Lets see some pre 1920 minor league cards.

[goudey1933]

The T209 thread I started wet my appetite for more.
Thanks
Scott

[sb1]

09 Obak Gandil

[Leon]

pcl team cards..... E221

[joeadcock]

Scott, not a card, but pin from Minor Leagues(pre 1920)

1909, Ganzel, manager of the Champion Rochester Bronchos(Eastern League)

[paul]

1913 and 1919.

[goudey1933]

Scott, not a card, but pin from Minor Leagues(pre 1920)

1909, Ganzel, manager of the Champion Rochester Bronchos(Eastern League)

I love the pin.Any info on it? Part of a set? How it was distributed etc.?
Scott

[joeadcock]

Only one I know from the set. Dates to 1909. From Bastion Bros. Gum.

[rhettyeakley]

Here is a fun little run...
http://www.starsofthediamond.com/11zeemitze.jpg http://www.starsofthediamond.com/12zeemitze.jpg http://www.starsofthediamond.com/13zeemitze.JPG http://www.starsofthediamond.com/14zeemitze.jpg http://www.starsofthediamond.com/15zeemitze.jpg

http://www.starsofthediamond.com/16zeemitze.JPG http://www.starsofthediamond.com/17zeemitze.jpg http://www.starsofthediamond.com/18zeemitze.JPG http://www.starsofthediamond.com/19zeemitze.jpg http://www.starsofthediamond.com/20zeemitze2.JPG

[rhettyeakley]

A few more...

http://www.starsofthediamond.com/21zeemitze.JPG http://www.starsofthediamond.com/22zeemitze.jpg http://www.starsofthediamond.com/23zeemitze.JPG

[bcbgcbrcb]

The only one that I still have...............

[h2oya311]

The only one that I still have...............

Drool on the Hornsby!! I think I now have about 50-75% of the Phil Garry collection ;) when you get tired of that PC, Phil, please LMK!!

[smtjoy]

Nice stuff, here are a couple more-

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/Zeenuts/1912HomeRunKisses-Chadbourne-40.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/Zeenuts/1912HomeRunKisses-Chadbourne-40.jpg.html)http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/Zeenuts/1912HomeRunKisses-Brooks-Oakland-40.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/Zeenuts/1912HomeRunKisses-Brooks-Oakland-40.jpg.html)

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1910E99BishopampCompany-McArdle-40-Both.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1910E99BishopampCompany-McArdle-40-Both.jpg.html)http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1909ConestogaPostcards-Lancaster-SCoveleskiRookie-Auth.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1909ConestogaPostcards-Lancaster-SCoveleskiRookie-Auth.jpg.html)

[philliesphan]

The short-statured infielder who struck it rich in oil:

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfoldersko/mikeschmidt/phillies/websize/1915LouisLitschiSGC50.jpeg

[T206Collector]

My only signed T206 of a Minor Leaguer...

<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/w9R1wCYwqw1aLwOMlDDnNDiJm_Z5QsNdec5_I7WHZRE?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lU_hH5HeBT8/TZaKVGZSjKI/AAAAAAAAI8s/McwzG7OEjRE/s800/Blackburne_Auto_SGC50.JPG" height="633" width="800" /></a>

[packs]

My favorite set:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m294/madjams/Meikle_zps3db92668.jpg

[bbpostcards]

Gallery 1: http://www.sportingoregon.com/p82778321 (http://www.sportingoregon.com/p82778321)

Gallery 2: http://www.sportingoregon.com/p456549431 (http://www.sportingoregon.com/p456549431)

Click "Show All" at the bottom of the first page of each link to display everything. You can click on any image for a better look and a description.

[seattlerainiers]

This 1919 Zee doesn't seem too special....

...until you flip it over.

[Jason]

There needs to be some Red on this thread.

[Seiklis]

My newbie and one of my older ones

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=321&pictureid=15032http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=321&pictureid=7451

[Leon]

This 1919 Zee doesn't seem too special....

...until you flip it over.

That's pretty cool......

Here is Hap...


http://luckeycards.com/pt4hogan.jpeg

[joeadcock]

..........................

[ValKehl]

E222s

[itjclarke]

145234145235
145236145238
145237145239
145242145245
145240145241
145232145246

[h2oya311]

Here's a select few of mine:

Bancroft w/ Superior
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1909%20Bancroft_1.jpg

Rube Marquard w/ Indianapolis
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1908%20Marquard.jpg

Tris Speaker w/ Little Rock
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1908%20Speaker.jpg

[Jason]

E222s

Val awesome cards. Thats quite the trifecta!

[Kawika]

Lots of issues, east coast and west, from which to choose . .

