1933 Goudey Autos on Pawn Stars

[4815162342]

Anybody else watching Pawn Stars? What do you think about the 1933 Goudey autos?

[Sean1125]

Let me get my magnifying glass.

[4815162342]

Let me get my magnifying glass.

Drew to the max!

[chipperhank44]

That's a magnifying glass? Thought it was a tennis racket....

[novakjr]

That's a magnifying glass? Thought it was a tennis racket....

Might as well be a tennis racket. He'll, he'd get the same results looking through a waffle iron.

[veleno45]

I did see Pawn Stars last night. What a brilliant marketing move on PSA's behalf with the product placement. They not only were on the Goudey's slabs but they were on the Marilyn Monroe letter with PSA/DNA. Then they had the star of the show saying how they were the most reputable in the business so the signatures were beyond question real.

I watch Pawn Stars from time to time, but I understand it is staged. How many people, who do not understand it is staged, do you think hit the PSA website yesterday evening during or after the airing? Brilliant marketing on PSA's behalf.

PSA and Pawn Stars have been in bed together since last year, yet this is the first real on air commercial I caught for PSA.

[tschock]

I did see Pawn Stars last night. What a brilliant marketing move on PSA's behalf with the product placement. They not only were on the Goudey's slabs but they were on the Marilyn Monroe letter with PSA/DNA. Then they had the star of the show saying how they were the most reputable in the business so the signatures were beyond question real.

I watch Pawn Stars from time to time, but I understand it is staged. How many people, who do not understand it is staged, do you think hit the PSA website yesterday evening during or after the airing? Brilliant marketing on PSA's behalf.

PSA and Pawn Stars have been in bed together since last year, yet this is the first real on air commercial I caught for PSA.

PSA is actually represented quite a bit on the show, usually as it relates to autograph authentication though. There is a rep who is on there all the time doing the autograph authentication (can't remember his name), so it wasn't the first PSA "commercial" by any means. The show itself (not just the Harrisons) is not really up on Sports related items, which might be why one of the questions' answers regarding Super Bowl III was the Baltimore "Ravens".

All "reality" TV is staged, going back well before MTV's "The Real World", where the "kids" lived in conditions NOTHING like the "real" world. But I enjoy Pawn Stars (and a few others, especially the Vegas based ones) because I have a wide variety of interests and love to see the items that come up, as well as the human nature aspect of peoples' thoughts as to what their things are "worth" when it meets reality.

[tschock]

Anybody else watching Pawn Stars? What do you think about the 1933 Goudey autos?

I don't collect autographs, but I would have thought that the $2300 retail value (23 cards I think, with 3 HOFs) would have been closer to reality than the lower retail value the expert quoted. From what we could see, most of the autos looked pretty strong and didn't seem "shaky", which would lead me to believe they were obtained before the players got too old.

How "common" are autographed 33 Goudeys?

[the 'stache]

Hi Daryl,

I watched both of last night's new episodes just a few hours ago from my DVR, but have already deleted them. So this is all from memory. Please forgive any minor inconsistencies or brain farts on my part. :D

Off the top of my head, the best 3 cards were all Hall of Famers (Bill Herman, Ted Lyons and I forget the other, maybe Sam Rice?). These were appraised at $500 total. The others the appraiser valued individually between $40-60, or $40 to 80. From what I saw, all the signatures were nice and clean. A few cards had some conditional issues (multiple spots of paper loss on at least one back, some curled or creased corners which are pretty commonplace with the '33 set), but overall, it was a really nice collection of 23 cards in total. I think he appraised the total collection at $1,300. Corey initially offered the customer $500. The guy was going to walk out, but Corey then bumped the offer up to $600, which the guy accepted. I thought the offer was quite low. I know the shop has to make a profit, but in my opinion, when an expert is called in to give an appraisal, it is incumbent upon them to provide accurate information based on current market demand. And in this case, that did not happen. Some of the experts seem to undercut current market value in an effort to help the pawn shop negotiate a greater profit. And since one of my best friends is their regular fine art expert on the show, I don't want his reputation to suffer at all as a result of this practice.

I also agree about this relatively new marriage between the shop/show, and PSA/DNA. In last night's episode with the cards and the signed Marilyn Monroe notice of contract termination letter from Twentieth Century Fox, as Chris mentioned, Rick said in no small terms that any signatures certified by PSA/DNA are pretty much unimpeachable. All I will say is that definitely raised an eyebrow here.

Didn't they have another PSA employee that used to appear on the show? Steve Grad is the current PSA rep they call down now, but I could have sworn they used to use somebody else. Or was that just a forensic handwriting analyst that had nothing to do with PSA?

