c1904 Andover v. Exeter Track Meet Poster & Motorized Bicycle Photo - Rose Bowl Flea

[CarltonHendricks]

Took a 6 hr. run down down to the Rose Bowl Flea weekend before last...to celebrate finishing my 2013 National Road Trip story...what a great town Pasadena is...and what great weather...

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I didn't find a whole lot...one little $50.00 photo...It was of some kind of motorized pilot bicycle for bicycle racing...Over the last year I picked up a cool multi-sport tin...made in Holland...that featured the same type motorized pilot bike...so I had to get it...The photo has some creases and appears to have some age...but doesn't seem to be first generation...nevertheless it was coming with me....Above a link to a page to see all sides of the tin...

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Honestly I've yet to research how and why motorized pilot bikes were used...I just thought it was very unusual to have on the lid of a tin...and I only know of one other example...and it's in the Netherlands

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After the RB I drove over to my friend Ryan Sims' home and had dinner with him and his wife...and bought the 1904 Andover v. Exeter track poster below from him...It wasn't cheap but find another in that condition...Color illustrated and with the all important precise date!!!...I believe they are the oldest high school/prep school rivalry in the country...and are basically feeder schools for Harvard and Yale...

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[steve B]

Both items show what's called motorpaced racing.

Basically the bicycle riders draft behind the motorcycles.

Both the bicycles and motorcycles are made specially for that particular sort of race.
Before motorcycles there were paced races where the riders were behind other bikes with usually two or three riders. From the 1890's till around 1910 paced races were very popular. Speeds around 40 mph, and rather dangerous. Many of the riders moved on to auto or motorcycle racing, or flying airplanes at air shows. Especially after a horrible accident in Germany where the pacing motorcycle crashed into the crowd at speed and caught fire. Airshows despite the apparent risk were actually safer and more profitable since the plane didn't need to actually fly to earn appearance fees.

Motorpacing remained popular through the 30's, usually as part of a six day race, and is still hanging on although there hasn't been a world championship for a few years and it's not usually part of a typical large track race.
Depending on where the bikes are run, some pretty insane speeds can be reached. At a very large track or an auto race track 60+ isn't unusual. And the current world record is 166.944 MPH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5wmkXu_v2k

"Normal" motorpacing here.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLTf1_SN8MQ

I own two motorpacing bikes, One from the 1980's the other from probably the 1920's. Here's the older one.
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=123&pictureid=15693

The small front wheel helps get the rider closer to the motorcycle, and the backwards front fork both shortens the bike and makes it less likely to crash if you get too close and hit the motorcycle. The motorcycles have a roller on the back as well.
The older bike I have was crashed at one point, and converted to being a normal bike. It took a bit of hunting to find the parts.

The picture is really a nice one. I think I've seen it before. Many of the pictures were used for several years for postcards and photos. A really big one is unusual. I may have a copy of that one on my computer somewhere, If I can find it. I might also have the riders names along with it.

Steve B

[CarltonHendricks]

Both items show what's called motorpaced racing.

Basically the bicycle riders draft behind the motorcycles.

Both the bicycles and motorcycles are made specially for that particular sort of race.
Before motorcycles there were paced races where the riders were behind other bikes with usually two or three riders. From the 1890's till around 1910 paced races were very popular. Speeds around 40 mph, and rather dangerous. Many of the riders moved on to auto or motorcycle racing, or flying airplanes at air shows. Especially after a horrible accident in Germany where the pacing motorcycle crashed into the crowd at speed and caught fire. Airshows despite the apparent risk were actually safer and more profitable since the plane didn't need to actually fly to earn appearance fees.