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/t2091contentneaseries1/large/T209_Martin.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/07_27%20eBay%20T210-2%20Revelle.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/9DMcD876a.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/vancouverandvictoriaobaks/large/1911%20Obak%20Roche.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/11ZN%20Halla.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/1911%20D310%20Lewis.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/11WP%20Madden1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/exLOT%200484%20T4%20Obak%20Premium%20Schmidt.jpg

Plus a few postcards . .

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/1908%20Richmond%20Colts%20pc1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/1908%20Reading%20BB%20pc.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/ex1909%20Portland%20pc.jpg

[packs]

Here's one of the greatest Minor Leaguers of all time. Buzz Arlett, something like a Babe Ruth of the PCL:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m294/madjams/ArlettZeenut_zps1639cb57.jpg

[auggiedoggy]

T212-3:

[auggiedoggy]

C46:

[sgbernard]

E222s

Beautiful E222s, Val!

[Leon]

Love the E222s.....just wish the other few collectors of them wouldn't run up their prices. How dare they!!

[sgbernard]

Leon, if you got that E222 Otey from Heritage, I was an under bidder. I should have run the price up just a bit more! :p

[ValKehl]

Jason and Seth, thanks for your kind comments. Seth, I was also an under bidder on the Otey card. Although I am basically not a set collector, there are 2 sets that I'd like to complete before I kick the bucket, but most likely won't - the 1925 Holland Creameries and the E222s, which have long fascinated me. Here's the rest of my E222s.
Val

[GehrigFan]

Very rare 1919 Zeenut Paddy Driscoll. Only 3 total cards in SGC/PSA/BVG Pop Reports. Played 13 games for the Cubs in 1917 and then 39 games for the Los Angeles Angels PCL team in 1919. Then went on to play professional football from 1919-1929 and was voted into the NFL Hall of Fame in 1965.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/Manderson9999/Mobile%20Uploads/85a49a6a-7035-431b-bd72-bf2690fa2073_zps0b37d8d4.jpg (http://s274.photobucket.com/user/Manderson9999/media/Mobile%20Uploads/85a49a6a-7035-431b-bd72-bf2690fa2073_zps0b37d8d4.jpg.html)

[seattlerainiers]

1907 St. Marys College PC with Hooper, Hal Chase and Harry Krause, and neat baseball related message on back.
1908 Sacramento, Cal State League RPPC w/Hooper, and player IDs on back.

[joeadcock]

SeattleR....


Cool stuff

[philliesphan]

GehrigFan:

Great 1919 Driscoll.

Quick question. It seems like there is an underprinting in white to the bottom left, denoting a team of Sacro. (for Sacremento) as well as Zeenut Series 1919

Do you know what name it is? Curious if that is a one-off print issue, or if it is on all the (very elusive to find) 1919 Driscoll Zeenut cards

[GehrigFan]

GehrigFan:

Great 1919 Driscoll.

Quick question. It seems like there is an underprinting in white to the bottom left, denoting a team of Sacro. (for Sacremento) as well as Zeenut Series 1919

Do you know what name it is? Curious if that is a one-off print issue, or if it is on all the (very elusive to find) 1919 Driscoll Zeenut cards


Yes, you are correct. Good eye! I noticed it but assumed it was a registration issue, but on close inpection, it does indeed read "SACTO" for the team. I cannot read the player name - looks like it begins with an "M." I have not found even another scan of a Driscoll anywhere to compare it to, so not sure if it is on all of them or not. Is this common for Zeenuts to have underprinting like this?

[Bocabirdman]

Here at work, I have limited scans at my disposal. I need to work on that:)

145370

145371

145372

[Jaybird]

Yes, you are correct. Good eye! I noticed it but assumed it was a registration issue, but on close inpection, it does indeed read "SACTO" for the team. I cannot read the player name - looks like it begins with an "M." I have not found even another scan of a Driscoll anywhere to compare it to, so not sure if it is on all of them or not. Is this common for Zeenuts to have underprinting like this?

It's on my Driscoll as well.

[philliesphan]

It's on my Driscoll as well.

Curious. I wonder if Mark M. knows? I wonder if it is Daniel Murray? I think from the 1919 set, the six Sacremento players with a surname starting with M are McGaffigan, McHenry, McNulty, Middleton and Murray.

[Jaybird]

Curious. I wonder if Mark M. knows? I wonder if it is Daniel Murray? I think from the 1919 set, the six Sacremento players with a surname starting with M are McGaffigan, McHenry, McNulty, Middleton and Murray.

Yeah, it's Murray.

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/jasonleemiller/1919ZeenutDriscoll_zpsa19c7159.jpg

[kdixon]

Zach Wheat with Union a Club of KC

[Leon]

We can't let this thread die yet, guys. Here are some '09 Obaks I have shown before....

