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Ladder7
05-21-2014, 03:44 PM
Before I sell, I'd like some thoughts from the photo guys;

4 1/2 x 5 1/2 on photo paper, no date stamp. I'm fairly certain it's not type 1. But, what year is this from? Grazie

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/image_zpsa545fc03.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/image_zps4d96fb6e.jpg

Jaybird
05-21-2014, 04:52 PM
Hey Steve, this looks like a modern repro of the 1912 Composite photo shown here. You can see it is cropped in from the edges and very poor quality compared to the original. To me it doesn't even look like it was taken from the negative. Maybe an internet printout and then photgraphed.

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/jasonleemiller/61048_lg_zps68006591.jpg


Sold in Legendary Auctions.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=67677

Ladder7
05-21-2014, 06:17 PM
Jay, it's got some age and does look like shit. Though not internet era, for sure...

A photo of a composite wire photo for that one exiled Boston fan living in Argentina in the forties. Why on earth would anyone do this?

Thanks for looking.

thecatspajamas
05-21-2014, 07:34 PM
Looks to me like a photo of a photo, or perhaps a photo of a printed newspaper insert or somesuch. At least 1 generation removed from the original composite, which itself is a step away from the original photos it was composed of, so as you say, definitely not a Type 1.

When it was produced is anybody's guess. You could try a black light test and see if it glows, which would tell you it was mid-1950's or later. Perhaps if you know something about the history of Argentina's use of postal codes (I certainly don't), you could glean some rough "not earlier than" dating from that. The stamp itself looks to me more like something used by a camera shop than a particular photographer, so again, if you are somehow able to research the history of when a German camera shop by that name opened for business in Buenos Aires (presumably post-WWII), that might give you a lead as well. But in the end, I think all of that will be moot points in terms of resale value as it looks like a common pic of a pic (of a pic?) amateur method of reproducing an image, with less-than-stellar results. This method of reproducing photos was not uncommon in the days before everyone had access to copiers, scanners, camera phones, etc, and whoever took it probably didn't know how badly it would turn out until they got the film devloped. The German Red Sox fan in Argentina is an interesting twist, but I don't think it makes this one a home run.

That's my opinion anyway, since you asked...

Jaybird
05-21-2014, 07:44 PM
Jay, it's got some age and does look like shit. Though not internet era, for sure...

A photo of a composite wire photo for that one exiled Boston fan living in Argentina in the forties. Why on earth would anyone do this?

Thanks for looking.

40s or 50s makes sense to me and I get that feeling from the stamp on the back, the graphic design of it. Maybe trying out a camera on an old newspaper clipping? Very odd but still kind of neat.

There is a history of photographing larger premiums and putting them on postcards. Just not of this poor quality.