP said, there was nothing inappropriate about the Seinfeld reference. I'm sure that Seinfeld, and Larry David, and every other Jew associated with that show lost relatives in the Holocaust, too

As did I. The name "Atkatz" is a bastardization of the name of a town in Lithuania. That town no longer exists. Wanna guess where it went? On my other side, my maternal grandfather, Isadore Horowitz, came here from Lodz, Poland. Ever hear of the Lodz Ghetto? I don't think the Horowitzs left behind fared too well.

I've enjoyed getting along with you lately, Chris, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, to reiterate, there was nothing inappropriate about what I said.

My opinion on the DiMaggio is not relevant. I'm no expert on DiMaggio, so my opinion would be worthless.

David Atkatz
07-22-2014, 07:30 PM
Just saw your post, Shale. I'm sorry if I offended you, but, really, offended by a play on Seinfeld's Soup Nazi? I always thought we Jews--especially those of Eastern European descent--had a sense of humor.
I hope you'll read what I (a Lidvock/Polish Jew, and very proud of it) posted above.

mds308
07-22-2014, 07:43 PM
Shelly,

Thank you. This was all I asked for.

David,

Russian, Romanian & Polish (and as Cartman from South Park would say) J-O-O.

MikeKam
07-22-2014, 08:16 PM
At the other site I received one ignorant response followed by a genuine response followed by two yes-men. I was referred to this site by a good friend who recommended the knowledge of its users. He informed me that the good folks here would be able to help ID the ball. Is there something wrong with learning from two different forums?

Before anybody criticizes me for a duplicate post, by mistake, I had posted this question in another section of this forum. In my defense, I have emailed the moderator and asked him to remove the first post.

Can't we all just get along? :)

:(

Runscott
07-22-2014, 08:45 PM
All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

We've been labeled 'useless' by the 6-post guy twice in one post. I think that's a new record. Not to defend anything anyone has done in your thread, but if it were me, I'd read a few threads of similar ilk before posting. You'll find that there are about, oh...a gazillion threads asking if items signed by DiMaggio, Ruth, Mantle, Koufax, etc., are real. Such threads could give you an idea of how to walk about in here, and what to expect. You would find that we've had a lot of new guys asking such questions and the responses were not always real nice, and the reactions to civil responses were not always very respectful (We frequently give free advice and get our asses kicked for it). Also keep in mind that it's an internet forum, so while it's probably the best one (in the entire internet, including Canada), you are guaranteed to have to read lots of crap, even in your own thread that you personally started, where you would like to rule exactly how everyone responds.

In fact, I bet I get a wrist-slap from someone for this post, and that's fine.

..and welcome.

Lordstan
07-22-2014, 09:12 PM
In fact, I bet I get a wrist-slap from someone for this post, and that's fine.

..and welcome.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/lordstan/mb1y04.gif

David Atkatz
07-22-2014, 09:14 PM
Three more Eastern European Jews!

Lordstan
07-22-2014, 09:19 PM
Three more Eastern European Jews!

Though I'm not Jewish, I'm glad I could contribute in a positive way!

Runscott
07-22-2014, 10:17 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/lordstan/mb1y04.gif

Someone told me that I could be the 3rd stooge in their group. I wisely chose Moe. "With a rebel yell, I cried Moe, Moe, Moe....Moe Moe Moe!!!"

RichardSimon
07-23-2014, 08:47 AM
Though I'm not Jewish, I'm glad I could contribute in a positive way!

This club allows non Jews to join also,, glad to have you aboard :):).

Fuddjcal
07-23-2014, 09:28 AM
Chris, as the OP said, there was nothing inappropriate about the Seinfeld reference. I'm sure that Seinfeld, and Larry David, and every other Jew associated with that show lost relatives in the Holocaust, too

As did I. The name "Atkatz" is a bastardization of the name of a town in Lithuania. That town no longer exists. Wanna guess where it went? On my other side, my maternal grandfather, Isadore Horowitz, came here from Lodz, Poland. Ever hear of the Lodz Ghetto? I don't think the Horowitzs left behind fared too well.

I've enjoyed getting along with you lately, Chris, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, to reiterate, there was nothing inappropriate about what I said.

My opinion on the DiMaggio is not relevant. I'm no expert on DiMaggio, so my opinion would be worthless.

I'm Jewish too and I wasn't offended in the least about the "Autograph Nazi" remark. I thought it was funny. Werdesheims, Bercovich's & Horkheimers OH MY. With a name like Tapia? Go Figure. Shelly has thick skin and it's ok to bust balls once in a while.:D

Oh, and the Dimaggio is authentic and faded worth about 150-180 IMHO

packs
07-23-2014, 09:52 AM
Sometimes this forum gets a little too "Nick The Computer Guy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKL6RM8hsY

shelly
07-23-2014, 11:01 AM
Mark, Richard forgot to mention the Mohel.:eek:

Lordstan
07-23-2014, 02:24 PM
Richard,
Thanks for the invite, but If Shelly's comment does have me rethinking a little bit. One snip per lifetime is enough I think.
Best,
Mark

https://screen.yahoo.com/royal-deluxe-ii-000000400.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCl53K1uJTQ

RichardSimon
07-23-2014, 04:56 PM
Richard,
Thanks for the invite, but If Shelly's comment does have me rethinking a little bit. One snip per lifetime is enough I think.
Best,
Mark

https://screen.yahoo.com/royal-deluxe-ii-000000400.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCl53K1uJTQ

I have been told that it only hurts for 24 hours :)

Exhibitman
07-23-2014, 05:04 PM
Though I'm not Jewish, I'm glad I could contribute in a positive way!