[baseballart]

Please ban seattlerainiers from posting further in this thread so the internet does not explode

[bbpostcards]

1903 program from first series in PCL history, Portland v. San Francisco (sorry for the lousy cell phone pic), 1904 Pacific National League pass (it competed with the PCL), Jimmy C. For more, visit http://www.sportingoregon.com (http://www.sportingoregon.com) .

[MMarvelli]

Can't get enough of that minor stuff...


145696

145698

Stuck in Rochester with a Clement's Pie again


145699

Classic pose, great background


145700

The one and only Piggy Paige in profile


145701

From Piggy Paige to Ham Patterson


145703

More Ham, please


145704

Help me out...I still need type 1 yellow and purple, and Type 2 orange


145705

Jimmy Shinn eats Big Eater


145706

Finally picked up this elusive type last month

[brianp-beme]

Was housecleaning and found this scan behind the bedroom dresser...a couple of Obak players with different fronts for each year (1909, 1910, 1911). And in typical Obak fashion, they are pretty darn good looking cards.

Brian

[MartyFromCANADA]

1903 program from first series in PCL history, Portland v. San Francisco (sorry for the lousy cell phone pic), 1904 Pacific National League pass (it competed with the PCL), Jimmy C. For more, visit http://www.sportingoregon.com (http://www.sportingoregon.com) .

Do you own the zeenut Claxton?

[MartyFromCANADA]

1909 Graney - Portland

194131

[MartyFromCANADA]

1912 O'Hara - Toronto

194132

[familytoad]

Oh man, Marty that card is spectacular!

[Jacklitsch]

Nice card Marty!! :cool:

[MartyFromCANADA]

Nice card Marty!! :cool:

Thanks again Steve. Great card. :)

[brewing]

Here's my first nonT206 pre 1920 minor leaguer. Acquired from mybuddyinc.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/12/dfa831b6a2ecec35ed49c83373e5d324.jpg

[Laxcat]

Not sure if the Stovall counts.

[edjs]

My 1913 Oakland Oaks (so far):

[noelbrian55]

Kawika - any chance you're still on here? I'd love to talk to you about one of the cards you posted a picture of on this thread....

Lots of issues, east coast and west, from which to choose . .

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/t2091contentneaseries1/large/T209_Martin.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/07_27%20eBay%20T210-2%20Revelle.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/9DMcD876a.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/vancouverandvictoriaobaks/large/1911%20Obak%20Roche.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/11ZN%20Halla.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/1911%20D310%20Lewis.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/11WP%20Madden1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/exLOT%200484%20T4%20Obak%20Premium%20Schmidt.jpg

Plus a few postcards . .

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/mischidden/recentpickups/large/1908%20Richmond%20Colts%20pc1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/1908%20Reading%20BB%20pc.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/large/ex1909%20Portland%20pc.jpg

[Kawika]

Kawika - any chance you're still on here? I'd love to talk to you about one of the cards you posted a picture of on this thread....
Here occasionally. Just sent you a PM.

[t213]

Great thread, here are a few of mine.

Andy

[Jason Carota]

Nice to see this thread again. Some amazing cards!


http://www.jasoncarota.com/img/vintage/1911_d311_pac_coast_bis.jpg

[t213]

some E99s

Andy

[bocca001]

Early PCL cards from players with connections to Santa Clara University. Something to keep me busy.

[quinnsryche]

Now here's a thread that needed to be resurrected. Love them PCL's!
BTW - anyone have a link to a site that has images of the full Obak runs?

[Section103]

https://0snjyw.by3302.livefilestore.com/y4mbCVcSRSG7a2gEcW3shHgzAEQPN03pLcseYcx0n_KBSJrnhU fUnaGBPn292rqgcmSBKTPdqIK6I-WLkBElrns51zJUPrJO5QAAsvF_NDViHcmW-z5evuC2xwQWJBU04fF_l8tYNn7JchD8W-lzxOZ3qAZ4X2cHuf8jnsSunkVmcOa8ql9--STsnk-8MNDnxYLc0j_PbtVKltMz2TQ0udUug?width=414&height=660&cropmode=none


https://miofua.by3302.livefilestore.com/y4myiLFnF9mvpbCnvmWfYwxm1pMYpyFBoi5RKQgG5ylkA-_IknXNBECYQZEKjSSgEpNjveyrK7kZa42uAsTRK3s2k-smG8MsQp52gOgEpoTF4LZV0UF7I0VJQJS-avARxYr8g4Zq0joPJ2xAjjPLVWFY6f6dQKh-3PCNt5g4HPqTDox7G2ZyQJtRzkf0OBiUnOWm4-ZHPRtZzZpyJ2UFpA4gA?width=472&height=660&cropmode=none


https://miosua.by3302.livefilestore.com/y4mYoWslc1y_V-quEkqEGNuaTEClxpzyCuW_eyK162R9SF0EqSpKM_agaenf29Ha sWVoWQLolT8gbUo8JtYCte2hOVGib1EBRI36Qzj6oN2Z5ElJdZ AbmYFnOUhnlJ733c3fN-CGwl0aFbTf5DJ90HTHtOp2QDvfTzHD9RXP9GyUMGwqpy0Y1ouf 7X0QMpnuJo_Q1OXi7MZtoD5rDWkLmXRqA?width=478&height=660&cropmode=none


Pics are from 1917 Texas A&M baseball team....

