T206 - Determining possible subjects with rare back

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[teetwoohsix]

Net54,

To better understand the dynamics I thought I'd start a thread. If one already exists direct me to it...

How are the possible subject number counts determined for rare backs? I've read through The Monster and Inside T206 and might have fallen asleep at the wheel…

For example there are a set number of subjects for Broadleaf 460 then that number is confirmed. How is the subject number before being confirmed (or in-process being confirmed) figured out?

Help me out on this I need it ;)

Hi Brian,

You can visit here for many of your answers: http://t206resource.com/History.html

Search through "Index" and search through "Checklists". Read about the print groups, it will help you understand how some unconfirmed cards are believed to be possible with certain backs. You will also notice under certain backs, they have cards recently confirmed, and cards that are unconfirmed but believed to be a possible combination that may show up.

All confirmations come from collectors input, typically when the card is located and verified. Then, it is listed as confirmed. If you have, or find, a card that shows it hasn't been confirmed on that site, please contact them and they will update the list-which helps all T206 collectors.

Hope that helps-

Sincerely, Clayton

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[tedzan]

Ted,

I was reading one of your threads and think it would be great to use as an example for this question.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125062

"The BROAD LEAF 460 cards are only from the 350/460 series....27 subjects from this series of 61 cards have been confirmed. I expect several more will show up."

How is it calculated there are 61 subjects in the Broad Leaf 460?

"The BROAD LEAF 350 cards depict players in the 350 series, which comprises of 214 subjects. These cards were issued circa..Summer/Fall 1910."

How is it calculated there are 214 subjects in the Broad Leaf 350?

I understand there are X number of cards so-far confirmed for each back. It is
that total subject number being worked on confirming that has me very interesting in finding out how it is determined.

Thanks for shedding light on this for me!


Hi Brian

First, 61 subjects were designated for the 350/460 series, this comes from American Lithographic's printing 66 of the SOVEREIGN 350 guys with "apple green"
backs (as opposed to the "forest green" backs of the other 350 series subjects in the SOVEREIGN run). And, that is how we determined this number.

As a result, three [Joe Doyle, Nichols (bat), Rhoades (throwing)] of these 66 subjects were not subsequently printed with 460 series backs because their ML
careers ended. And, Kleinow (Boston) and Frank Smith (Chicago & Boston) were only printed with 460 backs due to their trades.....hence the number 61.

Furthermore, as you read in my thread regarding the BROAD LEAF 460 (BL 460) subjects, the 27 that have been confirmed are only from the 350/460 series.
No BL 460 subjects were printed from the 460-only series.


Good questions; and, if yoiy have more ?'s, I will try to answer them.


TED Z

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[tedzan]

Start by reading this AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 and 460 thread.......

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124927

The AB 350 (frame). the BL 350. the CYCLE 350. and the DRUM 350 subjects were printed circa Summer 1910 and essentially share the T206 fronts.

I call this the "A-B-C-D" connection......

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh622/tedzan77/ABCDxT206_zps39543005.jpg


TED Z