You don't have to be Jewish to contribute here...but it couldn't hurt. You can spin the driedel with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock [both Jewish]

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/collectorshowcase/large/Star%20Trek%20TOS%20Shatner.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/collectorshowcase/large/Star%20Trek%20TOS%20Nimoy.jpg

Exhibitman
07-23-2014, 05:05 PM
I have been told that it only hurts for 24 hours :)

Yeah, that's what they told me to sell me on a vasectomy. Six months later when I could cross my legs again without screaming...

"Easier than a dental filling" they said. Riiigghhhhtttt.... When I get a filling I get valium before, nitrous during and vicodin after. For a vasectomy I got a local and Tylenol. Tylenol! They might as well have waved a chicken bone and chanted over my sack--it's gotta be as effective at relieving pain as Tylenol and I can drink afterwards.

I didn't even want the damned vasectomy; it was a birthday present from my wife.

Lordstan
07-23-2014, 05:13 PM
Yeah, that's what they told me to sell me on a vasectomy. Six months later when I could cross my legs again without screaming...

"Easier than a dental filling" they said. Riiigghhhhtttt.... When I get a filling I get valium before, nitrous during and vicodin after. For a vasectomy I got a local and Tylenol. Tylenol! They might as well have waved a chicken bone and chanted over my sack--it's gotta be as effective at relieving pain as Tylenol and I can drink afterwards.

I didn't even want the damned vasectomy; it was a birthday present from my wife.

Mazel tov and Zei Gezunt!

See. A little more practice and I'll have it all down.

Lordstan
07-23-2014, 05:17 PM
You don't have to be Jewish to contribute here...but it couldn't hurt. You can spin the driedel with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock [both Jewish]

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/collectorshowcase/large/Star%20Trek%20TOS%20Shatner.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/collectorshowcase/large/Star%20Trek%20TOS%20Nimoy.jpg

L'bn l'ang 'wn g'dyya'n
(Live long and Prosper in Yiddish)

OK. I admit I had to look that one up.

mds308
07-23-2014, 07:12 PM
Look what I started. I guess all is well that ends well. I hope I didn't burn any bridges. Thanks to everyone that replied. I realize when you come to a forum as a new guy it's like coming into a strangers house only this time I forgot to wipe my feet and I didn't put the seat down when I was finished. My bad. Thanks again and I really do appreciate the help, advice and comments.

Michael

JT
07-23-2014, 07:43 PM
.....and to cap it all off....Adam Sandler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeC8nTYEwQQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Nyygameused
07-23-2014, 08:00 PM
Look what I started. I guess all is well that ends well. I hope I didn't burn any bridges. Thanks to everyone that replied. I realize when you come to a forum as a new guy it's like coming into a strangers house only this time I forgot to wipe my feet and I didn't put the seat down when I was finished. My bad. Thanks again and I really do appreciate the help, advice and comments.

Michael

Nah not at all, you walked into a zoo and the "lions" attacked. I felt the same way. There are some awesome knowledgeable people on this forum. However some take a "new" guy as a scam artist from the get. From another "new guy" welcome

shelly
07-23-2014, 08:56 PM
Sorry, I started this and I will end this. Most of the time when you enter a zoo you know what your going to get. I am sure that is true with you.
When people asked for your name you said I am the most famous guy in the new industry. Not one person has any idea what and who you are.
They do know that a donkey might be called a mule but there is big defense. When you grow up and find out what is missing come back on here.
A zoo is there to make people see something they might have never seen before. You are someone we will see over and over again.:(

Nyygameused
07-23-2014, 09:04 PM
You will come to learn mr. Shelly= mr. Negativity to all your post. He seems to want to win every argument (even when not presented).

Deertick
07-23-2014, 09:16 PM
Sorry, I started this and I will end this. Most of the time when you enter a zoo you know what your going to get. I am sure that is true with you.
When people asked for your name you said I am the most famous guy in the new industry. Not one person has any idea what and who you are.
They do know that a donkey might be called a mule but there is big defense. When you grow up and find out what is missing come back on here.
A zoo is there to make people see something they might have never seen before. You are someone we will see over and over again.:(

Reminds me of the famous "Chuck, there are 3 kinds of people in the world: D##ks, P***ies, and Ass****les." speech of 2004. Found in the documentary Team America:World Police.