[t213]

Just bumping the thread because I'd like to see more of these.
Andy

[GaryPassamonte]

I used to own this one. I guess you could call it a minor league card.

[Jason]

I used to own this one. I guess you could call it a minor league card.

Awesome card! To me nothing beats a pre 1920 Black and White Minor League issue. Great cards evryone my kind of thread:D

[Exhibitman]

One heckuva eye candy thread! My modest contribution:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/dropins/websize/E137%20Zeenuts%201919%20Meusel_%20Bob.JPG
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/dropins/websize/1912%20C46%20McGinnity.jpg

[Cozumeleno]

Ten Million T212 Obak

[Leon]

I used to own this one. I guess you could call it a minor league card.

Love the CA Hess cards.

[oldjudge]

I think this might be the first minor league card set, the 1886 Hancock Clothing Syracuse Stars cards. Here is the Buckley, their catcher.

[oldjudge]

Here is the back of the Buckley card. I like the cards because they are kind of related (big stretch) to the Old Judge set. Goodwin & Company distributed the Old Judge set, Goodwin (different Goodwin) was the photographer for the Hancock cards. Also, both Buckley and Tomney, two of the three known subjects in this set, later appeared in the Old Judge set.

[Jason]

Here is the back of the Buckley card. I like the cards because they are kind of related (big stretch) to the Old Judge set. Goodwin & Company distributed the Old Judge set, Goodwin (different Goodwin) was the photographer for the Hancock cards. Also, both Buckley and Tomney, two of the three known subjects in this set, later appeared in the Old Judge set.

Thats a cool card. I was not aware of the issue and never even thought of what the first minor league card was/could be. Interesting that Phil Tomney is one of the subjects. Do you perhaps have a scan? Thats another Tomney card added to my checklist I will never own:D

[oldjudge]

Jason-Fronts and backs in three known copies:

[mybuddyinc]

HARRY Camnitz ----- ;););)


306015

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=camnit001hen

Fun, fun, Scott :rolleyes:

[clydepepper]

COLUMBUS GA connections only:

306019

306020

306021

306022

[Jason Carota]

I think this might be the first minor league card set, the 1886 Hancock Clothing Syracuse Stars cards. Here is the Buckley, their catcher.

Great card!

[GaryPassamonte]

I really like those cards, Jay. I'm less than 100 miles from Syracuse. Thanks for showing them.

[oldjudge]

Hi Gary! Stars were a solid team.

[Jason]

Jason-Fronts and backs in three known copies:

Thank you for sharing those. I like the name and position being on the reverse of the card. Its a nice change from the regular front printing of most prewar cards. I dont recall seeing another issue from the era with that style of printing of the player information on the back.

[Bliggity]

My favorite prewar set -

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4490/37860863366_da09c3cdba_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ZFCPCj)

[oldjudge]

I can't recall another 19th century issue with player info on the back.

[Leon]

Zs are well represented and here are a few cool poses...in the second collection.

[CooperstownExpert]

Here's a link to Spence Harris's page (http://www.cooperstownexpert.com/player/spence-harris/) on my website.

Harris holds the minor league record for hits, runs, and doubles. His MiLB stats are stunning!

If you get a chance check out the site -- CooperstownExpert.com. It has pages for every HoFer and 200+ non-HoFers.

Cool to see everyone's minor league cards. Thanks for sharing!!

[T206Collector]

I don't think I had Mr. Peckingpaugh when this thread was originally started, but he's a worthy addition!

<img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8142/29118834180_42d788de37_b.jpg" width="621" height="1024" alt="Peckingpaugh_OBAK_SGC_30_AUTO"></a>

[edjs]

I don't think I had Mr. Peckingpaugh when this thread was originally started, but he's a worthy addition!


I thought you were only allowed signed T206s? You need to let me have that Peckinpaugh! Great card, man.

[T206Collector]

I thought you were only allowed signed T206s? You need to let me have that Peckinpaugh! Great card, man.

Ha! No... I collect all pre-1915 signed cards. I try not to discriminate, notwithstanding my collecting focus of signed T206 cards.

[h2oya311]

under-appreciated slugger, Wally Berger:

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/almosthofcollection/websize/1928%20Berger.jpg

[Leon]

Some of these old threads bring back memories of cards from days gone by. Here is a current one.

http://luckeycards.com/pe99melchoir.jpg