Identification help please - Everlast?

[wondo]

I picked up a small lot of "photos" on ebay this week and I can't identify them. They measure 5" x 7 1/16 and are glossy - definitely from 30s-40s. I found the Everlast section in Adam's book, and these seem to fit except that the size is wrong and only one of the five (Schmelling) has the distinctive name scripting. I scanned the Schmelling and the Johnson below. The other boxers are Pedro Montanez, Henry Armstrong, Abe Attell, and Tommy Farr. Any information is appreciated - thanks!

[Exhibitman]

Schmeling definitely. Johnson does not appear to be. All of the Everlast pieces feature the Everlast label somewhere in there, either stripped in or plainly visible on the fighter's gloves or trunks. No logo, most likely not an Everlast piece. You can see it on Schmeling's glove where the logo has been inserted into the image. Here is an example where the image is not altered but the logos are visible:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpremiums/websize/1930s%20Everlast%20Braddock.jpg

Here is an advert from an Everlast annual [1930] offering photos for sale. Johnson is not listed. Ironically, the image in the ad doesn't have the logo or the name plate/ID, but every one of these I've been able to ID as an Everlast piece has had both elements.

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpremiums/websize/1930%20Everlast%20Premiums%20ad.jpg

I'd really like to see the others.

[wondo]

Here's the Ebay listing:

Let me know any ideas.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Collectible-Reproduced-Photographs-BOXING-GREATS-Max-Schmeling-others-/310869214207?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=OIV18XwAYeblXbAcxuVby5mxeX0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

There is no doubt in my mind that these pix are all the same origin and vintage. Would you like for me to send these to you, Adam?

[D. Bergin]

Likely send-aways of some sort. Just about every boxing related publication of that time period had a section to order photos of past and present boxers out of. Most of the photos coming from multiple different sources unrelated to the publication itself.

All of those are pretty common poses except the Montanez and perhaps the Attell.

Nice score for the price though. The word "reproduction" probably drove plenty of clicks away from the auction. They are technically reproductions I guess, but they do seem vintage to the mid-1930's or so.

[Exhibitman]

I agree with Dave as to age and likely origins; I have items issued from several boxing publications. Whether to classify them as photos or premiums is the nit I have yet to competently pick. Here's a Tommy Gibbons from The Boxing Blade:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingphotographsandephemera/large/Photo%20Gibbons.JPG

Here is one of those impossible to ID ones:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpremiums/websize/1930s%20Braddock%20premium.jpg

1969 from the New York Weekly Boxing News:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpremiums/websize/1969%20NYWBN%20Ali.jpg

I'd definitely treat the Schmeling as an Everlast. The reason I am reluctant to characterize items without an Everlast logo as such is that they went to the trouble of adding art to the pics where art wasn't visible. Every one I have cataloged has an Everlast label somewhere...

Don't be fooled by the size. I've found the Everlast art images at various sizes from PC up to 8 x 10. I have some on my site in various sizes. Now, they could have been reprinted but until I have evidence of that I am OK with labeling them as Everlast pieces.

You got a deal regardless of what they are. For a buck a pop you can't go wrong. Every one is a HOFer. Heck, I'd give you two bucks each for them :D