Deertick
07-23-2014, 09:32 PM
You will come to learn mr. Shelly= mr. Negativity to all your post. He seems to want to win every argument (even when not presented).

Not entirely true. If one chooses to answer direct questions in an obtuse manner, or stands on the "Do you know who I AM? method of retort, Yes Shelly will be there a-banging as will many of us. Sometimes smoke is just smoke. But sometimes it's not. Shelly is like the drug dog who marks on every bag and makes us all go thru special screening at the airport. If we don't vette properly, the forgers have won.
I am 3 seconds fro ambienihilation.

Nyygameused
07-23-2014, 10:20 PM
If not The cops of the internet..... Who will protect us?

ocjack
07-24-2014, 07:45 AM
Just wondering, as a Jew on this site, are we considered by others to be "trimmed?" ;)

mds308
07-24-2014, 08:24 AM
All my autographed balls have mini Kippahs.

Runscott
07-24-2014, 09:30 AM
You will come to learn mr. Shelly= mr. Negativity to all your post. He seems to want to win every argument (even when not presented).

You are projecting. You dug your heels in and refused to budge when a few simple requests were put to you. Since then you've done nothing to make things any better. Alienating Shelly and quite a few others on this forum isn't doing you any good, and you've made it very obvious that you could care less.

So don't compare yourself to this guy - like me and many others here, he figured things out and he's here to have some fun.

shelly
07-24-2014, 10:33 AM
Just wondering, as a Jew on this site, are we considered by others to be "trimmed?" ;)
The question is do the women grade it authentic:D

RichardSimon
07-24-2014, 11:51 AM
The question is do the women grade it authentic:D

Good to see that an old(er) man has not lost interest :).

Nyygameused
07-24-2014, 12:33 PM
You are projecting. You dug your heels in and refused to budge when a few simple requests were put to you. Since then you've done nothing to make things any better. Alienating Shelly and quite a few others on this forum isn't doing you any good, and you've made it very obvious that you could care less.

So don't compare yourself to this guy - like me and many others here, he figured things out and he's here to have some fun.

I was "alienated" first on here sir, regardless of that fact I decided not to leave this forum. What stance can one take when every follow up to one of his/her post is a negative and or argumentative one? I haven't put anyone down/ alienated anyone on here (I'm not sure how one can do so over the internet anyway)

Runscott
07-24-2014, 12:53 PM
I was "alienated" first on here sir, regardless of that fact I decided not to leave this forum. What stance can one take when every follow up to one of his/her post is a negative and or argumentative one? I haven't put anyone down/ alienated anyone on here (I'm not sure how one can do so over the internet anyway)

Well, then I guess taking a shot at people here any chance you get, is your only option :rolleyes: Good luck with that.

shelly
07-24-2014, 03:38 PM
[QUOTE=Lordstan;1301115]Richard,
Thanks for the invite, but If Shelly's comment does have me rethinking a little bit. One snip per lifetime is enough I think.
Best,
Mark
Mark I think you made a wise decision:eek:


Doctors Cut Off Alabama Man's Penis During Routine ...
www.inquisitr.com/1370670/doctors-cut-off-penis/
by Jonathan Vankin - 17 hours ago - A man's penis was amputated by doctors when he went in for a circumcision, without any explanation why, a new lawsuit alleges.

Runscott
07-24-2014, 03:40 PM
I have a friend who did it 3 times, undone twice, both times to have more children with a new wife. Other than that, he seemed like an intelligent guy.

RichardSimon
07-24-2014, 03:53 PM
I have a friend who did it 3 times, undone twice, both times to have more children with a new wife. Other than that, he seemed like an intelligent guy.

Cool, circumcision the new form of birth control.

shelly
07-24-2014, 04:05 PM
Richard, I think he meant vasectomy not circumcision:confused:

Runscott
07-24-2014, 04:20 PM
I read "one snip per lifetime". "Snip" = 'vasectomy' to me.

RichardSimon
07-24-2014, 05:08 PM
The conversation was about circumcision but Scott brought up vasectomy, so I spun it off in that direction.

shelly
07-24-2014, 06:35 PM
My main question is does anyone have a piece that has been autographed by Koufax or Greenberg. I looked through all the cc auctions. Nothing.:D
Sorry I know it is a bit gross. To be honest it is the only thing I have not seen in CC auctions.

Runscott
07-24-2014, 07:41 PM
...:( I posted in the wrong thread.

Lordstan
07-24-2014, 07:53 PM
...:( I posted in the wrong thread.

More slapping for you.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/lordstan/giphy.gif

Edit: I wrote as you were you editing yours.

mds308
07-30-2014, 07:45 PM
Hey RichardSimon,

Once, I had a job circumcising elephants. It didn't pay well but the tips were enormous.

Old but funny.

Econteachert205
07-30-2014, 08:02 PM
After having looked at several good ones it has my amateur seal of approval. The motion looks smooth, the major hallmarks look to be there, I like the fading.

Baseball Fan
07-31-2014, 10:37 AM
Hahaha. This is the most bizarre thread I've ever read on here. The conversation is all over the place.