Motorpacing remained popular through the 30's, usually as part of a six day race, and is still hanging on although there hasn't been a world championship for a few years and it's not usually part of a typical large track race.
Depending on where the bikes are run, some pretty insane speeds can be reached. At a very large track or an auto race track 60+ isn't unusual. And the current world record is 166.944 MPH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5wmkXu_v2k

"Normal" motorpacing here.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLTf1_SN8MQ

I own two motorpacing bikes, One from the 1980's the other from probably the 1920's. Here's the older one.
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=123&pictureid=15693

The small front wheel helps get the rider closer to the motorcycle, and the backwards front fork both shortens the bike and makes it less likely to crash if you get too close and hit the motorcycle. The motorcycles have a roller on the back as well.
The older bike I have was crashed at one point, and converted to being a normal bike. It took a bit of hunting to find the parts.

The picture is really a nice one. I think I've seen it before. Many of the pictures were used for several years for postcards and photos. A really big one is unusual. I may have a copy of that one on my computer somewhere, If I can find it. I might also have the riders names along with it.

Steve B

Wow Steve...thank so much for this background...really appreciate you posting it....so...to me it seems like a very unusual sport in that the skill is in the drafting....that is, the ability of the bicycle rider to keep up with the motorized bike. If the average speed is 60 MPH...with speeds up to 166...then it sounds like the draft eventually get up to a speed where the bicycle rider doesn't pedal...and just stays in the vacuum...Would that be correct?...

[steve B]

On small tracks it's around 40, sometimes a bit higher. The big tracks, now usually 333 meters are where the 60+ speeds happen.

Pros can get over 40 now with no drafting or very little, but only briefly. The world record for 1KM (roughly 1/3 of a mile) is 1 minute .082 seconds. Or an average around 37mph. But it's from a standing start, so the actual speed is somewhere over 40. Shorter distances can be done at maybe 45 or so.

The motorpacing is faster, or just as fast over a longer distance. While keeping up with the motorcycle is important because the motorbike is shielding the rider from the wind, There's usually some communication. Done purely by shouting in the old days. (Yeah, imagine biking at 40mph and still being able to shout to the driver to speed up :eek:) Getting out of the draft is a rough ride, coming out of rather still air into what's essentially a 40+ headwind. Bad enough to cause a crash.
At those speeds the draft doesn't really pull you along.

The motorpacing like Rompelberg did is a whole different thing. The gearing is so hard they're towed to around 60, then released. (The two or three most recent only) The previous record holder is one of my favorite cyclists. His record was 152, and at somewhere over 140 he ran into an odd aerodynamic effect where the vortex from the turbulent area around the car caused a serious tailwind inside the draft area. That ended up slamming him into the back of the car a few times. But he still had to keep pedaling or drop out into the 140+ air around him. It stopped around 150.

Only a handful of people have managed over 100.
Alf Letourner 108 in 1941 And on wooden rims too.
Jose Meiffret 125 in 1962
Alan Abbott 138 in 1973 First one done at Bonneville salt flats
John Howard 152 in 1985 (in 1984 he tried on a stretch of highway in Mexico and reached 124 AND had a flat tire on one run at 100+)
Fred Rompelberg

Meiffret constantly increased his record during 51 and 61-2 And Rompelberg ran over 100 in the 80's before crashing then came back in the 90's and gradually improved until he had the record.

Aside from downhill mountain bikers I don't know of any others over 100. Meiffret was the only one that continued after he had the record. Including all the previous record holders back to mile a minute Murphy in 1899.


I've had my 80's motorpacing bike over 30 unpaced, and that's being out of shape and overweight. It really wants to go fast. :D:D:D Someday I'll convince one of my friends to let me try it behind a minivan. There's only a couple I'd trust to drive, and neither has agreed yet. They think it's too crazy.

One of the things I like about the bikes is being able to take them out and ride them fast. I can't imagine taking either of the game used bats I have to the batting cage.

Steve B

[steve B]

For got to mention, the record on rollers (A sort of bike treadmill) So no problems with wind or road surface etc, is a bit over 200. So there's still room for more records.

Steve B

[CarltonHendricks]

Thanks Steve for the detailed discription...quite a sport