I used to be a pretty big fan of Pawn Stars, because I loved the items that would come into the shop. But ever since the start of this current season (when they changed the theme + show intro), it's become more of a second-rate reality show. I don't care about Chumlee's weight loss, or the Old Man's cholesterol level. I want to see rare pieces, and learn. Last night, the sports memorabilia expert (I forget his name) stated that Sam Byrd, one of the players included in the 23 card collection, was the only man to ever play in a World Series game, and in the PGA Masters Tournament. That's the kind of stuff I like to learn. Only these tidbits are becoming too few and far between for my tastes.

I'm doing a lot more fast forwarding than I ever used to.

[MVSNYC]

"...I'm doing a lot more fast forwarding than I ever used to."

I'm with you Bill, I can watch an entire episode of Pawn Stars in about 4 minutes. I agree with what you said above, I used to watch all 30 minutes (sans commercials) when they would focus more on the pieces that came in and the history behind them, now they spend 17 minutes on Chumlee working a hot dog stand...but still, I tape every new show, and just fast forward to the goods.

[GasHouseGang]

This thread is the perfect place to repost this picture created by Brandon G. over in the autograph section of the board. It always makes me smile.:D

[milkit1]

Did anyone see the commons?

[milkit1]

Im hoping they didnt have any I needed.

[insidethewrapper]

I thought the grading company (PSA) had no idea who submitts the cards to them. I recently saw on a show, Steve Grad in the shop authneticating an item . What's up with this ? I thought they were to be completely objective and not know the submitter !!

[t206blogcom]

I saw the show as well. The third HOFer wasn't Sam Rice, but I can't recall exactly who.

[pete zouras]

HOFers were Travis Jackson, Ted Lyons and Babe Herman. The guy had to have about what he sold the cards for in grading costs.

[the 'stache]

Pete, are you sure on Babe Herman? I thought initially, too, he was one of the three, but changed to Bill Herman when I saw that Babe Herman was not in the HoF. Of course I wouldn't put it past the "expert" to flub which Herman was in the Hall.

[RGold]

It was this card.

http://photos.imageevent.com/rgold/rgoldscollection1933goudey/herman.jpg

Not this card. :D:D:D


http://photos.imageevent.com/rgold/rgoldscollection1933goudey/33gbabeherman84.jpg

[the 'stache]

Thanks, Ronald. I thought so. The ol' eyes are going. :D

[T205 GB]

PSA has been on Hardcore Pawn a lot lately also.

[milkit1]

gee maybe if I go on Pawnstars theyll offer me $30 each for mine
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[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Nice Goudey collection.

[Kawika]

Sean: Those signed Goudeys are amazingly cool.

[milkit1]

Thanks guys :) Been collecting them since 1988. Hi think im up to 182 different signed.

[4815162342]

Sean: Those signed Goudeys are amazingly cool.

+1 Amazing!

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

The players had very nice penmanship.

[footlong]

that's a beautiful group of signed cards.

[Deertick]

Was anyone else screaming at the TV when the guy in effect sold 20 signed cards for $100?? Right before, he refused an offer of $500 for the 'big 3'. Dope.

[7nohitter]

Wish I could buy all those cards for $600!!!

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I just watched this on my DVR and boy did that guy get screwed. However, it seems like his own fault. He should checked out eBay or something before he went to the shop.

[milkit1]

I used to buy them for far less then that :D I remember buying my Pie Traynor for $30 lol I got about 30 different players through the mail and probably only paid $5 per card. Those were the days

[insidethewrapper]

This was just free advertising for PSA. Nobody would pay and get their 23 autographed cards authnicated and then sell for $600. What would be the cost to get these reviewed at PSA ?

[bender07]

This was just free advertising for PSA. Nobody would pay and get their 23 autographed cards authnicated and then sell for $600. What would be the cost to get these reviewed at PSA ?

Agreed. No way that was an actual transaction. Made for TV.

[Deertick]

This was just free advertising for PSA. Nobody would pay and get their 23 autographed cards authnicated and then sell for $600. What would be the cost to get these reviewed at PSA ?

The seller did not pay to have them authenticated. He got them as is. Obviously his cost was a lesser amount. Still, it doesn't make him less of a rube.

[Republicaninmass]

The seller did not pay to have them authenticated. He got them as is. Obviously his cost was a lesser amount. Still, it doesn't make him less of a rube.


What's Rube got to do with this? :p

[Bored5000]

I also used to be a huge fan of Pawn Stars. I still watch the show, but the show does seem to have slid downhill in recent times. The shilling for advertisers just seems so overt anymore -- like when the four main characters all develop a craving for a "delicious Subway breakfast sandwich" or a Subway foot-long sub.

The whole Drew Max autograph authenticating nonsense on the show also lessened my interest when it was shown on here that some of the sports items on the show aren't exactly what is claimed.